Exist for 1000 years

Seriously, where are the Roman accomplishments in science and art?

There's the Aeneid and....?

>produce no notable technological or scientific advancements
>produce no notable works of literature
>your architecture is greek fanfic
Is this a bizarro world or something? Or are you just staggeringly ignorant?

Does The Metamorphosis of Apuleius count as a Roman work? Algerian? Greek?

>where are the Roman accomplishments in science and art?

>science
precise math that allows steady flows of water over long distances and up fountains and several story buildings, the construction of enduring roads, massive structures with concrete(which they invented), military doctrines and logistics, literally everything about modern justice and all western law systems.

>art
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_literature
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_art

The Romans were excellent at adopting and applying good ideas, but not very good at creating them.

Like, all of the math you're talking about is the work of Greeks.

Sparta and Athens did the whole republic thing way before they did.

What they did do was excellent civil engineering, and they did in fact invent concrete.

>Sparta and Athens did the whole republic thing way before they did.

You don't actually know that much about greek history do you?

I'm genuinely curious.

Explain to me what aspects of law the Romans developed that the Greeks hadn't already done.

nigga please

civil engineering is incredibly important.

>science
Siege-craft, archetecture
>art
they advance painting and perspective in art far beyond the Greeks, though they were only able to copy Greek sculptures, not improve upon them much
The Romans wrote a variety of histories which themselves were considered art by the Renaissance intellectuals.

>Sparta and Athens did the whole republic thing way before they did.

Republics were non-existant in Greece, you're confusing plain democracy with the Roman system of representatives.

Romans had a phenomenal civic spirit and formed assemblies and gatherings of different kinds throughout their history, all with mechanisms to balance their power and veto eachother. They did Democracy better than Greeks ever did.

>I'm a ignorant bait on the internet

Romans were engineers. Their feats of civil engineering are marvels to this day. Roads, aqueducts, bridges, walls. Not even counting the monuments they erected.

Some of these buildings could themselves be considered works of art, the product of refined aesthetic sensibilities wedded to supreme engineering skill.

>Like, all of the math you're talking about is the work of Greeks.

Greeks couldn't even conceive arcs. Romans managed to plot and meassure slight inclinations over huge distances, account for water pressure(Greeks didn't have this) and the techniques and know-how to apply them into massive projects built by dozens of thousands of workers in astonishinly short time, extracting all that material and moving it around being a feat of it's own as well.

LOOK at this fucking bridge. It's the most beautiful, perfect bridge ever. I built a scale model of it in high school.

Sparta was an oligarchic constitutional monarchy, Athens was either ruled by various kinds of dictator or direct democracy. None of those things are a "republic"

That is a legitimately sexy bridge

>most beautiful, perfect bridge ever.

citation needed.

Even the hun invented siege towers, all this thread has established is the romans made some concrete buildings and say the word bait constantly in rage

>dual archons
>carefully thought out assemblies, constitution and rule of law
>not a republic

And here I was worried I'd learn something today.

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>"spqr is the best xD lol fuck off barbarian pl0x"

>Really?

>I'm a ignorant
>a ignorant
>a

Oh the ironing.

Who the fuck is that?

Vercingetorix

Didn't he end up bowing before the feet of Julius Ceaser?

Yea, i'm guessing you took it the wrong way.

>OP you shut your dirty fucking mouth or I'll jerk your dick off in your sleep >:|
That's a very roman thing to do.

>Not even counting the monuments they erected.
I bet their monuments were erected all the time

>Was Roman empire just a huge meme?
Yes, and it was the best meme. It was a meme, and therefore it transcended geographic and ethnic barriers. It was such a great meme that Greeks in Anatolia called themselves Roman. It was such a great meme that Europe and by extension the world idolized and emulated it after it fell.

Rome was great because it was a meme.

To be fair though, Romans could have respected knowledge a lot more. There is a reason the Library of Alexandria didn't bounce back after the Romans accidentally burned it down when conquering the city.

Fedoras bitch about the Dark Ages and Christianity delaying technological progress, but the collapse of the Roman empire was probably a good thing in the long run.

>Fedoras bitch about the Dark Ages and Christianity delaying technological progress, but the collapse of the Roman empire was probably a good thing in the long run.

What does one have to do with the other?

Still butthurt after 2000 years?

Is was more a comparison of what was holding back technological progress, Christian dogma and the feudal systems of western Europe versus the Roman Empire itself.

They got destroyed by Germanics, literally the most powerful people the world has ever seen.
This is hardly shameful

There is really no comparison. Dark ages followed the collapse of the Roman Empire. If you look at the standards of living, the technology, etc. It should be clear who the winner is. Though I do agree with you on that. The fall of the Roman Empire was good in the long, long run.

What is Aeneis?

Culturless fuck. Do you use internet just for porn?

>Do you use internet just for porn?
I thought internet was nothing but porn?

The basis of European law is modeled after the Romans though modified for current times.

Law of acceleration, technology breeds technology. You couldn't expect them to advance as fast as we do today

Rome is to Greece like America is to Britain / Europe. Even the things they actually developed seem like a Greek knockoff.

Hiii von Neumann!

Porn is art you inbred swine.

>>produce no notable works of literature
are you fucking retarded
>what is the Aeneid
>what is Metamorphoses
I'm surprised you didn't use the "Greek fanfic" argument for literature too but you could say that about the entire Roman culture

can't tell if bait

>>produce no notable technological or scientific advancements

Roads
Aquaeducts
Concrete
Julian Calendar
Medicine
Sanitation
Pottery and glass
Mining and casting technology

>>produce no notable works of literature

Virgil
Ovid
Cicero
Petronius
Livy
Tacitus
Seutonius
Marcus Aurelius
Caesar
Apuleius
Horace

>>your architecture is greek fanfic

"Greek" is a loose term that covers many civilisations, whose architecture are as varied as Rome's.

>>get destroyed by a bunch of jews and starving barbarian tribes

Yeah, but in the end Rome was doing as much damage to itself as the 'barbarians' were

>Roads
>Aquaeducts
>Concrete
>Julian Calendar
>Medicine
>Sanitation
>Pottery and glass
>Mining and casting technology

Blah blah blah. Irrelevant hun. Sorry not sorry.

>Virgil
>Ovid
>Cicero
>Petronius
>Livy
>Tacitus
>Seutonius
>Marcus Aurelius
>Caesar
>Apuleius
>Horace

Literally fucking who? Do you just pull this shit out of your fucking arse?

>"Greek" is a loose term that covers many civilisations, whose architecture are as varied as Rome's.

FUCKING KEK. Wow, you're fucking retarded.

>Yeah, but in the end Rome was doing as much damage to itself as the 'barbarians' were

So fucking wrong. You are a moron.

>Literally fucking who? Do you just pull this shit out of your fucking arse?

Did you not read Marcus Aurelius, philistine?

youtu.be/ExWfh6sGyso

Daily reminder it was Julius Caesar who burned the the Library of Alexandria down.

The Library of Alexandria is the biggest fucking meme on this board

lulz. Never seen this sketch.

it's a scene from Life of Brian. highly recommend!

It's funny how the sketch can be used by many people. In the comments pro-EU posters are using it at the same time as pro-colonialists

The more I read about Rome the more it seems a madhouse of cruel tortures and debauched depravity.
Every time a new emperor shows up he sends guards to kill all the senators, boys, women and children of the people who just happened to support his rivals, or be rich.

I'm starting to think Romaboos just fantasize about being powerful manly soldiers.

>The more I read about Rome the more it seems a madhouse of cruel tortures and debauched depravity.
You say that as if it's a bad thing.

>exist for 1000 years
It's more like 2000 years, actually.

What have you actually read about Rome?

Are you taken everything that old coot Tacitus says as fact?

youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

The Story of Civilization Volume 3: Caesar and Christ
By Will Durant

>The Story of Civilization Volume 3: Caesar and Christ
>By Will Durant

>that feel when adult white male from Tennessee, USA

h-heh, good one...

t. Gaius

Those same Germanics were pissing their pants just upon the mention of the Huns, just so you know.

>roads
Nope
>medicine
Nope
>concrete
Nope
>glass
Nope

>not one mention of "invented"

fairly certain this is bait but whatever

>Blah blah blah. Irrelevant hun. Sorry not sorry
How are these irrelevant?

>Literally fucking who? Do you just pull this shit out of your fucking arse?
If you don't know even half the list then you're a cretin who should not be making ridiculous claims on a subject about which you know nothing.

>FUCKING KEK. Wow, you're fucking retarded.
Not really any counter-argument here, so disregarded

>So fucking wrong. You are a moron.
Again, no counter-argument, just needlessly aggressive ad hominem, so disregarded.

Roman Republic >>>>>> Roman Empire

I hope you're shitposting, I really do. Nobody can be simultaneously this stupid and condescending.