/evn/ - Nothing Found edition

Dead at 30? Really?

Discussion about the making or playing of English Language Visual Novels, save for the ones from /ksg/, or games released originally in Japanese.

Do you have a question about a Japanese visual novel or a translation of it?
/vn/ is ready to answer it.

>Developer Resources, Getting Started:
pastebin.com/7LsCvtq3

>Recommended Reading:
vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-en.tagspoil-0;o=d;s=rating
pastebin.com/zGVSpH0B

For Developers. Huge collection of guides on everything:
meganelover.com/post/122965940223/visual-novel-creation-masterlist

Ren'Py Download:
renpy.org/

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lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=38212
kickstarter.com/projects/2119676637/four-horsemen
nasoyon.tumblr.com/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Last thread never got off to a strong start. We struggle on new threads sometimes to pick up a good starting audience who'll sit around and keep refreshing.

Pity, though, I thought the KICKSTARTER DRAMA might have caught more interest

tfw evn is so ded not even delicious drama can save it

I just got out of bed but I'm considering going back.

What are the main places for getting exposure for my VN among potential customers?
Fuwa? Reddit? Something esle?

>Drama
How about "Entangled. A story about scam through internet." ?
lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=38212

There's not really much story available there, though. THere's one post hinting at drama. That's not enough for popcorn

here

We need to lure info out somehow

There's plenty of room for popcorn if you forget the drama part and look at what a terrible recruitment post it is, though. It's extremely poorly written (how do you english that badly), and then full of how they want ONLY THE BEST PEOPLE, NO TIME-WASTERS, and of course only the best people who don't want to be paid because PASSION. It's totally not a scam they're going to make a great game, they just need a writer and some artists because they currently have... voice actresses?

tumblr

Really?

You'll get pretty much ignored on Reddit, unless you try some sort of clickbait title.

Fuwa is okay, some people will be willing to take a look at your project, but don't expect JVN players to give a care either.

It also depends a lot on if your game is still a concept, in development, or already released.

Anyway, advertising in communities is a long time investment, if you only go there to pop a thread and let it rot, you might as well dedicate this time to do something more productive.

What kickstarter drama?

pls elaborate, I missed the last thread because no one posted a link in the old one and the catalog is fucked up on mobile

> this again

come on, we told you last time.

When was the last time? It's the first time I'm asking this question, but if it already has been, I'd gladly read the answers.

oh, ok. Last thread someone asked about marketing.

The answer is "everywhere". If the idea is not annoying and you can do it - go ahead. You don't know if the one person that reads it on reddit will go crazy about it and tell all their friends, for example.

Well, certain free games get a lot of notes on tumblr posts if they hit the right fandoms, and there are some well-followed otome blogs.

If you're making some kind of horrible rape porn you could always try to troll them into giving you publicity instead.

I can tell you that ML's publicity has been 50% various game sites and 50% tumblr.

>horrible rape porn
But it isn't rape if they both enjoy it!

Here's hoping the artist I contacted about a commission will say yes. Their art is so delicious.

I see people with a hateboner for No One But You are still trying to insist it isn't even worth the $5 on sale.

C'mon, one shit route and some lacking polish, sure it's not worth $20 but it's worth at least a sandwich.

its worth about tree fitty

What artist?

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So the whole "drama" was about scvn probably not making it? Way to make it sound important fampaitachi.

Actually no, I was talking about the lemmasoft thing but being intentionally melodramatic.

It's only kickstarter drama in that they're another group that's all 'We won't pay you until we finish a game and then run a kickstarter and then maybe we can split profits'

Where are the best places to pick up desperate artists?

ah so it's about that entangled bullshit, all right

bars

Nice try, poacher.

No way! Do I really look like a poacher?

I'm just yanking yer chain, user.

Everyone is suspect

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Is this for real?

It's from someone's kickstarter

How much money do they have at the moment?
Is the kickstarter for better art?

>$10,646
I DONT WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET ANYMORE
kickstarter.com/projects/2119676637/four-horsemen

"Our sincere thanks, and that warm fuzzy feeling you get from knowing you helped people understand what it's like to be an immigrant."

>10,000 dollerydoos already pledged for a sob story about immigrants

'better art' is subjective, user

every "politically savvy" trans-hispanic tumblrite has got to back this. If they don't, they'll be ostracized by their shitty peers. Because kill whitey or something.

you say that, but most of the time it really doesn't work that way

then how does it work?

Can change my planet or something ? I don't want to be here anymore.

how do they personally raise their money? i don't know, but either the developer is experienced or has contacts who are, as I heard about it through gamedev circles, not evn circles

how does 'buy my social justice' game usually work? to the sound of chirping crickets. just saying you've made a game and it's going to be soooo inclusive does not bring gold raining out of the woodwork

There's a really simple and straightforward way for you to accomplish that goal, user.

Blow everything up? I'm in.

Build spaceship and fly away ?
Shit is not simple.

>Your protagonists sound like real teenagers, not what adults want teenagers to sound like.
>(shut up bro it was just that one time and also that other time and the time after that)

I'm starting to use Renpy but I'm kinda lost, I do understand the basics of defining files and characters to use

That's why I dowloaded a random game whose original creator was kind enough to release the source code.
Problem is, I don't know how to open it with my renpy client.

I want to study it's code and maybe get some bits from it to use as base for my test project

Is that what they think teenagers sound like? Tumblrites? I know I didn't sound like that when I was a teen.

>Is that what they think teenagers sound like? Tumblrites?
who do you think tumblrites are, university professors?
>I know I didn't sound like that when I was a teen.
and now you're an irrelevant old fart

I certainly don't think they're teenagers.

Some are at least.

I don't know. I object to the 'real teenagers' mythology that I sometimes hear, because there's no one way for teenagers to talk and behave. I roll my eyes the same way I do when someone talks about how unlike most VNs, HuniePop has believable, non-stereotyped characters.

Do you think anyone's serious when they say that?

Who knows?

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this is even worse than people copying animu dialogues, who the fuck thinks"realistic" speech has a place in an unvoiced text based game, it's 99% unreadable bullshit that will look retarded in 2 years time.

>your choice of strategy, not what items you get or quests you complete, drives the story.
But... aren't those a part of a strategy? Getting resources and accomplishing certain tasks?

>they accepted
>didn't charge extra for being a commercial project
THANK YOU BASED JEBUS

what
artist

so we all agree that this is going to crash and burn, right?

Do you think I would be able to drum up more interest in my game's story if I hired a Katawa Shoujo dev to write one of the routes?

if you don't mind your game being known as "the next thing by the ks people".

Wouldn't that guarantee a very large audience anyway?

I don't really think it's all that bad but I wonder what kind of people are able to type the words "exciting microagression system" unironically.

Not necessarily. Is it for free?

A lot of people liked We Know The Devil

I haven't decided on pricing yet. Free isn't off the table.

nasoyon.tumblr.com/

I don't believe it! I was thinking of her for my VN just the other day!

Oh, well they have to wait till the weekend is over till they're able to start on my commission, so I don't know if they'd accept another at this point.

It's okay, I pre-emptively rejected her because I didn't think her style fit. Maybe I'll revisit the idea in the future, but this time you were the one to harvest from the morphogenetic field.

Just out of interest, how do you know that artist is a she?

I know her.

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Pretty cute art, bookmarked for potential future projects. Thanks, user.

What kind of commission is it for? A single CG?

Yup.

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Saw this. It's cute.
Now I have a question:
Who the fuck would play it ?
Unless she will fart on cake

that's a very specific fetish you have there son

But the question remains the same.
Would you (for example), ever play this game ?
What is the point of wasting time & resources for a such thing ?

>Would you (for example), ever play this game ?

Ever? Depends on how bored I am and if someone specifically asked me to I guess.

But I don't play most things that come out, even if they're free, so that's no different than any other. Why is this one particularly 'no one would play it' to you?

>What is the point of wasting time & resources for a such thing ?

Practice?

I personally wouldn't play it, but I think people should create what they want. You never know what ends up being a hit, for any weird reason.

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c'mon lads, keep up

Why filter.

Why not?

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Does anyone have experience licensing classical music recordings for their games? How much did it cost you, and what were the sustaining agreements?

That's an insult to the name Beatrice.

I just get it from stock sites, many classical pieces are easy to find for cheap one-off prices with no complicated agreements necessary

Are you trying to get a particular recording that isn't normally meant for such use?

It's absolute heresy.
A particular recording of Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony.

Yeah, I don't know, a very specific recording isn't something I've ever dealt with. You might have to contact the label or something.

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