Last thread never got off to a strong start. We struggle on new threads sometimes to pick up a good starting audience who'll sit around and keep refreshing.
Pity, though, I thought the KICKSTARTER DRAMA might have caught more interest
Jaxson Kelly
tfw evn is so ded not even delicious drama can save it
Jose Adams
I just got out of bed but I'm considering going back.
Levi Cruz
What are the main places for getting exposure for my VN among potential customers? Fuwa? Reddit? Something esle?
There's not really much story available there, though. THere's one post hinting at drama. That's not enough for popcorn
Jayden Jackson
here
Luis Taylor
We need to lure info out somehow
Evan Martin
There's plenty of room for popcorn if you forget the drama part and look at what a terrible recruitment post it is, though. It's extremely poorly written (how do you english that badly), and then full of how they want ONLY THE BEST PEOPLE, NO TIME-WASTERS, and of course only the best people who don't want to be paid because PASSION. It's totally not a scam they're going to make a great game, they just need a writer and some artists because they currently have... voice actresses?
Carter Lee
tumblr
Tyler Myers
Really?
Henry Myers
You'll get pretty much ignored on Reddit, unless you try some sort of clickbait title.
Fuwa is okay, some people will be willing to take a look at your project, but don't expect JVN players to give a care either.
It also depends a lot on if your game is still a concept, in development, or already released.
Anyway, advertising in communities is a long time investment, if you only go there to pop a thread and let it rot, you might as well dedicate this time to do something more productive.
Benjamin Phillips
What kickstarter drama?
Joseph Ramirez
pls elaborate, I missed the last thread because no one posted a link in the old one and the catalog is fucked up on mobile
Jayden Torres
> this again
come on, we told you last time.
Sebastian Scott
When was the last time? It's the first time I'm asking this question, but if it already has been, I'd gladly read the answers.
Luis Nguyen
oh, ok. Last thread someone asked about marketing.
The answer is "everywhere". If the idea is not annoying and you can do it - go ahead. You don't know if the one person that reads it on reddit will go crazy about it and tell all their friends, for example.
Benjamin Young
Well, certain free games get a lot of notes on tumblr posts if they hit the right fandoms, and there are some well-followed otome blogs.
If you're making some kind of horrible rape porn you could always try to troll them into giving you publicity instead.
Christopher Lopez
I can tell you that ML's publicity has been 50% various game sites and 50% tumblr.
Brody Cruz
>horrible rape porn But it isn't rape if they both enjoy it!
Jeremiah Stewart
Here's hoping the artist I contacted about a commission will say yes. Their art is so delicious.
Jace Gomez
I see people with a hateboner for No One But You are still trying to insist it isn't even worth the $5 on sale.
C'mon, one shit route and some lacking polish, sure it's not worth $20 but it's worth at least a sandwich.
Evan Howard
its worth about tree fitty
Robert Thompson
What artist?
Liam Lee
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Lucas Wilson
So the whole "drama" was about scvn probably not making it? Way to make it sound important fampaitachi.
Aiden Rivera
Actually no, I was talking about the lemmasoft thing but being intentionally melodramatic.
It's only kickstarter drama in that they're another group that's all 'We won't pay you until we finish a game and then run a kickstarter and then maybe we can split profits'
Jose Lewis
Where are the best places to pick up desperate artists?
Jayden Hall
ah so it's about that entangled bullshit, all right
Carson Brown
bars
Colton Jones
Nice try, poacher.
Carson Ward
No way! Do I really look like a poacher?
Levi Sanders
I'm just yanking yer chain, user.
Easton Cox
Everyone is suspect
Isaiah Murphy
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Andrew Murphy
Is this for real?
Jose Gomez
It's from someone's kickstarter
Owen Williams
How much money do they have at the moment? Is the kickstarter for better art?
"Our sincere thanks, and that warm fuzzy feeling you get from knowing you helped people understand what it's like to be an immigrant."
Grayson Nelson
>10,000 dollerydoos already pledged for a sob story about immigrants
Joseph Foster
'better art' is subjective, user
Jose Watson
every "politically savvy" trans-hispanic tumblrite has got to back this. If they don't, they'll be ostracized by their shitty peers. Because kill whitey or something.
Luis Perez
you say that, but most of the time it really doesn't work that way
Gabriel Ward
then how does it work?
Luis Evans
Can change my planet or something ? I don't want to be here anymore.
William Green
how do they personally raise their money? i don't know, but either the developer is experienced or has contacts who are, as I heard about it through gamedev circles, not evn circles
how does 'buy my social justice' game usually work? to the sound of chirping crickets. just saying you've made a game and it's going to be soooo inclusive does not bring gold raining out of the woodwork
Aaron Cox
There's a really simple and straightforward way for you to accomplish that goal, user.
Parker Turner
Blow everything up? I'm in.
Ethan Lopez
Build spaceship and fly away ? Shit is not simple.
Ryder Martin
>Your protagonists sound like real teenagers, not what adults want teenagers to sound like. >(shut up bro it was just that one time and also that other time and the time after that)
Evan White
I'm starting to use Renpy but I'm kinda lost, I do understand the basics of defining files and characters to use
That's why I dowloaded a random game whose original creator was kind enough to release the source code. Problem is, I don't know how to open it with my renpy client.
I want to study it's code and maybe get some bits from it to use as base for my test project
Jacob Jackson
Is that what they think teenagers sound like? Tumblrites? I know I didn't sound like that when I was a teen.
Cooper Gonzalez
>Is that what they think teenagers sound like? Tumblrites? who do you think tumblrites are, university professors? >I know I didn't sound like that when I was a teen. and now you're an irrelevant old fart
Christopher Hernandez
I certainly don't think they're teenagers.
Gavin Kelly
Some are at least.
I don't know. I object to the 'real teenagers' mythology that I sometimes hear, because there's no one way for teenagers to talk and behave. I roll my eyes the same way I do when someone talks about how unlike most VNs, HuniePop has believable, non-stereotyped characters.
Carson Nguyen
Do you think anyone's serious when they say that?
Asher Stewart
Who knows?
Nathaniel Rodriguez
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John Jones
this is even worse than people copying animu dialogues, who the fuck thinks"realistic" speech has a place in an unvoiced text based game, it's 99% unreadable bullshit that will look retarded in 2 years time.
Hunter Bell
>your choice of strategy, not what items you get or quests you complete, drives the story. But... aren't those a part of a strategy? Getting resources and accomplishing certain tasks?
Ethan Morris
>they accepted >didn't charge extra for being a commercial project THANK YOU BASED JEBUS
Owen Bell
what artist
Benjamin Nelson
so we all agree that this is going to crash and burn, right?
Xavier Butler
Do you think I would be able to drum up more interest in my game's story if I hired a Katawa Shoujo dev to write one of the routes?
Adrian Lopez
if you don't mind your game being known as "the next thing by the ks people".
Caleb Long
Wouldn't that guarantee a very large audience anyway?
Nicholas Anderson
I don't really think it's all that bad but I wonder what kind of people are able to type the words "exciting microagression system" unironically.
Grayson Anderson
Not necessarily. Is it for free?
Oliver Sanders
A lot of people liked We Know The Devil
Ryder Clark
I haven't decided on pricing yet. Free isn't off the table.
I don't believe it! I was thinking of her for my VN just the other day!
Eli Bailey
Oh, well they have to wait till the weekend is over till they're able to start on my commission, so I don't know if they'd accept another at this point.
Wyatt Martin
It's okay, I pre-emptively rejected her because I didn't think her style fit. Maybe I'll revisit the idea in the future, but this time you were the one to harvest from the morphogenetic field.
Christopher Stewart
Just out of interest, how do you know that artist is a she?
Ayden Walker
I know her.
Jaxon Reyes
page10
Brody Barnes
Pretty cute art, bookmarked for potential future projects. Thanks, user.
Owen Nelson
What kind of commission is it for? A single CG?
Blake Reed
Yup.
Joshua Thomas
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Julian Johnson
Saw this. It's cute. Now I have a question: Who the fuck would play it ? Unless she will fart on cake
Jose Rivera
that's a very specific fetish you have there son
Eli Harris
But the question remains the same. Would you (for example), ever play this game ? What is the point of wasting time & resources for a such thing ?
Jayden Russell
>Would you (for example), ever play this game ?
Ever? Depends on how bored I am and if someone specifically asked me to I guess.
But I don't play most things that come out, even if they're free, so that's no different than any other. Why is this one particularly 'no one would play it' to you?
>What is the point of wasting time & resources for a such thing ?
Practice?
Isaac Hall
I personally wouldn't play it, but I think people should create what they want. You never know what ends up being a hit, for any weird reason.
Brody Reyes
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Juan Murphy
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Lincoln Perry
c'mon lads, keep up
Bentley Adams
Why filter.
Jordan Jones
Why not?
Elijah Reyes
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James Sullivan
Does anyone have experience licensing classical music recordings for their games? How much did it cost you, and what were the sustaining agreements?
Jack Robinson
That's an insult to the name Beatrice.
Charles Young
I just get it from stock sites, many classical pieces are easy to find for cheap one-off prices with no complicated agreements necessary
Are you trying to get a particular recording that isn't normally meant for such use?
Wyatt Gonzalez
It's absolute heresy. A particular recording of Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony.
Adrian Taylor
Yeah, I don't know, a very specific recording isn't something I've ever dealt with. You might have to contact the label or something.