ok, ok. Is there any way we can make heavy's % increase? Maybe we could form a group of 24 heavy voters in a casual lobby and farm points off of eachother for the team?
Christian Davis
>No black box It's not even a good bait list
Easton Bennett
>no vitasaw >no black box >no liberty launcher >jarate
Blake Reed
LnL has an argument for MM. Rollers require more skill than is normally present in MM (enemies have to be competent enough to avoid directs, you have to be competent enough to place good rollers, and your teammates have to be able to take advantage of them)
Also Spycicle is definitely a crutch but it's still fun to make Pyros mad.
Hudson Brown
>anime shit
everything you just said in that pic is now invalid
Adrian Allen
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Christian Howard
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Dominic Lee
"THANK YOU" BASED VIVA
Bentley Brooks
nice phone post viva
Liam Edwards
I can phone post if you want but not him.
Carson Evans
I never post without my trip, though. Unless there's technical difficulties like the other day
I would've still needed to wait 90 seconds to post again. That was like 30 seconds
Tyler Adams
Damn..
Jayden Hall
Second series of Australiums when?
Carter Young
What the fuck does the New Enforcer even do.
Always deals full damage against the DDS, Vaccinator, and Battalion's Backup?
Austin Thomas
...
Ethan Campbell
Hopefully never.
Skins, on the other hand...
Christian Garcia
how do people deal with having crouch jump binds, doesnt the constant screen stutter annoy the player
Nathaniel Young
how do people deal with being so bad they need crouch jump binds
Mason Diaz
Australium Brass Beast, Rainblower, and Jarate when?
Joshua Rodriguez
>Booties still suspect after their only useful attribute was removed >Quickiebomb suspect instead of OU with a 50% clip penalty and 15% damage penalty without charging
Nolan Rivera
These balanced teams don't need !scramble or autobalance.
I stopped healing 2 minutes in when my second uber was wasted just like the first when the team rushed back into spawn when it was popped instead of pushing forward. We never even got on the first point while they ubered us off our first point then back capped with two scouts each time.
How is this playable? Also why does it take 10 minutes to find a match with several hundred compatible nearby players and over a thousand empty nearby servers?
Camden Rogers
Dunno why they made it to pierce resist items. I guess it's for if you see a rare DDS Sniper who's low on health, but even then you can stab them, or maybe to make the most out of the one increased damage shot you've got if you're disguised.
My question is why does the Shortstop have that shove now outside of just pushing people around and off points like airblast.
Jeremiah Morales
>get placed on blue team >lose everytime.
Evan Torres
i thought you couldn't disable viewmodels any more, or is that only in mm?
Christopher Nelson
The future you chose, compfags
Brandon Turner
fuck this forced viewmodel joke
Oliver Hall
>join comp game >heavy complaining that valve introduced a map made by a tranny >medic won't heal anyone "until the bigot is gone" >they spend the rest of the match arguing about Black Lives Matter >we lose >rank down
Angel Edwards
I've had almost nothing but good games out of this. The only unenjoyable ones were the ones where my team either stomped the other team way too fast, or where I was put on a bad map, like 2Fort. Most of the time I've had good even matches where everyone tried their absolute best and had a good time all around. My one complaint is that the servers are unstable.
>You can't votekick these people What was Valve thinking?
Benjamin Jackson
i laughed
Chase Sanchez
>implying we give a shit about valve servers >implying this is any worse than what valve servers used to be
Jaxon Sanders
>Gunslinger >Keeps engies from playing at their highest skill level
A gunslinger engie working as a scout who just places minis in annoying spots is objectively better than a level 3 engineer.
Dominic Morales
His anything like strife's hats galore? I need idiotic unusual hat trading news.
William Taylor
the default wrench does not disable the shotgun
Jack Reed
mm only
Landon Cox
Can you still turn off viewmodels?
Jaxson Powell
Heavy made a good point, Medic is a faggot.
Chase Wright
>>implying this is any worse than what valve servers used to be This is significantly worse than valve servers because at least then it was 12 idiots versus 12 idiots and if someone left a new person could join or the teams would just get switched.
Now it's 12 idiots vs 12 idiots and the second someone thinks they're losing it's 4 idiots vs 12 idiots.
Also apparently indexer has shit luck
Gabriel Sanchez
Can you stop being gay?
Michael Fisher
At least I could join that one server that wasn't shit back then Now I can't even do that and i'm NEVER EVER going to see a single cp_steel round from start to finish in the remaining lifespan of the game
Jordan Adams
thanks /pol/
Wyatt Lee
>tfw half of your teammates are dead weights
Zachary Ortiz
But it does:
>Give the Engineer 25 less health (and even less overheal) >Only allow the creation of sentries that take too long to build and will be instantly destroyed before doing anything by any competent player unless you are intentionally building far back and letting your team fight a 5v6 until they're pushed back into your sentry
Justin Rogers
luck has nothing to do with this Back when quickplay was in place all I had to do was press "show servers" and i'd have one to join right away, at any fucking hour
Game is fucking dead now because people don't want to sit in queue for 15 minutes to play one subpar match on a random map
Jacob Cooper
People can join existing games in casual matchmaking.
Luke Rogers
jawohl!
Blake Watson
Really? I've never seen that.
Not to mention having the screen lock down during setup is retarded.
Why did they make "casual" competitive but with more people?
Austin Clark
I'm a heterosexual through and through.. If you can't disable viewmodels anymore that's gay as fuck.
Tyler Rivera
The same reason why LoL ranked is just LoL Normal matches but affect your rank score
Nolan Russell
You're not helping your argument at all here lad. League is a shit game and so is the entire moba genre.
Hudson Martin
>any competent player will instantly destroy a level 1 sentry >oh but they don't do that to mini sentries no that 50 health can tank anything quit playing pubs quit playing pubs poorly
Owen Anderson
>15 minutes it takes less than a minute for me
stop being a whiny little bitch
Noah Lewis
Think of it as reporting furry posters in here, it doesn't do jack shit, but it feels good
Brandon Wilson
youre not a girl :/
Samuel Jackson
It isn't playable unless you play with friends
I get a half afk team and the next match I get two guys who literally admit they are just idling to ruin people's matches
Andrew Collins
if I have to find the one server that isn't in bumfuck nowhere instead of fucking luxemburg servers it's been 3 matchmaking queues and all of them i've been put in a third world server with 200+ ms
15 minutes if i'm lucky
Cameron Bailey
>L1 take too long to build and will be destroyed
>Use mini sentries instead
lol
Jackson Morgan
i keep getting connected to Singapore servers but i live in australia ):
Xavier Roberts
that isnt what you first said then
Isaac Diaz
My point is that the TF2 team just looked at LoL and DoTA and said "that'll work in tf2!".
I wasn't saying it was a good idea, I was saying it was a thoughtless one.
A minisentry actually deploys fast enough to get some shots off and won't be instantly destroyed by every class, even scouts. That's right, it can actually work as a scout counter. Level 1s give a scout way too much time to run up and scattergun it twice.
Isaiah Wright
you're in Eurasia, and they stuck you in a Chilean server...
that is literally on the other side of the world
what's your ms, is it less than 100?
Ayden Rogers
Fuck off muselk
Jace James
FIFTEEN MINUTES
F I F T E E N U C K I N G M I N U T E S
Michael Bennett
>reserve shooter isn't on the list
Josiah Morales
150
it's playable though
if only i could be as epic as him
Mason Ward
>when as a medic you're doing more damage than your entire team jesus
John Martin
Reserve shooter is overpowered, not a crutch.
Even the best player can benefit from FREE (FREE) mini-crits.
Nathan Ross
Honestly I think the reason matchmaking is so shit is partially because of overwatch.
I don't know how much they changed but I'm willing to bet they changed it at least in part due to overwatch (as it seems identical to overwatch's queues)
James Parker
no you are not
Julian Foster
all these retards comparing it to overwatch have never played csgo lmfao
Austin Rivera
ok i lied, only one spy was doing more damage everyone else was a fucking retard who stood still and couldn't destroy a single sentry between four heavies, one soldier and two demos
Gabriel Kelly
>four heavies >1/3 of your team is a useless knife holder
Xavier Bell
if you build a sentry at the mid-fight, it will get destroyed immediately, since the scout, soldier, demo and with the most recent update, medic will all arrive to mid before you do (even moreso because you should deploy a teleporter entrance first thing) so sentries should be deployed in a safer area, where they prevent enemies from getting behind your team or flanking them if you lose mid, the sentry covers your retreat for a time (L1 has more health and covers you for longer) if you win mid, you can haul your sentry and place it in a more aggressive spot, L1 has the benefit of being upgradable, so once placed it can hold the area better
plus if you initiate combat by deploying a sentry, you lose out on time where you could be firing your guns
Josiah Brooks
>the TF2 team checks the win rate of pyro in 6v6 >5% winrate
Parker Smith
seriously, I was healing a demo and he couldn't kill a soldier, so I had to pull out my syringe gun and do it for him
Samuel Reed
what happened to dominations? did they take them out?
Caleb Butler
They still exist, but they only show up on the scoreboard in MM (both modes, casual mode might be a bug)
They work perfectly fine in community servers
Mason Nelson
I finally joined a casual play server just today and I was pretty shocked with what I saw. Team composition, people using voice comms for non-squeaking reasons, people playing the objective, people getting salty and blaming teammates, etc. etc. Not one Hoovy Not one Sniper Not one Spy Not one Ghastly Gibus (though this was probably luck of the draw)
I felt bad for using a market garden + rocket jumper set for the first half.
This just-this isn't TF2. It just isn't.
TF2 was sandvich Hoovies and the Tryhards that preyed on them TF2 was Trolldiers and free-to-play Snipers TF2 was Unusuals top-scoring and inspiring Gibusvisions TF2 was chain-uber Medics and high-five Spies TF2 was Demoknights and Scunts and No-Fungineers TF2 was an ad-free place for relaxing fun Now TF2 is a well-salted competitive arena
Maybe I'm getting too emotional but this...this just isn't TF2. I want TF2 back. If you wanted to play competitively you could start and stop any time you wanted. You took it upon yourself to carry your team to victory. Whether it be with screaming eagles or with white doves, you tried as hard as you wanted and everyone (for the most part) was happy.
I'm not saying the addition of the casual queue is bad. I know some people really like it in-fact and you know what? If you're one of those people good for you! Have a virtual cookie! I could TOTALLY understand someone liking that! But you know what? That's really what the competitive button should have been, and I'm really disappointed in that too.
David Stewart
This is a Reddit post, right?
Carter Ward
>"we don't need a spy on our team" >"but i have the highest score XD" >all his kills were suicide kills on the shitty players on the other team >he didn't even get a single med pick
fucking knifefuckers
Ian Nguyen
Meanwhile on bizzaro /tf2g/..
Michael Allen
I have played plenty of casual matches that weren't like that. God forbid people want to win every once in a while. Pyro OP, demoman needs buffs
William Williams
But pyro IS op
Brandon Bailey
And this is why, despite the glitches and fuckups, this update was great.
Josiah Ross
>add phone number to steam account >verify it >download gay smartphone app for security codes >still can't play competitive mode
Jaxon Morales
Pyro isn't OP, he's just fucking annoying. Like, most of the time you kill them, but when they get to kill you, you feel like it wasn't fair at all, while pretty much every time another class kills you you don't end up with such a feeling.
Daniel Long
>Spy thinks he's contributing >Because he has as many points as everyone else >Even though spys get double points for kills
Isaiah Reyes
you have to wait a week after activating auth
Dylan Richardson
>tfw you find out you can retract the big ramp in tr_walkway holy fuck
Lincoln Scott
I didn't have to wait a single second after doing all that crap went through.
Ryan Jones
So when is Blizzard gonna give us an americium degreaser?
Chase Rivera
Why do I have to spent three hours getting bullshit just to play a competitive hat shooter that doesn't even restrict classes or prune hackers?
This is so dumb it gives me a headache.
Camden Sanders
How do you get this map working again
William Collins
Man, the new update was great!
Bentley Walker
WHEN IS SNIPER GOING TO GET FUCKING BUFFED REEEEEE