Any recommendations on college majors?

Did you actually read what was written? Rigour is not enforced in those fields, so you can learn the material or not and it doesn't matter until you get out.

It's all fluff

Get a degree in Accounting. Specialize into something you actually find interesting. Rake in dosh.

computer science / entrepreneurship

good luck user

I had to take some anti-marxist classes, and I think it was great. I seriously learned that black people commit the majority of the crimes, and that it's the white mans fault.

Real Answer here.

Most STEM will be fine as long as there is industry in your country or whatever. No point in getting an aerospace engineering degree if your country doesn't make planes.

Any Engineering (granted the industry is there)
Math
Stats
Actuarial
CS

^Good STEM (I count actuarial as STEM)

Accounting (realistic 9-6 steady pay and can become rich later in life when you make partner)
Finance (Alot of kids want to make it to wall street so they do finance, differentiate yourself by double majoing in finance + a STEM and you will be extremely useful as your math and/or programming abilities will be amazing in finance)
Economics (Same thing as finance)

^Good business majors

All the medicines including psych if you can get in to honours (become a real psychologist) and obviously have a passion for the material/job

Humanities...kill yourself. Nobody will ever fucking hire you.

I can appreciate 1984 and Brave New World in my own time,but it will not put food on my plate. I can do that shit for a hobby.

largely dependent on what kind of school you attend. if you're not at a top school, don't bother majoring in some bullshit humanities or liberal arts. hell, even people at top schools with these majors are having trouble finding decent jobs, so I wouldn't recommend it either

let's say you go to some average state university. your best route would be STEM or accounting. you should be able to secure a decent job assuming you aren't totally retarded. a lot of college kids are slowly realizing this and getting smarter about what they major in. those who don't are usually out of luck and working some shitty job

Finance.

I did an economics undergrad and masters and ended up just going to get a finance PhD anyways.

More money in finance and it is objectively easier than economics as well.

Anything with mathematics & critical reasoning.

I did Economics & Mathematics double major and now I'm 46 and own 1/3 of a S-corporation which earned 800K last year. I don't even work there anymore.

Half of my income goes into index funds. I'm a NEET/retired now, but will probably start a new business soon.

Agreed on the mathematics. If OP can find a way to add a double major with mathematics or statistics (maybe even econometrics) then that would set him up for life.

MBA or MF?

Is there any reason to go to a college at all besides "connections"? it seems like a dying thing to me. Shouldn't you get the same results doing the right reading and doing work at the same level college forces you to?

Depends how much you pay imo. I wouldn't go back unless it was like 30-40K total cost of attendence these days.

Should I bother doing gen ed (free, cause I'm a poorfag) or should I just head to the Union Hall and see what's in demand trade wise?

Gen ed is useless.

Go to trade school.

If you have a cynical view of education, I would approach education as a way to gain a qualification that you can't without.e.g. Engineering, psychologist, actuary, doctor, nurse, accountant....things where you need the degree to become X

Want to shed some light on that? I thought about going deeper into Economics if the Accounting world got a bit too dull. I know that undergrad Economics is a complete joke to what it is in grad school but what in particular makes Finance Ph. D easier?

Alright, what are some in demand trades? I'm thinking welding, plumbing, or going to college for Geography Analysis. I've got nepotism for both trades and GA.

What about "The Renewable Materials degree, with the Marketing & Management (M&M) option, provides students with the skills to manage organizations or devise new marketing strategies to compete in the global renewable materials industry."

Like replace wood with hemp or whatever

Do you guys think it would be crazy to go directly into Cyber Security/Network Sec as a degree? Should I just do CS? After the Hillarys emails thing I am thinking its going to boom huge.

I'm not completely positive but I think Cyber Security/Network Security is openly taught through a few programs like IT, CS, IS, etc. That may make a bit difficult in the job market if they are just asking for CS/IT/IS people who specialize in that kind of work. As a degree it seems way too specialized that you could fall back on a different job if it falls down the shitter.

I don't think it would be crazy at all.

I know nothing about the industry though, but, it sounds good. Any tech career you take will be fine, maybe aside from pure programming because outsourcing. If you are good at programming you won't have an issue, it's just if you're shit they may as well hire Pajeet.

I was thinking this as well, I'm in CompE and they teach this as a semi elective (Cyber security is an option out of 3 classes I have to take).

Look at your local uni or whereever you can go and see if they offer it as a major or it's heavily focused on in related degrees like CS etc.

I think IT would be good for you. IT people are a jack of all trades

Networking major/cyber sec minor here. My school offers cyber security as a major.

You're not crazy at all. But you do need to be autisticly good at it to make the big bucks. That means being really good talking to people, excellent programmer and excellent problem solver. It is very competative. I'm only minoring in cyber security because I only need to take 4 extra classes to get the minor.

Just straight normal networking is more stable, middle of the road pay with chances for high pay later on for less specialized, less intensive work. Cyber security is higher pay but much more competitive and difficult of a job.

man, I finished a degree in philosophy now I'm doing another degree in math. dad wants me to be a doctor. I don't know what I want. Fucking, in Ontario it's basically impossible to get into medical school (my 3.94 might not be enough. it's fuckery).

im accounting and finance double major graduating this december with 150 credits and no student loan debt all within 4 years

did i do college right?

Might not be for you then. Medical is all retention (as is school). I wanted to be a doctor when I was younger, that was my plan since elementary school. As much as I enjoy the concept, I don't believe I could manage a decade of school and a decade of debt. My message is do what you want to do and only of it's realistic.

im in it.
it is not that cool to be honest.

between classes, lab and studying i average some 65-70 hrs per week.

id rather study CS and get a good paying job and live my life, instead of giving up my 20s...

if you dont know what to do, do what you can do best.

dont fall for the "do-what-you-like" meme.

and also dont do some social "science" bullshit.

make a list of all of the stem-like thing there are at your college of choice and choose the one that you think you can do best.

you will have hobbies in your free time. studying should be a way to make money and a stable career. none of that "open mind" bullshit.

you can build an open mind and social knowledge by reading books on the weekend if you want, dont go into debt for that shit.

If all you want to do is Network Admin/security type stuff, you're best bet would be to start out getting a 2 year certification in some form of networking/communications stuff (look at things like getting a CCNA). If you find that you want your career to take you further in the R&D side of things you can always go back to school for a BSc or MSc later on.

Yes. Absolutely.

Good combo, safe combo, opportunity for high pay and if not very stable fall back on to accounting career.

I have thought about this before and I agree. If I wasn't so scared about stability in my future I would absolutely go for a major in the humanities. I want to be a better critical thinker, writer, and speaker, but really I want to gain more perspectives and be able relate to more people. Well, I'll be going into an engineering major that will start me off at a high salary at a university that will help me start off at an even higher salary.

OP here

I'm not into computer science that much..

I'm a political science major and working towards being a lawyer someday.
I was told by an advisor that I need to double major.
I was thinking of adding finance or accounting.
thoughts?

>business and finance

asking for college major. that's for other boards

>what is cost benefit analysis of getting each degree, post grad vs graduate degree, value of degrees based on location (viticulture degree in Ohio vs California), applicability of degrees (viticulture vs CS or EE), etc.
>what is the inevitable discussion about personal finances in regards to obtaining a degree

I get why you would make this post, but consider something in the abstract sense besides your dank memes for once

If you are going to do law I recommend finance. They hire law+finance combos in IB teams and other banking roles

You still need a 4.0+ 20 extra curriculars but you can defs get a job in finance with a law+finance. no idea about getting a lawyerman job.

opinions, advice, memes, pitfalls about studying architecture? i don't want to be in debt but it's the only thing i feel driven to succeed at.

Alot of people do architecture. You will have lots of competition, but, if you are truly passionate about it and get solid grades and do work experience you should be fine

Finance+premed or Finance+Engineering
Or Finance+ computer science
Or Engineering+ business
Or engineering + IST
Or econ+ statistics
Or econ+ finance

What ever you do be above a 3.5 and get internships

Thank you for that insane response, I can't truly believe how much this helps me. Yeah, I could see myself sort of knowing how to do things very well, however I have never been a high achiever, my genetics are pretty ass, its not like I can crack open a Calculus 3 book and the numbers magically appear in my brain like I am on that fucking Scorpion show, maybe the competitive side isn't for me, I really had no idea about that aspect so that really helped.

I guess if you think about it you need to be able to beat a bunch of starving hungry Chinese and Russian motherfuckers at hacking, I think I'll go more middle of the road like you were saying, minoring in it but not immediately gunning for a CIA/NSA job.

True gratitude for y'all, respect.

All of these are great combos.

I know plenty of engineers in the banking/financial.

Quite alright friend.

> its not like I can crack open a Calculus 3 book and the numbers magically appear in my brain

These tech degrees are hard and have high drop out rates for a reason. Most kids aren't geniuses or particularly smart. Not being amazing at math is fine. What is not fine is not putting in the hours to understand all the concepts. Math last semester took up about 80% of my study time and it was still the 2nd worst grade I got that semester. I got great marks (4.0) in that semester because I put in the effort.

tldr; If you put in the effort for math...I mean really really crunch out the hours you will get great marks

Good idea just doing a minor in it. Remember to look at the individual class names of each major/bachelors that you are looking at to see if it is for you. Some degrees aren't what you expect.

Thoughts on Finance+Biochemistry double degree?

I don't see the point in the combination.

Yeah, I remember having business calculus, was the hardest I ever worked on a class. I had other classes being joke general education just to get past it with a B-. Its doable, its just far from enjoyable and far from having a life when doing that shit.

Anyone know much about CIS, MIS degrees. We do a lot of work with SAP. Also studying some web development on the side.

study logistics engineering and land a job at a big (not huge) firm. easy money, and the firm wont understand why they hired you or why they even need you. also, it's a fucking easy major

So, the kind of buzz i've been hearing is that Accounting along side MIS/CIS is extremely good at improving your schedule. I'm not exactly sure why, I've taken MIS classes and some of them seem incredibly vague but the idea is that a lot of companies want accountants to be more IT friendly rather than just being the same spreadsheet number crunching guys. A lot of accounting and finance firms have been hiring IT auditors for a while now. Just look at it as Accounting/business classes mixed with IT. So I would say MIS/CIS is getting pretty big now, probably already is.

Yea our dean and department talks about our college grad hiring rates (+85%) and avg starting pay for most positions at 50k+ so I'm pretty excited. We do a bit of accounting too but that is apart of the core business curriculum.

If you're still around can you help tell me your experience with finance. I'm going to be getting my bachelors in Finance and I'm debating whether or not I should move up and get my masters in it or not.

I'm the user you responded to. I just have a different idea because I'm at a cafe.

You're right, undergrad economics is a joke and really doesn't mean much. My experience in grad school with applied econ was more rewarding though. Much more statistics based economics and a lot of econometrics which I've even used for political science studies as well.

>What makes a finance PhD easier
Lower GRE scores to get into the finance programs as opposed to having to get a 169-170 quant to get into a worthwhile economics PhD. That's number one. Number two is all finance is is pretty much applied financial economics, at least that's how I view it. More money in a finance PhD as well as they are more in demand. There are only like 200 finance PhDs created in America per year (so, I've read anyways). Schools have to actively compete against firms for these finance PhDs. I've read like 80% of the PhDs just go to schools while the other go to work on the street or Chicago, etc.

Also, in regards to PhDs, there is a very small premium in wages over a master's degree. According to the Ecommunist:
>Over all subjects, a PhD commands only a 3% premium over a master's degree.
This is just not true for Finance PhDs, as previously stated due to competition between firms and schools as well as such a small supply of them being created every year. High demand, low supply. You do the math. I suggest you talk to your professors or department heads at your school. Part of the reason I went for the finance PhD was that my economics department head who I did my master's with said you make more money with the Finance PhD, it's easier to get into the PhD programs as opposed to an Econ PhD, and the other reasons I mentioned. So, it was a pretty easy choice for me, I got a 3.8 undegrad, a 4.0 in my masters, but my GRE couldn't crack the 90th percentile. This didn't really matter though because I got the 93rd percentile for writing and my high masters/undergrad GPAs. TBC comment too long.

Anyways, if you look at finance PhD program requirements online for various schools you will see that they prefer people with econ/math/statistics backgrounds as opposed to finance undergrads. Finance undergrad is a joke, at least with the former three you have to take mathematics to a certain extent. Anyways, if you have more questions I'll try and get them.

>If you're still around can you help tell me your experience with finance.
None. I did all economics for my undergrad and masters but did a lot of research on stock market stuff for my applied econ masters with a lot of training in econometrics.

>I'm going to be getting my bachelors in Finance and I'm debating whether or not I should move up and get my masters in it or not.
Get the masters. Don't be a pussy. Most schools offer a 4+1 program or something. You can throw darts and find some moron with a bachelors because 1/3 of the US population have a bachelors. About 10% have a graduate degree and only 1.5% have a PhD.

I don't know if I would necessarily do a finance masters as opposed to an MBA. And MBA is one of the top paying degrees period. I just don't see you being any better off with a finance masters. You could however jump into a PhD program to see if you can handle it. Usually after two years of required coursework you get a masters anyways in the PhD programs. But if you're just thinking about going one level above and not to the PhD I would advise an MBA as there is more market value for them. Like I said, there probably just isn't much difference between a finance masters and an undergrad. Or you could just get a bachelors and then go straight for your CFA or something like that.

Just look what is right for you and examine your options. I thought about stopping at my masters, going for an MBA etc but I decided the finance PhD was right for me. Most of all TALK TO YOUR PROFESSORS. They honestly do provide extremely valuable insight.

I appreciate the advice, user.

No prob big nig.

Not him or from USA.

Where i live you HAVE to have 2-4 years of work experience including recommendation to even get accepted in a MBA program also it costs 80k$ for 1 year worth of studies (top business school).
Also while MBA are one of the most profitable degrees there are others like mathematical-con(masters), actuarials and stupid 2 years finance degrees which pay around the same.

Major in Psychology
Minor in Human Sexuality

Explain your year long unemployment gap in your CV to future interviewers

It's the same in the USA. Any worthwhile program you need to have about the same amount of work experience. There are programs, however, at shittier schools that will rush you into the MBA. The only advantage to this is you can complete the MBA then spend the rest of your life working to move up.

You also have to pay for the MBA here. This is another reason why the PhD was so appealing to me. I got my masters entirely paid for with a monthly stipend. It's the same deal with the PhD. Entirely paid for plus a meager stipend with it.

One benefit of going to better schools that have the work experience minimum is that you'll form better connections and have better opportunities to network. If you go to a shit school that rushes students into the MBA, you're missing out on so many connections.

All these things must be weighed, of course.

I still want to know what ya'll think.

It seems like a good thing I can go into the wood industry from the looks of it. Design buildings, manufacture stuff. Dunno. Anyone got smarts?

MBA is what top leaders usually have and the degree is designed to become a leader.

Finance+a real STEM will be better if you want to go in to Finance
If you want to go in to biochemistry (no idea what the fuck jobs have in there) i couldnt imagine finance will help you.

Yeah, your Dean is probably more than correct on that. A lot of MIS/CIS programs are starting to offer CISA certs for IT auditors because of the big 4 demand for them and it seems like everyone else is hiring IT auditors as well. I think its possibly even better than the Accounting/Finance duo at this point.

How about an MSc in Management with a graduate certificate in business analytics?

I want to run Pharmaceutical companies and understand what my scientists are doing

OP Here

Lol made this thread a bit ago, surprised it's still up

>Le double major meme

Seriously unnecessary. Grades and internships are far more important, given that your major is STEM/business/econ.

You're probably right and it is unnecessary, but it also can be an insurance policy in case something shits the bed 10 years from now and you can have a back up that you hopefully can still enter into. For myself it didn't matter because I needed 150 anyways for the CPA.

IF OP wants a solid response, then here:

I was a fan of history, polocy, government, etc. in high school, basically all social sciences. Also good at math. But I wanted a fucking job after graduating, so I didn't major in History or Political science or that bullcrap. I got a BS in Economics, and a Masters of Finance from a good state school. Suck my dick.

So you want a management position, but, you also want to understand the technology/research.

Umm, by just being a researcher and working your way up in a company you will eventually get the opportunity to get in a management role and then the company might pay for you to go get a MBA or some kind of management/business masters.

If you can go to a great top 20 school in the US, then whatever. You'll be most able to profit with business afterwards.

If you don't get in to a top 20 but get into a tier A school, then engineering and computer science. Accounting if there's a B4 company recruiting from that university -- why accounting? Because there's more accounting jobs than finance, and many finance guys are actually accountants.

If you get into a tier B school, then nursing, and accounting. If you're good at math, then an actuary is fine.

If you don't get into that, then dental hygienist, and trade schools for electricians, HVACs, --- not automobile work.

If you're starting with nothing, you can learn quite a bit from working in small businesses where you can learn a bit of everything, starting from customer service, and then eventually sales. If you're good in sales, then you're pretty much set for any company. Stock brokers are sales.

A bad customer service job is where you're stuck in a cubicle, and forced to read the same script every single day. Vary narrowed in and there is no promotion scale.

How bad of an idea is studying marketing?

An absolutely horrendous idea.

Terrible.

This guy knows that's up.

I start my sys admin course in September. There's a lot of people around here who do it, and my step dad who makes good money and dicks around most of the day because you're not doing anything unless shit hits the fan. That's an option for you.

Business + Comp Sci

You'll fucking get any job on the market.

source: Been looking for job for past year

well, did you get one user?

Did you not get an internship?

more majors is the best major

just keep adding shit to the arsenal

fake it til you make it

Any thoughts on information systems?

I had a debate with my sociology teacher over weather gentrification was a good or bad thing.

Boiled down to her saying that it's dysfunctional because then poor people can't afford to live where they want to.

Blew my fuckin mind. I was too much of a sperg to point out that although i want a porsche and can't afford one yet, it's not a significant problem, but it is a dysfunction by her standards. Fuck sociology 101.

Looking for this, in the position to go to college now with previous A levels of English lang, Computing and ICT but I have asbergers/ADD and can't do maths and logic well to the point where I'm quick at it, so was thinking about going for a more practical route.

School tier list where?

>tfw going to number one finance school in your country but your country isn't that great

>colleges.startclass.com/
Here you go friend.

It's not about how your country is doing its about how the other people who went to your school for finance are doing.

Is a "Management PhD majoring in finance" just a Finance PhD?

When will you idiots on Veeky Forums not realize that your school you go to hardly fucking matters for accounting and finance. A bachelors degree is a bachelors degree no matter where you go. The only thing that matters is your masters or getting your CFA or CPA or equivalent in your country, those are both even more prestigious than getting a masters and if you do manage to get your masters then school hardly matters as well. Your school choice only fucking matters if you got top a top 10 school worldwide and even then it's still very over rated

What's Veeky Forums opinion on accreddited online bachelor's?

I'm considering taking 2 years out to get a bachelor's in business management while my leg heals up and I finish up with probation and what not.

computer engineering, you get the best of both worlds; shitloads of programming experience so you can develop things on your own, but an actual engineering degree to get a high paying job out I'm going into my second year of college, and I'm absolutely broke and have no clue what I'll be doing for money. Since of my school schedule, a lot of places looking for people to hire won't bother getting in touch with me because I can only work 4 days out of the week.of college; minor in humanities, for both your own personal enrichment but also to have cross-applicable skills like high-level reading, writing, critical analysis.

You won't learn the skills to run and implement a successful business; you'll learn how to build one, and how to learn. That's where humanities will play in; picking up on legal procedures,writing grant proposals, etc. (you won't learn this explicitly, but you'll either be able to 1) do it yourself or 2) find the correct human resources to do the job

You'll be highly valuable in industry. You'll have skills to go far beyond a simple industry job, and make something amazing

Some degrees are fine online, management though seems dubious. Management is a fairly interaction driven field. If your degree is proof of not having that experience dealing with people it might be a turnoff.

Well I'm a very good person at making networks and I do have management experience but I see what you mean.

Anyone have any good reccomendations for intering online degrees?

Not degrees per se but a friend of mine studied theater in college and did some online training in web design and he makes about 30K doing that now.

So web design or computer science training online won't get you any interviews at Google but plenty of other places need that stuff even if you don't have a degree.

And that should earn you a chunk of change large enough to get you a real degree if you want.

I got my HS diploma with a concentration in HTML/DHTML and SQL and Web Designing and I honestly have no passion at all for it.