Why should the working class fight and die for the utopian vision of some rich white college kid?

Why should the working class fight and die for the utopian vision of some rich white college kid?

Why does the working class need some self righteous college idealist to tell them what to do?

Welcome back, Mao.

Laclau said it best: the goal is to establish a new hegemony

>implying marxism is about morals or "shoulds"

> Why should the working class fight and die
They have nothing to lose but their chains.
> some self righteous college idealist
Someone needs to lead them and better to chose the one who wouldn't do the real job, anyway for more effectiveness.

kek, you will wait for ever then for you hero in his horse leading the revolution. There's no such thing as heroes.

why should a poor man risk everything he has for the extremely small chance a utopian communist society will spring up

> everything he has
He doesn't really has that much and even a small portion of promised Utopia would be good enough.

This thread is stupid. What does "should" mean?

The working man either rises up or he doesn't, depending on his will and the conditions he lives in, there is no "should" about it.

Sitting in an anthropology class in my first year of university I was talking about something to do with socialism.

My tutor made the comment that the middle class makes the completely unfounded assumption that the working class want to be middle or upper class.

They're not 19th century factory workers anymore, their quality of life is not that bad in most cases. What's more they fucking hate you and everything associated with you - especially the attitude that they have nothing in their lives, an attitude you can see on display here

Why should the working class fight for the utopian vision of a rich white college kid instead of fighting for their own interests?

Very ironic that that comment came from an "anthropology tutor", a man about as divorced from the working classes as it's possible to be.

Also you most likely live in one of the richest countries in the world, which isn't really reflective of the experiences of the vast majority of the world's working class.

Also "everyone would be middle or upper class" is probably the most juvenile explanation of socialism I've ever heard. No wonder that tutor doesn't have a proper job.

Communism is in their own interests. They will fight for this if they believe the same thing, they won't if they don't. It's quite simple.

You can't conscript a revolution.

>Communism is in their own interests
How would he know? It's never been tried.

Because I want to control the sale of my labor

>It's never been tried.

What a fucking laugh.

Just because it has a 100% Fail rate doesn't mean "it was never tried."

>100 people leap off a cliff flapping their arms, fall to their deaths
>well, I guess people can't fly by just flapping their arms
>"How do you know? It's never been tried!"

"Hes college educated so he can't know the working class"
t.college educated NEET

Pencil pushers fuck off, you're not working class.

But you do that in capitalism already.
Don't want to flip burgers for minimum wage? Ok, go look elsewhere
Oh what, nobody wants to hire you? Capitalist pigs! I demand a job I'm comfortable with and payment way above its value!

t.internet pencil pushing """"""""scholar""""""""""

I'm working class, not a pencil pusher. Suck my dick suburban kid.

Prove by posting hand with calluses from all that hard labour.

Reminder that Fascism is what communist pretend to be.

Because that self-righteous college guy still isn't as bad as crapitalists.

>Because that self-righteous college guy still isn't as bad as crapitalists.

yes he is because the capitalist actually produces shit and contributes to society instead of just circle jerking with other space cadets.

>yes he is because the capitalist actually produces shit and contributes to society
Name 10 "contributions" of Ayn Rand and Kim Kardiashan to society.

Working people don't have calluses.

People who never worked but had to work once do.

Because otherwise the fuckwits up and do something like make Donald Trump POTUS

>muh celebrity worship!

lol who gives a shit? College kids not only dont produce, but are a drain on society. Either by sucking up money from their parents, or society.

The fact that someone like Kim Kardashian inherited a massive fortune from her father and is dumb is irrelevant to this point

upvoted

Kim Kardashian is the Marx of Capitalism?

This is kind of the same as asking why does anyone need qualifications to do what they want to do, isn't it?