Was the US involvement in the Korean War justifiable? Sure, half the population lives in one of the best countries in the world but half in one of the worst. Wouldn't the whole country have turned out relatively moderately, like China, if the North won?
The country would be united if China didn't get involved and kick Americans out of the north.
Nolan Bailey
You mean, the country would have still been a dictatorship under Kim Il Sung, had the USAnot intervened. The crazy person.
Easton King
We don't really know. Kim Il Sung was a homicidal, genocidal maniac anyways and probably Juche would be formed regardless. The country still would be doomed to a fate like that of North Korea. Also don't tryst the chinks when they start coming and posting ITT. t. Korean
Luke Butler
Similarly to Vietnam, the price paid is regularly considered to be a waste (in terms of the West/UN). However, giving all of Indochina, Southeast Asia, Korea, and possibly eventually Japan to the China/USSR political and war machine might have been a HUGE mistake. Hindsight is yet undetermined on this one it seems.
They spend almost nothing on social services. One can assume this is because of their staunch stance against anything seen as socialist.
Hunter Taylor
>Similarly to Vietnam, the price paid is regularly considered to be a waste
By who?
Brody Perry
By the West I says. The UN nations involved generally think Korea was a lot paid for little gain and the same with Vietnam... BUT the resistance put against the communists might have ultimately prevented the entire continent from going Red. Imagine if China had established its own vast USSR type thing throughout all of Asia...
Aiden Rivera
too bad the allied forces never invaded the north like they did in korea.
Hunter Jenkins
indeed
Gavin Edwards
I mean, do you have any polls or whatever for that?
I'm pretty sure most people regard it as a victory.
Josiah Hill
I'm Mearcan and a product of the Mearcan education system I've always heard Korea regarded as a draw. That is, when people aren't discussing the ~55,000 dead Americans on a war that had no exacting objectives and was only paused, not finished.
Gabriel Mitchell
>truman wanted to use nukes that discounts the possibility he wanted to hold the 38th parallel to avert escalating the war then
what was he thinking
Daniel Ramirez
Mac wanted to use Nukes. Whoever wrote that slide doesn't into proper grammar.
Ethan Richardson
at least they can eat food
Adrian Sanchez
Wasn't ROK pretty much pure shit until like the late 70s or 80s? As in dirt poor?
DPRK wasn't all that good but they had a fuckton of Soviet aid, no surprise they turned to shit in the 90s. China had long since split from the USSR, and were able to develop on their own. Plus the people running China, barring Mao, weren't always egotistical pseudo-dictators who wanted to set up a family dynasty like the Kim family.
Jackson Nelson
yeah all the other communists got mad when he decided rule was going to get passed down through lineage.
Dylan White
>half the population lives in one of the best countries in the world lol nope. Source: I know quite a few South Koreans.
Being allowed only 1-2 meals a day and given drugs to stay awake is pretty much slavery if such a thing can exist. Yes they were free to leave their job but practically that was impossible. Truly horrific.
Ryder Hall
>wouldn't it be better if the communists had won?
Unless you're talking about the Eastern Front of World War II, and even that is debatable, the answer is always "No".
Anthony Long
The country would be united if the USA didn't get involved and kick Communist Koreans out of the South
Liam Edwards
That's what OP said you semen slurper
Gabriel Smith
>Was the US involvement in the Korean War justifiable?
Absolutely.
Michael Garcia
Had we let it fall we'd have had an enemy country within spitting distance of our foothold in the far Pacific, i.e. Japan.
Isaac Ross
any good books on the korean war i should check out? i know embarrassingly little on the subject
Ryder Moore
Max Hastings
Luke Fisher
It would have led to an eventual yellow Communist Bloc and then humanty's only hope would be that the USSR and USPRC (hyothetical) would obliterate each other
James Martin
Sure it's kinda shitty on certain place. But at least it ain't North Korea.
Honestly, I could justify living anywhere with the argument that it isn't North Korea.
Caleb Moore
Really the US should have practiced stronger interventionalism with China when it was still up in the air. Just imagine what things would have been like with a strong capitalist allied China immediately post-WWII. True, they might have siphoned away some of that sweet economic control but they would probably also have gotten into some shit with the USSR and again, would have been the primary target in a possible war due to proximity. Ninjas can't nuke you if they're too worried about nuking chinks.
Benjamin Williams
What about Eritrea?
Julian Sanders
Proxy war, Soviet vs USA
Thank fuck capitalism won.
Ryan Jones
> In its 2014 Press Freedom Index, Reporters Without Borders ranked the media environment in Eritrea at the very bottom of a list of 178 countries, just below totalitarian North Korea. Fuck.
If I ever manage to surpass the age of 16 years old in relatively good shapes, I would try to leave the place in favour of a quieter part of Ethiopia. Would try to find a nice little village and live as a farmer until I get shot and raped by bandits.
Owen Kelly
One of my favorite Korean War stories is how we realized there weren't Koreans in the enemy Migs.
See, every Russian pilot was given a little cheat sheet of Korean radio codes to use to try to fool us, but as soon as things started going wrong for them they'd start cursing in Russian over the radio.
Brandon Green
it seems this is pretty much what Mac was thinking. wanted to invade china and put a stop to all the commie bullshit tout de suite but it was too late. things should have been jiggered like you said, after WWII. Instead the Soviet Union started setting up puppet regimes all over and grooming asia to be the same. By 1950 they too had nooks.
Josiah Garcia
And if the Japanese hadn't been defeated.
What's your point?
Benjamin Harris
>Also don't tryst the chinks when they start coming and posting ITT. t. Korean
What? How are we any less reputable than you?
Kevin Wilson
A couple hundred thousand people a year get the same idea.
They're a good portion of the boat people heading for Europe.
Julian Campbell
because u mad
Julian Edwards
>Was the US involvement in the Korean War justifiable? Fuck no.
Caleb Young
How am I mad? I'm a Chinese American for 4 generations now.
Wouldn't we both be about as biased towards our side?
Bentley King
I think the original comment was geared-toward chinese nationals posting revisionist state-sanctioned versions of history (which would probably be the version not accepted as truth anywhere else on the planet)
you sir, are obviously not a part of that bubble
and yeah, i get what you're saying though
Caleb Morales
ends do not justify means, they ways in which the countries turned out is irrelevant
Aiden Campbell
You should chill out and stop being scared of every percieved boogeyman.
There's no "official state-sanctioned Chinese view of the Korean War."
It's literally, America's forces attacked Chinese forces at the Yalu after defeating a Chinese ally. China responded by forcing America out of North Korea, but failed to completely defeat them.
That's exactly what the State Media Channel said in its recent Korean War documentary.
The Chinese government is generally pro-South Korean, at least in State Media towards the average Chinese person like me. Who knows what they do behind the scenes.
Joseph Williams
>the mad man
Isaac Ramirez
>Bitching about people not accepting American propaganda
Brainwashed pleb right here
Kevin Collins
You mean if mcarthur didn't went full "lol chinese, what could they do to anyway? amirite?".
Daniel Foster
>Was the US involvement in the Korean War justifiable? >Was the assistance of an ally in a war that broke predetermined treaty borders thus making the intervention well within the stance of Truman Doctrine justified? This one of the stupidest fucking threads I have ever seen on this board. You commie apologists need to fuck off back to Veeky Forums or plebbit or whatever shithole you faggots came from.
Camden Green
That slide is historically inaccurate.
Adam Evans
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Cooper Bennett
corruption lover
Luke Moore
>commie calling anyone else corrupt Lol
Samuel Jenkins
Hospitals in Korea are easily affordable (as in, basically free) to anyone thanks to a mandatory national health insurance scheme. Your leftist/jap tricks won't work here. t. Literally engaged to a Korean nurse so I know their healthcare system.