Why the ""New Left"" is the worst thing that happened in the last 20 years...

Why does 'the new left' hate white people so much? Serious question

but communism isn't about that it's about workers owning the means of production

because they see the modern age as an opportunity to feel good about being black and punish whities

>sought to implement a broad range of reforms on issues such as civil rights, gay rights, abortion, gender roles, and drugs, in contrast to earlier leftist or Marxist movements that had taken a more vanguardist approach to social justice and focused mostly on labor unionization and questions of social class
>Sections of the New Left rejected involvement with the labor movement and Marxism's historical theory of class struggle

I get the feeling that Veeky Forums is highly commie.

But the new left doesn't give a shit about Marxism. They just care about being gay and shit. Communism is the old left.

Does anarcho-syndicalism count as commie?

you wish

>anarcho-anything
No, it counts as being retarded.

wat?

go to gulag, identarian scum

Well who can argue with that?

Veeky Forums isn't highly commie, Veeky Forums is just contaminated with youtube-educated right wing conspiratorial retards.

>fascist dubs
cummies confirmed for fooling themselves from the start

commies btfo

is it? doesn't seem like

Hardly, it's just that nearly all of the political spectrum lies to the left of alt-right autists.

you might be one, then.

Daily Reminder that the New Left is NOT Marxist

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!
Seriously though, that was an epic cucking. You sure rekt him

Fuck off /pol/

The new left IS Marxist, just not the violent revolutionary kind. That's where you're all confused.

See: Antonio Gramsci. Cultural Hegemony = The modern Identity Politics movement.

tavernkeepers.com/what-did-antonio-gramsci-teach-saul-alinsky/

hahahahahahaha

if you say so, little monkey

Is it part of their flight plan?

I'm not a communist. Far from it as a Finance major with a capitalist portfolio.

HOWEVER, I have a sinking feeling that capitalism will fail once automation becomes good enough to replace millions of low skilled jobs putting out enough people out of work to cause massive deflation that no amount of quantitative easing can fix.

There have been more advances in AI in the past 3 years than the past 30 years for example.

Automated cars will put 6 million truck and taxi drivers out of work.

They all can't go back to school to become robot engineers.

What do?

I suspect society will have to implement Socialism or Communism to deal with the massive unemployment. Not sure how they will affect my portfolio though.

So in other words gibsmedat?

>hahahahahahaha

But you didn't specify any errors. Wait, come baaaack!

Here's the thing, Marx saw that coming 100 years ago. He just didn't realize that capitalists would be as good as they are at delaying the inevitable. His rants on communism are just musings about post-scarcity utopia rather than dystopia. Socialism is the next phase, and he didn't mean just handouts and wealth redistribution (he wasn't against it either though), the fundamental issue was that man could no longer exist on labor alone, and needed more capital than his own two hands alone. A robot for every man woman and child. The only way to fix capitalism is to democratize capital. Which is why socialism is the obvious next step, but you could in theory transition everyone from being a laborer to being a capitalist.

You're a finance major. You should be studying capitalism more than that.

Economists and computer scientists and engineers are clear that is not going to happen

Its not the inevitable, its complutely untrue. Noone well educated on this topic believes that automation is going to do anything but create more jobs than it kills

It's not a conspiracy if they actually write books, dumbshit.

More commie than elsewhere, but there's an equal amount of fascists.

I don't mind desu, nice to have a board that isn't overwhelmingly on one side.

Yes and no. Most robotic engineers do not tout the fact their work will replace jobs.

In the old industrial system things progressed slowly enough so that workers could be retrained or go from industry to service jobs.

However, studies and the rate of technological progress has shown that change is happening exponential (like Ray Kurzweil has said).

Although Ray feels that it will continue to be like the old industrial transition with more job creations due to technology, there are many who feel that automation will replace jobs faster than humans can adjust to the change.

I tend to lean this way because I know that automated cars will be a thing in 5 to 10 years. Google is doing it. All the major car companies are pushing for it (despite Telsa's failures they are still pushing for it).

This alone will push 6 million truck drivers out of work.

What will they do? They all can't go back to college or work at Wal Mart or McDonald's.

Which I also feel because of the raise in minimum wage to $15 (if democrats win), the company owners will push for automation and decrease their workforce (through more food automation and self checkouts).

Explain to me how this will not be the case?

I have a feeling I need to look for a big short position once this causes massive deflation.

The board feels like there's a stronger presence of the right than there was at its inception, but post quality has also gone down as well.

However I don't think the two corelate considering the board has also gotten considerably faster in pace.

>Noone
Who is Noone and what is he well educated about?

Face reality. Machines thus far have been able to displace people doing specialized tasks. The reason why people have not been completely displaced is because people are just better general purpose thinkers and general purpose laborers than robots. There are things people do better than robots. There's the other consideration that robots at a certain level take more man-hours to produce than man-hours saved, making them uneconomical.

The tipping point is when general purpose robots and general AI start doing everything better than humans, as well as being cheaper, including the construction of new robots. At that point, feeding a human for labor becomes an opportunity cost, making a human worthless as a laborer. This is basic economics.

I doubt it's going to happen in my lifetime, but in the next millennium, it's a serious consideration. Those people you claim are educated are saying it's not yet the end of labor market based economics, at least not any time soon.

Oh yeah, I forgot how Ayn Rand is part of a global conspiracy to kill all white people.

She actually wrote books, dumbshit.

>right wing
>quality

oxymoron kek

>proving my point

>outing the fact you're from /leftypol/

I wish this board was still modded.

There seems a desperate push to turn it into blue /pol/.

This thread is openly a tread about modern politics, it has no place on the board for history and abstract humanities and philosophy.

Marx's ideal of communism was post-capitalistic.

We can already see the effects of overabundance of manpower which creates an inflation of university degrees and majors, where most of the money goes to entertainment and capitalists trying to float this because they can make ridiculous amounts of money while having access to an evergrowing worker base in a race to bottom, it will only get worse as population and automation increases. Capitalism will collapse, unless you want a dystopia of corporate empires trading people like commodity or bond instead of workforce, which already begun in the internet.

I'm sure Marx didnt see that coming. He never even heard about electronic computers (1940s) or automation(1946).

>The board feels like there's a stronger presence of the right than there was at its inception
Not really, the only thing that might give this impression is there are a lot of autists here who shamelessly parade around Capitalism like it was the Gospel and start/derail 90% of "socialism/communism" threads.

lol you're being ridiculous here. sure, there will be some neW kinds of jobs but by which mechanism does replacing human labor by machine labor actually increase the amount of human labor?

The net result is a decrease in job.

The whole reason an owner invests in machinery is ultimately to decrease his labour force.
If it didn't work then no one would be innovating machinery you moron.
They aren't being created faster than they are disappearing

>not being a regular denizen of /leftypol/

Communism threads have always been derailed by people posting comics. I see the board changing more by the caliber of threads being posting.

For example, there's always a constant "what did Pinochet do wrong?" thread or people discussing modern politics rather than history.

>by which mechanism does replacing human labor by machine labor actually increase the amount of human labor?

The increased efficiency lowers prices, meaning consumers have more money, creating greater demand and hence more jobs.

Welcome to economics 101.

>automation
Automation is literally one of the things he complains about in Das Capital. Why are you so retarded?

This only applies when people can do jobs that can't be done by machines.

Eventually the only job is going to be owning robots, and if you don't own a robot you're not going to find a job owning a robot.

Yes but people have to work to earn money currently, if they can't work because machines are doing the jobs, they won't have money to spend. There needs to be a basic income implemented at the very least but imagine trying to pass that amongst capitalist-brainwashed Americans who think giving away money is literally worse than death.

exponential change is a meme.

It only rigorously applies to microprocessors from 1965 to 2025 maybe.

General technological and social change cannot really be measured objectively, so all we are left with is a subjective impression. And in the 1st world change was greater between 1945-80 than 1980-today (except for computer technology).

I think atm no one can foresee the speed or the extent of automation. But it is possible that many will be lost to automation. And it is not clear how to create new jobs.

I'm interested, is Ray well known in the finance community?