What would Buckley think of Trump if he were still alive?

What would Buckley think of Trump if he were still alive?

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"I think Drump is a pretty cool guy. eh builds walls and doesn't afraid of anything."
~t. Buckley

Buckley, like many conservatives of his era, heavily admired fascists like Francisco Franco due to his harshly anti-communist beliefs.

So, he would probably support Trump.

What makes Trump a fascist

Are you kidding me?!

I didn't explicitly say that Trump was a fascist.

I implied that conservatives like Buckley have a major hard-on for muscular strongmen leading a large, aggresive State- as long as the State targets 'undesirable' elements. Could be anarchists, socialists, communists- or in the 21st century, Islamists.

No.
>inb4I just want to know why people consider him to be one, he just sounds like a cheap populist with unreasonable and unreal goals

You don't have to speculate. He wrote a whole essay about Trump in 2000:

nationalreview.com/article/430187/william-f-buckley-donald-trump-demagoguery-cigar-aficionado

redstate.com/ironchapman/2016/01/23/william-buckley-warned-us-donald-trump/

he would salty about him resurrecting the john birch society's sentiment that he worked to blackball and exclude.

he's the OG cuckservative and would be spamming #NeverTrump on twitter right now

Out of every Republican candidate, Trump is probably the most liberal in terms of government intervention in the economy.

Are you referring to American liberalism (leftism) or actual liberalism (not intervening).

Yes, tariffs, immigration restrictions and protecting entitlement spending sure is fiscally responsible.

NatCaps share traits with fascism but isn't the same.

Get back to work so you can pay for my welfare please.

>"protecting entitlement"
>"tarrifs"
>"immigration restrictions"

Everybody look, this is the height of democrat understanding of economics, probably Bernie Sanders himself.

Trump is neither classically liberal(rand) or neo liberal(hillary).

He does share traits with Hitler economically, and of course you average democrat thinks Hitler committed genocide through his economic policy.

In what world is American liberalism i.e. deindustrialisation, privatisation and foreign interventions remotely leftist

>alt-right buzzwords

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economic nationalism is very american ie merchantilism.

Buckley shut down the stormfront of his time from the conservative establishment.

I meant national as in authoritarian, IE keeping the 35% corporate tax rate, probably upping tarrifs and government intervention.

U.S. industries will be hurt a little bit. For instance, we will probably have to pay a lot more for steel products and make less money on exports because China sells us lots of cheap steel, but we might also be seeing a positive trade defecit for the first time in a long time.

>buckley shut down the autistic controlled opposition that was basically an internal slander campaign

>but we might also be seeing a positive trade defecit for the first time in a long time.

Whether we have a trade surplus or deficit is literally irrelevant.

He's a crypto-fascist, not a true libertarian who values social liberalism. fiscal conservatism, and limited government

Perfect for any Drumpfkin supporter

youtube.com/watch?v=ZY_nq4tfi24

do you think it is more green to let china pollute and send it to us?

That's not American liberalism. The left usually supports big government, IE federal rights over state rights, public companies, and large taxes.

The United States actually has pretty large large taxes. Cucknada, socialist breeding grounds, believe it or not, taxes rich people less than the United States. (33% to our over 60%)

Don't feel this is accurate senpai.

Who cares? Buckley is a glorified Bill OReilly.

>do you think it is more green to let china pollute and send it to us?

China is still industrialising. As long as there is a demand for cheap goods, they will gladly serve as the world's workshop. They should be allowed to go the same process as the developed world did.

>That's not American liberalism
It is, the points I mentioned are all policies which the Democratic Party, America's liberals par excellence, support almost unanimously, the most obvious example of this is their decades long role as cheerleaders for various "free-trade" agreeements, which no leftist would actually support.

>muh fascism
St least "drumpf" isn't taking funds from legit dictators

You think Buckley and Vidal fucked on the downlow?

>neo liberals support privatization
This isn't what I see anywhere. They always want to raise taxes and toss it to some government funded agency

>neoliberals support foreign intervention
You've been living in a cave. Democrats shit themselves every time somebody even says the word soldier. This is the one public thing they support defunding.

>neo liberals support de industrialization
Need specification on this. I don't think anybody. Jobs are jobs, even if they are trash. We won't be solving that for another hundred years at least.

>You've been living in a cave. Democrats shit themselves every time somebody even says the word soldier. This is the one public thing they support defunding.
Hilary is more bellicose than Trump. As for privatisation and deindustrialisation, have you actually looked at any trade deals since NAFTA or looked into the development of US capitalism since the 70's?

Bill Clinton sure was famous for being non-interventionist, am I right?
Oh yeah, gotta remember Barack Obama, literally a dove.

'twas but a meme you dips

youtube.com/watch?v=UYOy1tuVv3w

>to our over 60%

What? Top tax bracket is 39%, and nobody actually pays it.

He'd probably say something about loss.

Truly, it has become a new kind of abstract art genre

Privatization (dressed as "public-private partnerships" and Third Way politics a la Bill Clinton) has been the economic consensus of the United States government since Reagan (arguably Democrats resisted until the aforementioned Clinton presidency). look at the way Obamacare played out - it expanded taxation, but in the form of coercing people into buying more private health insurance to fund a private healthcare system with public expenditures going to penalty taxes for non-compliance and research grants that go to private think tanks, research firms, and universities. Unless you're a complete economic and historical illiterate who thinks privatization = no taxes ever of any kind and that Democratic rhetoric about being the party of FDR goes any further than a Teleprompter, this should be baldly obvious to you.

39% federal, 10%+ state, then you have local taxes, then if you own assets you have to pay tons of fines as every African you ever work with sues you for being racist and you they arent charged for court fees

>obama was actually pushing for privatized insustries with obamacare
>all the money that went to tgose private companies would dissapear instead of going to other private companies eithout this

Ive seen it all

>Veeky Forums is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates.

>t expanded taxation, but in the form of coercing people into buying more private health insurance to fund a private healthcare system with public expenditures going to penalty taxes for non-compliance

It really is funny actually, that people are so infatuated by the idea of a universal healthcare system, that they will accept it no matter how grossly corrupt it is.

Canada has that stuff too. And again, nobody actually pays taxes that high. Rich people pay lower percentage than middle class because their income is from capital gains, not salaries.

Capital gains only gets an exemption if you hold a stock over a year iirc, which is a very large oppurotunity cost for seasoned investors.