What's /his opinion about the Cambodian-Vietnamese conflict of 1979?

They fucking COOPERATED with Japan when they thought they would just remove Frog but then regretted it when Nip just replaced the French as their masters.

That's because the Chinese view the events of 79 up to the 90's as one whole.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_1979–90

Just look at who is the salty party of the two in the Spratlys debate right now.

I'd agree that the Paracels are China's through right of conquest, and how the North Vietnamese government sent a diplomatic letter acknowledging Chinese claims after the Chinese drove the South Vietnamese out.

Doesn't change the fact that the Chinese failed to force the Vietnamese to withdraw from Cambodia.

>muh saving cambodians meme

You forgot the part where it got buttraped by the French, Brits, and Japs for 150 years straight.

That's because the war wasn't just about Cambodia.

>none of their objectives
Who is the most butthurt right now? That shows you who won in the end.

But they did, just not during that shitshow of a war, but during the 79-90 Border Skirmishes, since China was literally occupying Vietnamese land to pressure them from GTFO out of Cambodia. Again: the Chinks view that whole period as one long war.

And today, Cambodians are still in the Chinese pocket despite the fact that Vietnam removed Paul Potts for them.

>That's because the war wasn't just about Cambodia
Yes, Vietnam aligning with the USSR had brought relations to a low point. But it was still Cambodia that was the impetus for the invasion.

>The Chinks view that whole period as one long war.

Most Chinks I've seen online and offline who've argued that they won were talking specifically about 1979 rather than including the border skirmishes that took place over the next decade.

I'm not denying that Vietnamese are butthurt today, and that that Chinese are still occupying their clay. But if we look solely at the 1979 invasion, then it's clear the Chinks lost. Claiming that the Chinese won cause of how salty Vietnamese are today is like claiming the Japs won WWII based on how they later overtook US manufacturing.

And it wasn't just Chinese pressure that forced the Vietnamese to withdraw from Cambodia, it was worldwide pressure as a whole.

> You have to give Vietnam credit, they're probably the number 1 underdog story of the twentieth century
> of the twentieth century

> B-but 150 years of colonialism!!!

Idiot

They beat Mongol Empire at its height of power too.

>then it's clear the Chinks lost.

Except the historical consensus is clearly a draw.

>Vietnam wasn't a colony 1900-1954
>it wasn't a pseudo-colony until 1975

Vietnam was an occupied colony for the majority of the 20th century.

The Ethiopians get the honor IMO.

This. I despise Communism and leftists in general, but the Vietnamese are heroes for putting and end to the nightmare of the Khmer Rouge. Unfortunately the Chicoms took this as a threat and invaded Vietnam in 1979.

People's Republic of Kampuchea Best Kampuchea

Many people beat the Mongols at its peak.

Beating them once is meaningless.

For example, the Chinese controlled/conquered Vietnam for over a millennia.,

Usually when one country invades your ally you're supposed to defend your ally.

>many
>Mamluk, Viet, Burma, Jap

The latter even got saved by sheer luck.

>For example, the Chinese controlled/conquered Vietnam for over a millennia.

funny, they eventually adopted and used the Latin Alphabet. while China, Korea, Jap are still using the same one.

>eventually adopted

After being thoroughly cucked and colonized.
Is this supposed to be an argument?

>korea
>use the same one

Viets are best Asians tb h

>After being thoroughly cucked and colonized

Same with their neighbors. Don't tell me that China, Korea and Jap did not get cuck or be occupied by foreign powers in their history.

In some ways, it was a culmination of the clash between the Soviet sphere and the Sinosphere. China, beginning to liberalize their economy under Deng Xiaoping, showed that the Soviets were unable to protect their allies; in that respect, the Chinese were victorious. Keep in mind that at this same time, it was becoming more and more obvious to the Soviets that the DRA in Afghanistan was starting to lose control of the country, and the DRA had started to request Soviet assistance, which Moscow was rebuffing. There was some remote, but legitimate, concern that this conflict could escalate to a war between the Soviet Union and China.

>*"this conflict" referring to China-Vietnam border clashes, not the Soviet-Afghan War

Vietnam has possibly the most underrated military tradition of any country on earth. They're really something

Vietnamese here. Cambodians are ungrateful as fuck. We basically saved them from self extermination. In all honesty like other Commie countries, our culture could've been destroyed by Communism but the war and revolution was more based on nationalism. That and we're too rooted in tradition to let it be stamped out by some newfangled ideology.

I'm impressed my country managed to get itself together for a invasion force after such a long and disastrous conflict. China and Cambodia made a bad mistake provoking a country that's been at war for over 3 decades with experienced officers and troops, all willing to fight for their motherland, along with a shitton of leftover equipment from the war.

China was still recovering from Mao's bullshit and had fucked logistics and command structure. China invading and occupying us has always been part of our history but each occupation is shorter than the last. They didn't even occupy us at all in '79 but I fear for the future. China is pretty advanced while Vietnam's military is still stuck in the 70s for the most part.

I kind of wish we expanded more into SEA like what we did against the Chams. A nice powerful Dai Viet would've deterred all those other Chinese invasions.

But not for 1000+ years.

>China was still recovering from Mao's bullshit and had fucked logistics and command structure.

You do realize Deng was trying to discredit the Maoist generals by actively fucking them over, right?

Because China had 5 million soldiers and only sent 200,000 to fight the battle. Guess who got the "honor" of commanding those 200,000 poorly armed fighters?

was China's invasion of Vietnam their version of the USSR invasion of Finland?

No.

At least read first
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

The Vietnamese were the good guys.

Not many times in history could you say that about a bunch of communists or even the western democratic capitalists but there you go... They saved a country from imploding on itself.

>or even the western democratic capitalists

You do realize the West (America) was opposed to do the Viets doing that?

We formed an alliance with the Chinese, and encouraged them to attack Vietnam in retaliation.