4 million Bengalis

>4 million Bengalis

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Japan shouldn't have invaded the British raj

Japs bombed all railroads used by Brits to bring food to Bengalia :DDD

>t. war office
>we dindu nuffin, we good bois, the bengalis didn't need fishing boats anyway.

>the Jews only died because the generous Germans couldn't supply them the food they needed!

>Does that include Gandhi?

>That Gandhi ought to be lain bound hand and foot at the gates of Delhi, and then trampled on by an enormous elephant with the new Viceroy seated on its back.

pretty autistic desu.
what is it with wartime leaders and dumb ideas?

>crazy warmongers do crazy warmonger things
Shocking!

kinda curious. why does the japanese atrocities in china get so much publicity when the bengal famine gets glossed over?

you know exactly why

Because famine isn't seen as bad as murdering people for scientific experiments or sacking a city. Also, people care a lot more about Chinese than Bengalis for some reason. Few million Bengalis died because the food got cut off? Well that happens a lot.

The Nips lost. Duh.

a) white supremacy

b) victor bias

take your pic

Still people cares about the Chinese famine and ukrainian one

Because chinks matter more to the world than smelly indians.

that happened like three times under the british and even the early post company colonial rule was more sympathetic to that. If you guys are interested in reading about pre gandhian non violent struggle in india, I would advise you to look up on the indigo rebellion in the province of Bengal.

Also, officers on the ground for the most part were rather appalled that the upper echelons were trying to brush that entire thing under the carpet. Wavell tried organizing a relief effort but was always low on supplies for the relief effort.

Those deaths were caused by the bombing of supply lines by the Alli- I mean Axis

t. Chingchong

>inb4 we wuz center of the galaxy and shit
Europeans always tried to have access to India and the spice islands rather than china.
or that too. Victorian famines kinda get pushed under the carpet

in the 19th and early 20th century most of the colonial wealth of britain was situated around the Raj but its interesting that in popular consciousness you have places in africa that became the posterchild for colonialism and it's ill effects, even though india had similar levels of degradation under the raj

Japan was evil.

Chinese government have a tendency to stoke nationalism (regularly). So they use the japs' old history against them. Anytime something political comes up, Senkaku Islands for example, boycott of Japanese goods, trashing of Japanese stores, harassment of Japanese nationals/sympathizers/product users/etc.

With latest craze being the South China Sea claim, they will stoke anti-American/Jap shit again. Mainly because the chinks perceive those two countries to be better than them.

every fucking American schoolkid learns about the potato famine, which killed far fewer people

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that due to irish settlers being an important part of america?

Kek when will the Bengalis get a break
>Converted to Islam by Mughals and Arabs
>4million starve to death
>Get tied with pakistan
>Get genocided and raped by pakis

If we learned about every time a few million Asians died, that would be literally all we learned about.

You're not wrong.

This in relation to Japan murdering people in China for shits and giggles as opposed to wartime famine caused by strategic efforts to disrupt supplies. Obviously one is going to be seen as worse than the other.

>resisting european imperialism is evil
ok

you forgot
>elect communists to power because of pointless idealism
>proceed to turn calcutta which was an excellent thriving city and west bengal which was rapidly industrializing in west bengal into a fundamentalist shithole.
If any fucking commie tard says that communism has never been tried, point them to west bengal.

Now sucking indian cock

>strategic efforts
yes, having a scorched earth policy reinstated and having the rural supply system disrupted because the brits were afraid the japanese would be sailing to calcutta on fishing boats is wartime considerations.

jesus that sounds almost sexual

wonder why(:

Yeah, like 10% of Americans are of mostly Irish descent.

But the Bengal famine was a major contributing factor in the struggle for Indian independence. This makes it hugely more important in the broader view of history.

The bengali middle class was prominent in the indian freedom movement you tard, especially in the more violent parts. They have their language protected well enough in the modern indian republic and they have a country to protect their culture as well.

kek

not really - no.

The bengali famine was yet another kick in the balls by the brits to india in general, but the brits dropped the ball pretty fucking hard during the INA trials

If you are more interested, look up at what the INA achieved merely by existing.
>coalition of indian men AND women fighting together side by side irrespective of caste lines
>Japan seen as honorable ally who was freeing us from the white man
>The raj at it's nadir with the retreat from burma and army morale at an all time low.
It was a fucking tinderbox that made everything about the old raj ideals obsolete.

You had indians from a wide variety of places fighting together and being led by a bengali - who the british considered as the lowest on the martial totem pole - on the cusp of victory against european colonialism.

Then after the war the british decide to hold a public trial for them at the red fort and all hell breaks loose.

The INC and the Muslim league band together to demand the release of the soldiers being tried. They did this while waiting for india to be partitioned.

Countries Churchill fucked up before becoming PM

Egypt
Israel
Palestine
Iraq
India
Saudi Arabia
Afghanistan
Pakistan
The Ottoman Empire (Turkey)

Countries that Churchill fucked up as PM

Pakistan (Some more)
India (Some more)
Iran (Twice)

Seriously that guy's decisions and actions between Gallipoli and The Coup of Mossadegh can pretty much be blamed for 90% of the problems in the post-Soviet world

The "Churchill is good" meme needs to die. Every historian who isn't Niall Ferguson or any Fergusonian popular book shill who want to jerk off WWII for old boomer bucks pretty much thinks Churchill was a disaster of a human being

Because Japan was basically seen as the saviour of Asia, except in Korea and China tbqhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gggggsssssggggggg

Because eternal anglo.

To be fair, Pakistan was probably gonna be a failed state to begin with. I always find it ironic when they complain about Zionism and their Palestinian "brothers and sisters"

Muhammad Ali Jinnah: I want a secular free state!

B-but just for muslims!

Pakistan was doing just fine post independence until 1965.
They got fucked hard by India in that, even though the war was a ceasefire.

Because the Japanese never personally saw to the systematic occupation and starvation of Bengal.

Can't say the same about China/ASEAN.

>Churchill asked about the relief effort
>"then why isn't gandhi ded yet :^)"
thats as direct as you can get in a democracy.

Nope. Bangladesh is neutral.

>>Japan seen as honorable ally who was freeing us from the white man

India would have recieved the same freedom China, SK, Taiwan, and ASEAN recieved.

Bengal's mass starvation only occurred after Japan began fucking up Burma and Bengal.

China and ASEAN were deliberately starved by Japan before America or the allies even joined the war.

There's at least a margin of blame on the Japanese in Bengal, but the systematic starvation in China and ASEAN were 100% Japan's fault.

It was just human nature, Britain dindu nuffin ever

>seen as
what part of that did you not understand
The brits allowed convoy shipping to go to greece from australia because of the hardy greeks meme.

Frankly I think the country would have worked better as either multiple states or one united state, the problem is that you don't have the Hindus and Muslims to offset each other so you end up with assholes like Indra Gandhi and Modi, and in Pakistan you've pretty much had a perpetual police state of varying levels of Islamic influence.

God I just puked looking at the face of that filthy anglo rat

Fucking genocidal war hungry maniac

He's responsible for ruining Europe

>He's responsible for ruining Europe
And The Middle East
And South Asia

Pretty much the entire Old World

>indira gandhi
>modi
what did they do?
or are you one of those punjabi bastards who used the agricultural prosperity under indira gandhi to emigrate to the west and cry about oppression?

bumping. This is an interesting topic for discussion.

Also forgot the other British caused super-famine; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Bengal_famine_of_1770

TEN MILLION people starved to death because the British wanted opium to trade for Chink tea.

I kinda find it funny that everyone assumes that the brits forced the chinese to buy opium because they were otherwise just traders who would be using british silver to buy chinese goods

The brits had access to the entire treasury and incomes of bengal, and they ran it like an african colony. A lot of the smaller semi urbanized places in bengal like Nadia and Murshidabad declined because of this forced deurbanization of bengal.

Islamist nationalism in a nutshell desu

What's the point of Pakistan anyway? Shoving together all the Muslim peoples in the area?

When India became independent, Hindu radicals went fucking insane. They forced all the Muslims they could into Bangladesh and Pakistan, in a Trail-of-Tears scenario that killed about a million of people.

Pakistan and Bangladesh were actually one country for a while, which was shitshow considering that they're 1,000 miles apart. After twenty years of that, the Bengalis rebelled. Supported by India, they won their war of independence, but 3 million civilians were slaughtered by the rampaging Pakistani army.

bengal got most of its rice from burma and japan invaded, blame japan

>hindu radicals
yeah, direct action day was done by evil hindus who made the muslims eat pork and rape the the innocent schoolgoing muslim girls...
oh wait.
>we dindu nuffin

Prisoners of war get the short end of the stick in any shortage situations anyway, it's not like those who were captured by japanese fared any better.

>people hear churchill and think of a posh aristocrat scumbag
>rather than based Duke of Marlborough, John Churchill
the world isn't fair

>10%
Try 30%

There are officially about 35 million Irish descents (fully and partially).

35/320 = 10%

Other guy is correct.

the japs treated the potential INA recruits pretty good
[spoiler]as far as japanese standards go.[/spoiler]
then why do burgers go full potatoboo? Legit question. Is it just a meme to get drunk on St. Patrick's day?

Its a "le alcohol meme". Burgers go full on "le ghost/monsters" on halloween. Doesn't mean they believe in witches/monsters.

>in the 19th and early 20th century most of the colonial wealth of britain was situated around the Raj but its interesting that in popular consciousness you have places in africa that became the posterchild for colonialism and it's ill effects, even though india had similar levels of degradation under the raj
can we discuss about this? This is a legitimate question. Whenever the evils of colonialism are discussed, everyone talks about it from a african perspective. But the entire reason why every one wanted a colony was because the raj was incredibly successful

alright. So its a cultural excuse to get drunk?
America pretty much seems like a frat party sometimes desu

Yeah. Little bit to do with prohibition of alcohol back in the days. People like to quote that shit like its their Bible sometimes.

You can call it little immature at times. With overconsumption and lack of self control being the underlying meme behind many of the immature behaviors of average Americans.

so was st patrick's day a way to get around prohibition?
and its nice to see people have fun. Brings out the kid in all of us.

Just nail him to a cross, Jeez.

please, lets not make him a martyr

>they should breed less like we do, now they are starving t. le drunken warmonger man of air superiority
WHY DO ASIANS BREED SO MUCH Veeky Forums?!?

because they were able to sustain those populations?

Apparently not *tips fedora*

I think it is more if a "ny heritage" and melting pot thing. St. Pats for Irish heritage. Columbus day for Italians, lots of towns do Oktoberfest things for Germans.

Maybe for the weewuzs. Most people celebrating stuff like italian and irish holidays are the sum of peasant Kraut migrant seed.

pic related
pretty sure oklahoma does that octoberfest to get around their retarded beer laws.

>1 Million gauls

>direct action day was done by evil hindus who made the muslims eat pork and rape the the innocent schoolgoing muslim girls...

But this is exactly what happened

>tch... indians... breed like rabbits...
>don't send relief... teach them a lesson...

t. Mohammed Ali Quli "descendent of the prophet PBUH". Murtaza

It's working well in Kerala, though.

What are you talking about? 1/3 of Muslims stayed in India. A lot of them are successful engineers, entrepreneurs, actors, etc. The population exchange killed both Hindus and Muslims.

>jews were POWs

its because the keralite economy is dependent on foreign remissions. In west bengal, the Commies came to power by doing 'land reform'.
These reforms included giving bangladeshi illegals fake voter ID cards and small bits of land. As a result the agricultural productivity of west bengal has nearly stagnated, and the heavy industry that bengal was steadily developing under early congress rule was shut down by rampant trade unionism.

West bengal is a character case in how communism destroys a state from the inside out by cannibalizing it's social structure and replacing it with inept party members. Hell, the average CPI(M) cadre in west bengal went over to the new political party in power once the commies finally lost.

it was a shitpost.

A lot of the muzzies that stayed in india were pretty active in the two nations movement. The Keralite muslims come to mind. When push came to shove they stayed in India and created a nice 5th column to retard india's progress by chimping out.

Don't forget, "Keep England white, that should be a good slogan."

what?

>user saved my pasta

>it's another 'non-brits are jelly of our infinite success' thread

>infinite success
someone post the 350 million GBP meme already.

What can I say user, I really liked it

Don't forget, if Churchill had his way, stormfaggots would actually have a point about the British being worse than the Germans.

>"Let's Bomb the Russians"
>"And invade Norway"
>"And invade Ireland"
>"That will show the Germans."

That was literally Churchill's reelection slogan. Even at the time, it was regarded as embarrassingly racist.

>'infinite success'

It's almost like the empire was in a war or something!?

The fishing boats in hindsight could have been spared but it wasn't a haunted at the time that they would not be needed for the war. The same goes for the grain and grain transport vessels. It's not like it wasn't expected however. The British government was not going to "potentially harm the war effort" on the behalf of some non-british subjects. Multi-ethnic empires never treat all subjects equally and at this point large portions of the British government assumed famine was just a common factor of being in India, something to be expected.

More like 'infinite spending'

>takes a massive hit
>still worth more than the amexican dollar

> The British government was not going to "potentially harm the war effort" on the behalf of some non-british subjects.
Sounds like a defense at Nuremberg, desu.