/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist, Payday 2 and Payday 3 General

>Microtransactions aren't actually gone.
>Still doing the shitty DLC jewery
>Still doing the shitty movie crossover jewery.
>First new heist in a while isn't even good.
>Skill tree overhaul fucked balance as hard as the gun unbalancing.
At last this game gets the death it needed.

EIGHTEEN MORE MONTHS

>3 friends just bought the game
>all of them insist on doing all the classic heists first in chronological order
>they also wanted to do it on DW
I mannaged to talk them down to Overkill but still they insist on playing through every single heist in chronological order and it is fucking annoying trying to keep 3 complete shitters that I can't just kick

There's a chronological order?

>implying that murky station wasn't fun.

It was maybe the Shadow Raid of the poor but still decent.

>in order
Uhh.. So it's the classics, then all of hector's heists, all of the dentists heists with hoxton breakout last. then hoxton revenge since all the others are not really following any story lines relevant to the time line?

I think OVK's idea is that the heists are all released in chronological order.

Other than some guessing with the base game heists, you can probably chain all the DLCs in order. The base game heists also have some sort of implied order because some of them are obviously piss-easy tutorial heists (Jew Store) while some expect some semblance of competence (FF).

It's probably actually something like:
- Jew Store
- Base game Vlad heists (I think it's Four Stores -> Mallcrasher -> Nightclub -> UK Job)
- H&Ts and remaining Bain heists
- Base game Elephant and Hector heists, dunno which contractor would come first.
- Then go through the DLCs in release order since none of them go back in time or are flashbacks.

Tell your friends they're stupid because they can't be assed to do the research before going off on their autism.

Also would like to mention that when I say DLC, I meant every single heist that was added to the game after release.

From Election Day and Diamond Store to Biker Heist.

I only make this clarification because I realised that shit like Car Shop and Art Gallery and Cook Off aren't DLCs like Election Day and Shadow Raid which is really, really stupid and inconsistent.

Surprisingly there is here is a story line and a chronological order although it's still vague on the small lines:

>At the beginning, the original crew does all the classic jobs, solve the overdrill mystery and sell the gold to Hector,
>then for some reasons, the gang decide to stay in Washington D.C., Hoxton get arrested by the F.B.I. and get replaced by Houston,
>Gang go from 25 millions job to much smaller ones, trying to please the Elephant, Vlad and Hector in the process,
>Elephant than ask the payday gang to change the course of the elections (it's unknown if the stealth approach, plan B or C was canon)
>than the Dentist manages to approach Dallas and convince the gang to do various favors to him in exchange of helping the gang to free Hoxton,
>in the meantime, they help Gage to empty the murkywater warehouse, traumatizing the mercenaries into pulling out later
>after that arrives the Hoxton arc where for some reasons Clover was here to help the gang in the FBI headquarters despite appearing officially only a few months later,
>Than the Croatian mafia appear with the Butcher trying to jew the payday gang (selling a bow for more than 80k) sending Dragan to keep an eye on the bomb although he decided to stay in D.C., liking the outlaw life there.
>Hoxton and the gang finally catch the traitor, living after this an happy life, helping Vlad becoming a bigger memelord and doing various mindless jobs,

There is also a story about the Commissar Garret and Captain Winter trying to stop the payday gang, following them to Florida which is kinda a time paradox since Winter wasn't there when the crew decided to do this job back in the first game.

Like I said, for everything past the base game, release order is probably chronological order.

You can filter out specific plotlines but even in the voice lines, they make it sound like the heists are as far apart time-wise from each other as they are in real life. e.g. HR doesn't happen immediately after HB or GGC because of all the planning and shit they have to do per heist

And Bain is a slave driver so the gang probably did plenty of heists without Hoxton until they broke him out.

I think we can pretend Winters showing up in the Classic heists is just shit writing for MUH GAMEPLAY FIRST instead of any connection to the lore.

Oh, don't forget the tutorials. Tutorials probably come immediately after the Classics in the timeline. They are probably the only exception to the rule.

Also technically the Safehouse probably comes first, then the tutorials.

Deep Payday lore.
I just figured the chronology was easier heists to harder heists unless the game states otherwise like with the Hoxton heists.

>June 2016
>Suit Grinder is still the most versatile fun simple perfect build
How can one perk deck be so based?

>You know, I could've made it in porn. Just sayin'.
>yeah, um, I'm just going to look into that.

>that feeling when you realise your comfy night is about to get extra comfier.

Every time I go to try out a different perk deck I realize Grinder's got it beat.

>That Dreamhack summer 2016 stream on the starbreeze twitch account.

we battleborn tier now

Since when did they add GenSec Elite Shotgunners?

Reminder that the bikes are basically incapable of turning while moving.

Have to stop, turn, then move or else you're stuck driving back and forth in a straight line forever.

>skulldozer faceplate censor
I forgive you.

Since the Deathwish update, but their spawn values are so low it's likely you'll never see them

Not that guy but I never knew there were shotgun greys.

Always wondered why there weren't any since they were basically palette swapped upgrades of greens.

they spawn pretty often on biker heist d1 and hoxton revenge but only those for some reason

Biker heist was not worth 7 usd
First day was short and annoying, second day was really short, and really annoying if you want to get all of the loot

If you have bought any DLC in the past year you're a fucking idiot that doesn't deserve money.

Golden Grin was good. Birth of Sky was fun too. That's really it

Both of those were shit and you're shit.

Golden Grin was big and empty. Birth of Sky was Narrow and empty

but thats not Muscle+ICTV

So why aren't you buying more sydney safes ?

oh god fucking damnit why are they still doing this
it's nto a game you can run in a tournament setting due to the rng and fucking abysmal coding
why the fuck are they doing this instead of making more heists

Not just RNG. If its anything like the last tourney they did, all the maps available will have fucky spawns, way higher enemy numbers and shortcuts will be walled off. After all, its not like they want to just give away 10k.

why is the community grenade so much better than the DLC grenade???? twice the explosion radius wtf why not make it a reskin for free or 10 dmg less but making it actually much better than the DLC grenade is bullshit

the players seem to be loving it

yes and i think its great that now everyone can use grenades but why make the free one twice as good as both dlc grenades (Dynamite and DLC nade both have 5m expl radius) instead of maybe the same or slightly worse (or even slightly better) but twice the expl radius is too much

Speaking of grenades whats the general opinion on the retrievable throwables like the javelin, cards and Shuriken

Cards are worthless, javelins are circumstantial but good when used appropriately (crits can kill a skulldozer in 1 headshot) and shuriken are p gr8.

The biker heist. Some mods had them before that.

Your opinion.
My choice.

They were always ingame, just rare.

I don't see why should I be throwing sticks when I have two guns.

the Javs have 1100 dmg and can one hit kill a special that sits in your face while you reload

Rare enough that they never spawned yeah.

After the crimefest II fiasco, devs are afraid people draw the "P2W" card on their game so that's why they don't care about making dlc useless. Beside, the gage weapon pack 01 has a lot more to offer, including the Heavy Eagle that shitters absolutely love.

i dont get why the Eagle is so popular it cant hit shit and the ammo runs out fast

I see them occasionally on 4stores. Just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean its not there. Dont be like that guy from a few weeks back that got supremely assmad because overkill added cops cuffing players, and refused to believe its been a feature since PDTH. Dont be like him, he was a fag.

who says that? rust?

Yep.

because youre spraying full auto from the hip, you tard. full auto only for dozer faceplates, semi auto aimed shots for everything else.

yes but even then the Eagle isnt that good imo also i always see it being used as spray and pray and rarely as semi and i dont use it

>I don't get people that like white chocolate more than milk chocolate
>I mean... What the fuck...

"You guys seen Hellboy? Great fucking movie. They should make a third one."

But they will just give away 10k.

The 10k per day is for the best record per day, not the ones who beat some previous record.

If just one loser team joined, then they'll win 10k by default.

I wish jimmy was wearing the outfit from his live action trailer that red shirt was cool

They can bodyshot Cloakers on DW and can do headshot damage by themselves (aka. Low Blow crits kill Titandozers).

They're great.

So the question is: how do they compare to the Throwing Axes?

you can pick them up after a kill they are great to conserve ammo

Meh guns can do that too.

You don't understand, nobody won the last one because nobody finished it. The maps had been modified so you got ten snipers in places you would normally get 2, no cap on the number of specials so you could have 8 cloakers coming at you at a time, walls forcing you to take exposed routes, so on and so forth. This isn't a normal game of deathwish

Well when the alternatives are molotovs, nades, and shurikens, I think they're worthing selecting. Throwables are sall ituational but explosives and molotovs won't be great in many situations where you'd want to throw a javelin to get one special to go away while you're reloading or need to recharge armour.

I know about the special extras they slapped onto the tournament version of Slaughterhouse.

Surprised no-one managed to finish. The yurop record holders were supposed to be at Austin to maintain their champion title.

I'd say they're great for taking out Bulldozers quick when combined with Explosive weapons though, with no skill points needed, or combos with electric melees for quick dispatch of charging Cloakers. Hell, you can even stun a Tazer, throw the stick at him, and not even waste any ammo. They're also decent replacements when you're low on ammo for guns.

I like my mask wall
This took way longer than I thought it would to achieve.

>16 seconds
u fast nigga

>wearing anything other than heat glasses

I have a tiny bit of a snek obsession
and glasses of any type are for nerds

>80 damage so anyone with a full perk deck can kill tan units in one-headshot on Overkill difficulty
>level 0 and really cheap costs so anyone and their mothers can use it as soon as possible,
>can get excellent accuracy (superior to 80),

You'll guess it.

Why don't DLC AI's use the weapons they came with?

Because then Overkill would have to do work. Easier just to
self.sydney.weapon.weapons_of_choice = {
primary = Idstring("units/payday2/weapons/wpn_npc_m4/wpn_npc_m4"),
for everyone.

You'd think it'd be that simple but you're mistaken. Lua codes are buggy and cause crashes. Actual ingame code is much harder to do. Trust the developers to know what they're doing.
;)

Oy vey, that sounds like work, we're already busy making high quality DLC's that players seem to love

Also please ignore this link
forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=12852

Keep those helmets flying ;)

>wanting Sokol to use the Valkyria,

I would prefer to play with some CTV shitters instead.

The Valkyria is a good and viable gun

CTV shitters don't have infinite ammo and downs though.

>crits can kill a skulldozer in 1 headshot
Removed.

Yea I remember when it was

can't you just pop on silent killer?

never

>investing skill points just to make an assault rifle to reach 40 damage,

this is just sad, not even talking about its trash accuracy.

Is it only me or the bikes are just terrible to control on the day one of the biker job ?

Shield

They handle like shit

...

>the professional
>specialized killing
>silenced lmgs
>grinder
I'm having fun with this build and no one can stop me

>not for silenced M1014, Predator 12G or thanatos instead

>Cash.net
Well, at least they're being true to themselves now.

>5.56 rifle
>not particularly compact
>SMG

Why even have primary and secondary categories

>using a heist with mandatory drills for a speedrun competition
luck-based
dropped

I wish they used the first Jimmy from the movie.

Honestly I mostly want the red shirt because then we would have 4 heisters who don't wear suits
If he did then we would have
>Rust
>Jacket
>Bohdi
and jimmy all with no suits