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>What the fuck is this?
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Cold War military technology ads:
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/wgg/ misc Cold War literature:
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The Soviet Army: troops, organization & equipment
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USMC intelligence North Korea handbook:
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>Steamgroups:
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/wgg/ new group
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Uralmod official group
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>Legacy Wargame General pasta and game-info repository:
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First for mg3 buff.

NEW PATCH NOTES

GENERIC:
- Mixed decks activation points reduced from 50 to 45.
- Supply refill rate incresed from 30/sec to 50/sec (rearm/refuel/repair rate unchanged).
- AA units based on IFV chassis added to motorized deck : AMX-13 Oeil noir, VTT-323 Igla, Pongae 3, MT-LB Strzala 10M, Chaparral A3, - Strop 1, Sopel.
- Gun noise increased to prevent armed recon from firing at other recons without being detected.
- APC & IFV with only 3 missiles now have 4 missiles (Fuchs Milan, BMP-2 ...).
- Supply trucks carrying 1700 supply now carry 50 extra supply.
- Supply helicopters price reduced : 120$ to 110$, 85$ to 75$, 65$ to 55$, 45$ to 35$, 30$ to 25$.
- Ground & helicopter-based ATGM resupply cost reduced by 20% with the exception of the ADATS which already was cheaper compared with the rest.
- Multirole aircraft veterancy increased by one step.
- Mig-25BM, JH-7A Feibao & Tornado ECR now fire their SEAD missiles one by one to avoid wasting ammo.
- Mig-31 & F-14 detection range against planes greatly increased, they will now act as long range detectors
- Commonwealth coalition bonus increased to +10% availability.
- Eryx HE suppression reduction missing from last patch fixed(invisible change, the armory only feedbacks the values of the AP)
- Eryx users (Eryx, Hightlanders '90, Legion '90, FSK) prototyped & service date set to 1993 to match the weapon production date.
- MG3 nerf from last patch reverted.

- Petard Gun of the AVRE & CEV range reduced to 1050m, accuracy increased to 70%, aim time reduced from 4 to 1sec.
- 150mm guns on tanks HE power increased to 5 (starphip, sheridan, MBT70).
- HOT 2 missiles accuracy incresed from 55%/45% to 65%/50%.
- HOT 1 missile accuracy increased from 40%/30% to 50%/35%.
- Milan 1 missile accuracy increased from 35% to 40%.
- Milan 2 missile accuracy increased from 40% to 45%.
- 24A2 autocannon from early BMP2 accuracy increased from 20%/5% to 25%/10%
- 24A2 autocannon from late BMP2 accuracy increased from 25%/10% to 30%/20%
- Polish & Czech Mi-8T autonomy unified with other Mi-8T from 400 to 550km
- Yak-B gun now fire in bursts, reducing it's global RoF.
- T-72S price reduced from 135$ to 125$
- T-72S1 price reduced from 130$ to 120$
- MBTs availabilities set to match the new prices (see individual nations).
- Planes fuel capacity set to represent better their real life capability (loadout included) and loiter time set acordingly.

WEST-GERMANY:
- CH-53 (sea stalion) was confused with the CH-53E super stallion, it now has price/availability/cargo similar to Mi-8.
- Marder 2 50mm autocannon HE value increased from 1 to 1.5.
- Jager price increased from 10$ to 15$.
- Leopard 1A5 price increased from 60$ to 65$.
- Leopard 2A1 price reduced from 105$ to 100$.
- Leopard 2A4 price reduced from 135$ to 130$.
- Jaguar 1 45 to 40
- Jaguar 1 availability reduced from 12 to 10
- [b]Jaguar 2 price reduced from 55 to 45
- Jaguar 2 optics increased from poor to medium

NORWAY:
- Gevaermenn '90 price increased from 10 to 15$, availability increased by one step
- FSK price increase from 30$ to 35$
- NM113 RAKPV price reduced from 35 to 25
- NM142 price reduced from 70 to 55
- F-5A Puff veterancy reduced by one step
- F-104G price reduced from 80$ to 60$
- F-16AM price reduced from 160$ to 150$

ded as ever

JAPAN:
- Short Arrow model and sound fixed, the missiles used to be displayed in the wrong place.
- Kyu-Roku WAPC is now available to Kütei '90 and JSDF Rangers.
- Kyu Marun Shiki prototyped and AP increased from 22 to 23 to represent the use of a more modern amunition, service date moved to 1993.
- F-104J Ryu vulcan replaced with the low accurate early version of the gun
- F-15J price reduced from 150$ to 145$

DENMARK:
- M41 DK1 price increased from 20$ to 25$
- M/113A1 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
- M/113A1 TOW-2 price reduced from 70 to 55

USA:
- CH-53 renamed CH-53E Super Stallion, service date changed to 1981
- M728 CEV price reduced from 45$ to 35$
- M2 Bradley series availability increased by one step
- M3A2 Bradley availability reduced from 6 to 4 per pack.
- M551 ACAV price incresaed from 25$ to 30$.
- V-150 20mm ammo loadout increased from 120 to 390 rounds.
- Super M60 price reduced from 65$ to 60$
- M1A1 Abrams price reduced from 120$ to 115$
- M1A1 HA price reduced from 145$ to 140$
- M1A1 HC price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- M150 price reduced from 35 to 25
- M901 ITV price reduced from 55 to 40
- M901 ITV availability increased from 8 to 10
- M901A1 ITV price reduced from 75 to 60
- LAV-AT price reduced from 45 to 40
- LAV-AT availability increased from 8 to 10
- Tomcat in the AIR tab split into 2 cards of 1 plane at trained level
- F-111E loadout changed from 12x Mk82 to 12x MM117, price increased from 110$ to 130$

CANADA:
- Centurion Marksman removed from motorized decks.
- Leopard C2 MEXAS price increased from 75$ to 80$
- LAV TUA price reduced from 75 to 60
- M113 TUA price reduced from 70 to 55
- M150 I-TOW price reduced from 45 to 35
- M150 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25

UK:
- Fixing of a salvo bug that lowered Rarden's Autocannon RoF more than expected when stressed.
- Centurion AVRE peice reduced from 40$ to 30$.
- Chieftain Mk.11 optics increased to normal.
- Chieftain Mk.11 price reduced from 85$ to 80$
- Challenger Mk.1 price reduced from 115$ to 105$
- Challenger Mk.2 price reduced from 125$ to 120$
- Challenger Mk.3 price reduced from 150$ to 145$
- FV102 Striker price reduced from 45 to 40
- FV102 Striker availability increased from 8 to 10
- Tornado F.2 price increased from 110$ to 115$

SWEDEN:
- AMOS autorized in mototrized decks.
- Kustjägare price reduced from 40$ to 35$ and removed from mechanized decks.
- Strv 121 price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- PVRBV 551 price reduced from 45 to 30
- PVRBV 551 availability increased from 12 to 14
- PVPTJGB 1111 availability increased from 10 to 12
- SK-60B missile changed from F&F to Semi active guidance, accuracy set to 50%
- J 35J Draken price reduced from 80$ to 75$
- JA 37 Viggen price reduced from 110$ to 105$
- JAS 39 Gripen price reduced from 160$ to 150$

FRANCE:
- AML 60/20 Serval price reduced from 30$ to 25$.
- Commando Marine price reduced from 40$ to 35$.
- AMX/HOT price reduced from 45 to 40
- AMX/HOT availability increased from 8 to 10
- VAB Mephisto availability increased from 8 to 10
- AMX-10P Milan price reduced from 30 to 25
- AMX-10P Milan availability increased from 12 to 16
- Mirage F1C-200 price rduced from 105$ to 100$

S-KOREA:
- K1 price increased from 85$ to 90$
- KM1131A1 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
- KM1131A1 I-TOW price reduced from 45 to 35
- F-4D Peace Pheasant I loadout increased from 18xMk82 to 25xMk82

ANZAC:
- ASLAV-25 TOW-2 price reduced from 55 to 45
- ASLAV-25 TOW-2 availability increased from 6 to 8
- F-111C loadout reduced from 8xMk84 to 4xMk-84, ECM increased from 10% to 30%, price reduced from 160$ to 140$
- F-111C is now reserved as a national/coalition asset with a single card of 2 planes.
- Mirage IIIO(F) price reduced from 80$ to 70$
- ANZAC F-4E Phantom price reduced from 100$ to 90$

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USSR:
- UAZ 469 KPVT price reduced from 15$ to 10$ like the other versions
- PT-85 & PT-90 RoF fixed from 12RPM to 8 RPM and autoloader removed
- PT-90 accuracy increased from 35%/10% to 50%/20%
- T-64BM price increased from 90$ to 100$
- T-64BV1 price reduced from 120$ to 110$
- T-64BV price reduced from 130$ to 120$
- T-72B price reduced from 95$ to 90$
- T-72B Obr 1987 price reduced from 125$ to 110$
- T-72B Obr 1989 price reduced from 150$ to 135$
- T-72BU price reduced from 180$ to 175$
- T-80B price reduced from 80$ to 75$
- T-80A price reduced from 110$ to 105$
- T-80BV price reduced from 120$ to 110$
- T-80U price reduced from 155$ to 150$
- T-80UM price reduced from 170$ to 165$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M price reduced from 50 to 45
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M availability increased from 6 to 8
- Shturm-S availability increased from 6 to 8
- Su-27S price increased from 150$ to 155$

CSSR:
- S-24 rocket on the Mi-25 aim time reduced from 1sec to 0.6sec.
- T-72M2 Moderna price reduced from 165$ to 155$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M price reduced from 50 to 45
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M availability increased from 6 to 8

E-GERMANY:
- Mot-Schützen '90 prototyped.
- Fasta-4 missile changed for Igla-1 as DDR never used Strela-3's. Service date changed to 1988, price increased from 30$ to 35$.
- Reserveschützen soldiers per squad increased from 10 to 15.
- SPW-40P2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- SPW-40P2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- SPW-40P2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- SPW-40P2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- Mig-21Bis Lazur price reduced from 85$ to 80$

POLAND:
- T-72M1 Wilk price reduced from 125$ to 120$
- PT-91 Twardy price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- Mig-27 gun efficiency halved

CHINA:
- ZSD-90 side armor increased from 1 to 2
- ZZC-56 single KPVT changed for a ZPTU-2 as displayed on the model
- WZ-550 HJ-9 missile speed increased to the level of the other laser guided missiles
- HJ-8A missiles acuracy increased from 40% to 50%
- Z-9A HJ-8B missile accuracy incresed from 50%/40% to 60%/45%
- Su-100 price reduced from 20$ to 15$
- Lu Zhandui '90 rocket loadout increased from 9 to 12
- ZTZ-85-III price reduced from 145$ to 140$
- WZ-550 availability increased from 3 to 4
- BRDM-1 HJ-73 availability increased from 16 to 20
- JH-7A Feibao price reduced from 160$ to 150$
- J-8IIB & J-8C gun range vs planes increased to 2800m

N-KOREA:
- Hwasung Chong's strela's accuracy increased from 30% to 40% by consistency with other strela
- Type 63 price increased from 20$ to 25$
- Type 63 accuracy reduced from 50% to 40% & ability to fire on the move removed as the vehicule had no stabilizer.
- Su-100 price reduced from 20$ to 15$
- Bochungsu now have access to BTR-50PK and ZSD-531A
- VTT-323 Igla price reduced from 45$ to 40$
- T-90S price reduced from 175$ to 170$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- Type 85 Susong-Po price reduced from 25 to 20
- Type 85 Susong-Po availability increased from 12 to 20

Plane availability is also bugged, check your decks

>we heard that you like fascistjäger, so we made a 15 men strong squad of them

>20 Leopard 2A4s in one deck

balance mon ami ;^)

>introduce literal non-country as paid DLC with less handmade content than fucking north korea, probably made in an afternoon
>oy vey this is not free we will demand more money for factions that actually deserve to be in the game like finland or yugoslavia
>buy the DLC goyim or you will not see these either :^)
if they can make factions out of these shitty non-countries what's next, fucking belgium?

>not Yugoslavia
>not Hungary
>not Albania
>not Turkey
>not Greece
>not Italy
>The Netherlands

FUCKING.


DROPPED.

>Korps Mariner

WE

>deserve to be in the game
>like finland

u wot

Finland really should have been added in ALB.

And what would they have exactly?

That one transport they made?

ski-mounted borsch removers
15 men shock squads armed with DMRs and a movement speed of 60km

VAS

RIP type 63
The DPRK can't have nice things.

KONIGGERN

>not op at all

>15 strength fsj
>stealth tank
>longbow
>scud
>dragon with HE
>non-rad hawk
>25pts mortar

>no bicycle transport
>all units named John Doe
>no patriots
0/10 stroopwafels

>thread theme
>not youtube.com/watch?v=6m-HS4vZHPo

Is it worth to buy it?

For 10 or so dollars, sure.

no, the Netherlands deck

How often do you play blufor?

Nearly 50/50 split between blufor and redfor

noob here, who never played the game much since he bought it.. now then stupid questions:

what infantry to put in generic best friends forever weeaboo tagteam deck?
souchong85 in 5pt trans + nipponbuntai90 in grenadetransport?

nswp airdef what to go for? osa-akm? newa/kub+shilka?
are the polish blueberets worth it? or just go with motshützen since they are cheaper?

is the game ded? can i still get some 1v1 actions as noob?

>blue dragon infantry
Haebyung 90 and kutei '90 both in wheeled transport, then either mistral or atgm infantry.
>nswp aa
The baseline is strop 2 and osa ak, then you can take either heavier plane aa (newa) or helo aa (german tunguska) or a bit of both (german tor).
>nswp infantry
Motschützen '90, almost as good as mg3 infantry.

tfw no infantry standardization

The MG3 line inf getting bitch-slapped helps a little, but it's true that standardization would be preferable.

What does napalm smell like?

i made some when i was a teenager for shits and giggles. it smells the same as gasoline.

wouldnt the lack of cheapo infantry hurt? to scatter around and such and fill in gaps? habeyung&co are fine but expensive as fuck

is there any real difference with mot90/vysadkary90/spadchron? they seem identical beside transport options...

Mot '90 gets a better AR and LMG than Vysad/Spado. The cheap BMP1/BMP2 options are also really good transports not available to the other two.

Germany+Denmark or Germany+Netherlands?

So the tulip fuckers paid DLC is basically Eugen admitting that AoA was a massive failure and that they now are critical on cash, right?

Tactical missile test for you fags.

>cuts out before the hit

Fug, thats what I get for not paying attention.

congratulations you've now made new bait.

Someone should shoop that "to be continued" music/frame on it.

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Alright, I fixed it. Damn size requirements.

You wouldn't be able to, its max size, that's why it got cut off.

for being a tactical missile it should really have a larger explosion, that small thing makes me sad.

Bump it up to 25 HE and give it old nuke explosion the f-117 used to have.

The BMP has awoken.

>there are now twice as many BLUFOR nations as REDFOR

hi bmplad

you realize that was how it was irl, right?

unless you REALLY want to play as angola, cuba, etc.

Yugoslavia has every right to be in this game desu

And italy.

Both are "challenging" and "flavorful".

I don't know senpai, I was just curious since I can't get the DLC at the moment.

Victory.

I find Denmark - Germany Pretty good, Denmark has some solid infantry and planes, also the otomatic, Germany already has solid infantry and tanks. And overall I find they complement eachother well, it looks like Netherlands will be pretty hilarious to mix with Germany though since it looks like it is a mix of USA light and Germany light.

I sure am glad we got rid of those planefags.

bumping with MEME UNITS

I'm glad people are finally appreciating just how amazing the Mig-29M is.

Why is getting a horrendously low K:D in a conquest game allowed?

Why do people fail to recognize conquest is the gamemode of the shitter.

Conquest is my favored because it makes assaulting territory actually important well in destruction it is more about making strong defence and lobbing shells at eachother since you will almost always lose more attacking a well defended position then you will kill.