Which nation has most deservedly earned a reputation for cowardice in modern historical times?

That's not cowardice, that's being smart.
If there's anything you can't call italians military speaking, it's cowards. They were Russia tier retarded when it came to sacrificing men.

Okay if you go into a pub with your friends and you get into a fight with another group and they start winning is it okay for your friends to turn around and punch you in the face
I mean it's the smart thing to do right? Joining the winning side isn't cowardly at at all

Italians were known for cowardice the world over long before America started forcing the French surrender monkey meme.

Switching sides is the most cowardly thing you can possibly do.

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Alliences aren't friendships you nigger, they're business alliances.
Are you gonna go down with your business partners if they fuck up? Or are you gonna switch to the competition?

Not just a business alliance, there are notions of national reputation and prestige involved in honouring an alliance. Nations (like Italy) that flip flop opportunistically develop reputations as untrustworthy dogs, and rightfully so

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No one ever cared at the diplomatic level and no one ever will. Only morons who listen to propaganda ever give a shit.

The result is that nobody in their right mind would ally with Italy anymore.

That's not cowardice, that's being smart.

>Switch sides when your allies are losing
>Now both sides know your nation and people are thrustworthy and therefore will be adverse towards forming future alliances with you

Yes, nevermind NATO, who involved Italy since the beginning. Italy is clearly in a situation of diplomatic isolation.

I don't know people are naive as fuck and learn nothing from history.

Look at Afghanistan where a dozen French soldiers died because the French trusted the Italians to not be incredibly spineless cowards.

That's because Italy is irrelevant enough to that can't do that much damage, although it still does, see But I guess the Bush administration either sucks at history or thought the benefits of adding another token country to their coalition outweighed the damage Italy could do.

>people are naive as fuck and learn nothing from history
Yeah dude, everyone is stupid aside from you, believe it.
Your silly honour beliefs aren't naive, naivetè is for governments' strategic alliances.

Italians being cowards with no sense of honour isn't a belief, it's a simple reality demonstrated over and over.

Probably some rich cunt country like the Qataris or something

I don't understand why the French government didn't make more of a fuss about this, that was truly despiscable.

Why are the French so fucking stoic about everything anyway?

>I don't understand why the French government didn't make more of a fuss about this
Because unlike what tabloid rags want you to believe, what the italians did was common practice thrughout the whole alliance, US included.
The french tried to go their own way and they got slapped the fuck down. So what's there to complain?

I can't believe Iraq hasn't been posted.

>Pour tons of US money training and equipping Iraq soldiers to take care of themselves
>The small start of ISIS shows up
>They literally all run away
>THEY DROP THEIR GUNS, GET RID OF THEIR UNIFORMS AND FUCKING RUN
>ISIS gets tons of money, equipment and territory

Fuck Iraq

that's basically cowardice you mong

Holy fucking shit you Italians are the lowest human trash there is.

The Italians were paying the Taliban to not attack them. Since there were no attacks, that zone was classified as low danger, so when the French moved in to replace the Italians, and the Italians didn't even fucking bother telling them about how they had been paying the Taliban to not hurt them like the gigantic gaping pussies they are, the French took no extra precautions. The Taliban, angry about the sudden stop of revenue, retaliated by making an ambush killing 10 French soldiers.

And you actually justify that shit.

I get that you don't care and don't understand any concepts of honour or even human decency, but the reality is nobody in their right mind would ally with a country that will just immediately betray you to the enemy instead of fighting.

All unconfirmed tabloid shit. This is not even propaganda, it's straight journalistic sensationalism, that's how gullible you are.

>nobody in their right mind would ally with a country that will just immediately betray you to the enemy instead of fighting
Kek right, it's not like Italy had lost most of its armed forces already and was being invaded when the armistice happened. They just flipped without fighting. Nevermind the balkans, russia and north africa.

No, it's not "tabloid shit", it was confirmed by both the Taliban and by US intelligence.

And in WW2 the Italians literally just raised the white flag everywhere at the first glimpse of American soldiers. Whole fortresses were abandoned without a fight despite being well equipped for a siege. It was absolutely pathetic.

This wasn't even "cowardice" like the French government signing an armistice and ordering its soldiers to stop fighting, this was literally every single Italian soldier being a spineless coward.

Frogs spotted.

>Americans will believe this

Switzerland, because France does not deserve to be called cowards. Defeatists, easy to break does not mean you ran. It means you tried but stopped trying at some point. This has nothing to do with cowardice imo, it's just a word put there by illiterate burger propagandists that could not think of another adjective.

IIDF spotted

France, obviously.

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France and italy.

wait why france

Der Franzose und Italiener

Because their country got invaded by Germany in WW2 before they were able to get any form of adequate defense up, so they surrendered instead of fighting a slog of a war they would have probably lost and would have gotten a fuck ton of civilians killed.

Because the entire 30s and 40s is just France being full pussy.

>Germans remilitarize the Rhineland, directly violating Versailles conditions, France does NOTHING
>Germans threaten Czechoslovakia, a country France swore to protect, and France literally gives up their allies because "we don't want to fight"
>Germany attacks Poland, another country France swore to protect, the French finally formally declare war but still don't even bother fighting
>at last, France gets invaded by Germany, gets steamrolled and surrenders after a month
>half of France goes under German control and the other half is controlled by a cuck puppet government

Hitler could've been easily stopped in '36 if French weren't such utter pussies.

How is Switzerland cowardly?

Like the England, remember that french went from
the most warmongering nation ever to full pacifist.

If they're neutral, it's because of the french.

>instead of fighting

France signed an armistice after suffering 360 000 casualties, losing Paris, and having to babysit the Brits while they were escaping back to their island.

All of this applies to Britain even more.

>All of this applies to Britain

Not even an Anglo apologist, but please be so kind and remind me when the Brits surrendered

Well they got rekt so hard they swore eternal neutrality... by France.

So considering how pathetic France is, that gives you some idea of how incredibly pussy Switzerland must be.

not him. But you just prove that you have no clue about what you are talking about.

In 1936 it was already clear that France wouldn't be able to win an offensive war against Germany again.

People often forget but Germany at that time had a way bigger population and a huge industry.

During the Munich treaties the French under Daladier in fact wanted a repressive policy against Germany but the Chamberlain refused any assitance. The French had no other choice than appeasement. The only moment they could have avoided this if it they had invaded Germany in 1933 maybe. But if they'd actually had done this, you would be complaining on a filipino imageboard about how the French were such warmongers

And now fuck off from Veeky Forums

You know what's more cowardly than surrendering? Running away and hiding.

The treaty conditions stated that the Brits would move in to protect Czechoslovakia only if the French decided to declare war on Germany, and the French refused.

Italy. No fucking contest.

It's literally the other way around. At Munich Daladier wanted to act but Chamberlain refused, and France couldn't do it alone.

They got rekt at one of the two points in France's existence that they weren't useless, they just declared neutrality because they realized that you can't win a war against superpowers as a small mountainous backwater.

>cowardice

definitely france

>No one ever cared at the diplomatic level and no one ever will.

Do you seriously not think that nobody at a diplomatic level would weigh in the consideration "this nation backstabs its allies all the time."?

>France
>superpower

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Switzerland and Sweden.

Fucking step up and pick a side, you cunts.

By 36 the Germans still weren't in any fighting shape and the remilitarization was a total gamble on Hitler's side as half the German units moving in weren't even armed. The French literally crapped their pants because of Hitler's posturing and bravado.

Ireland

Don't want to die for the British

Don't have the balls to pick up arms and join the Axis.

France obviously (surrenders in every war and waits for the Anglosphere to save their cowardly asses)

France and Britain could have taken Germany. France alone couldn't. And the Brits pussied out.

Wait I thought you meant Munich.

The Rhineland was still a case of everyone saying "we were so harsh with the poor Germans at Versailles, we should cut them some slack".

"If you French had intervened in the Rhineland in 1936 we should have been sunk and Hitler would have fallen." -Heinz Guderian

One step over the French and German border. That was all it would take in 1936.

More like "please Mr. Hitler take what you want we don't want to fight again"

Post-Napoloenic France is just a fucking embarrassment.

It can be both.

Nobody wanted another war AND people acknowledged Versailles was going to cause one if strictly enforced.

The German military expenditure in 1936 was already more than twice as big as the French expenditures. Meanwhile the French military was only focused on defensive.
Now tell me in what world they could have invaded Germany in 1936 ?

You're a dumb fuck

ourworldindata.org/military-spending/

>holing up in your country and defending it for years is worse than literally giving up after a month

Again that was the attitude of Britain even more than France.

The Brits gave up after two weeks and ran away.

someone post that evocative collage of brit posters on /sp/ during the euros

That sounds entirely reasonable

This one?

yeah, kek

Guess who also had strong military in '36
Poland
Guess who would help allies in times of war
Poland

Germany, with eyes towards it's police censorship, social media censorship and mega mohammadian memes

t. Freedom loving yankee

>Guess who would help allies in times of war
Certainly not in 1936

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact

was meant for this retard

Fuck off, Anglo.

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The womb of your woman does not fill itself alone, John

Go preb the bull, now !

>smart
>sacrificing men like Russia

Italy I love you but you can't be on both sides of this, this isn't a world war.

Kinda, but Germany violated Treaty of Versailles, so by logic they should "lost their honor" as a country and other treaties would not matter.

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I'd say Italy or Germany.

France. Get it, funny surrender meme hahahaha

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Israel.

Everything they have done, they done so with the backing and guidance of the United States. If America suddenly decided to end it's military welfare program, you can bet your asses they would be more incline to talk and listen to the Arabs.

That said, the Arabs aren't much better. Without American and to a lesser extent European (cough Germany cough) support Arab and Israeli fights would be less curbstompings and more two cripples in a bitch slapping contest.

It's not that the Polish wouldn't be allowed to join a war against Germany.

It was that Poland wouldn't have been willing to go to war. Otherwise they would never had made a treaty with Germany in the first place

this. there police force outnumbered them and they just ran like bitches

Coalition trained Afghani security forces.

Jesus Fuck they are bottom of the barrel.

t. butthurt pollack/czech

It was easy for the British to advocate for appeasement being an island and all.

Lucky for them they had the English channel so that after getting btfo by Germany they had a place to run to and beg Uncle Sam to save them.

France didn't have that luxury, being right next to Germany and all.

shia soldiers that was led by a sunni fag did this because he ordered them to, he also sent unarmed soldiers into isis land. americans think its a good idea to give sunnis command over shias.

Italy, they deserve it too.

Romania
>WW1
>Attack Central Powers
>Get counter-attacked
>Army literally flees to Moldova, a neutral country
>Sues for peace
>Presented with reasonable terms
>Accepts
>Central powers collapse
>Austria/Hungarian armies still in Romania
>Demanded these armies leave by France
>They do so in good faith
>Breaks peace agreements
>Attacks
>WW2
>Demanded land by Russia
>Okay
>Demanded land by Hungary
>Okay
>Attacks Russia
>Russia kicks their ass
>They turncoat to join Russia's side

Basically the scumbags of Europe, but Italy comes close.

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