/k s p g/ [REDACTED] Shady Practices General

It's all a sham edition

>Can the game be considered a full release?
No, for all intents and purposes, KSP should be considered still in early access state. The game is nowhere near being able to stand on its own legs both from a gameplay perspective (career mode is definitely not ready and balanced) and a stability perspective. There are still major bugs and memory leaks that shouldn't exist on a finished game.

>Are there big issues with the game?
Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta. Ask in thread for details.

>What are the devs doing?
Modified versions of popular mods are being included in the stock game while the game engine is being upgraded to its latest version. The most recent update (1.1) was supposedly going to bring a complete overhaul of the GUI, be 64bit friendly, have a refined physics/heating/aero model and generally perform better. While achieving some of these goals, the game is now more unstable than ever, with many users being unable to use the game at all. An external team with heavily questionable experience (Flying Tiger Entertainment) is being tasked with porting the game to PS4, XboxOne and Wii U, with a release deadline that seems to keep slipping.

>Should I buy the game?
KSP is very enjoyable at first, then it usually needs to be modded to retain some sort of longevity, but doing so may dramatically increase the instability of the game. You will be very familiar with the word "Oops!". The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics. The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you should torrent the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=JVZGxQanOQ4
youtube.com/watch?v=BY6uZPvgBqQ
pastebin.com/11ESnTdE
kerbalspaceprogram.com/
dontdothisto.me/games/iamabadperson/
dropbox.com/s/atzhizfw7pxjdoa/RLA_ProbeParts.zip?dl=0
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/50701-c
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/4-add-ons/
spacedock.info/
imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0
imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg
ksp.olex.biz/
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/87463-1
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/
pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY
i.imgur.com/dJQEXBX.png
fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if
spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html
eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/
raceintospace.org
abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz Aldrins Race into Space.html
youtube.com/watch?v=E0a0iQJNgOU
youtube.com/watch?v=z3PtI-ljZAU&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=jaRsJvZgg2s
youtube.com/watch?v=gzI2Fd2DSzs
myredditvideos.com/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Previous thread:
>Trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=JVZGxQanOQ4

>Dev Stream:
youtube.com/watch?v=BY6uZPvgBqQ

>FAQ
pastebin.com/11ESnTdE

>Game site
kerbalspaceprogram.com/
dontdothisto.me/games/iamabadperson/

>KSP mods
dropbox.com/s/atzhizfw7pxjdoa/RLA_ProbeParts.zip?dl=0 (RLA probe parts, /kspg/ exclusive)
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/50701-c (forum mod list)
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/4-add-ons/ (mod subforums)
spacedock.info/ (community mod repository)

>Flags
imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0

>Party-approved rendezvous and docking tutorials
imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg

>Some useful calculators
ksp.olex.biz/ (phase angle calculator, for planning trips to other planets)
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/87463-1 (deltaV map)

>Official forum
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY
i.imgur.com/dJQEXBX.png

>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>List of IRL launches.
spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

>View from the ISS:
eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/

>Race Into Space
raceintospace.org

>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz Aldrins Race into Space.html

BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Take On Mars, Project CARS, ULA posting, Aurora, TRUMP 2016, and planes are also welcome ITT.

kspg.sytes.net

NOTE: "kerbal" anywhere in the OP as well as "kspg" in the subject cause the thread to autosage. Please use [REDACTED] in place of these terms when making a new thread.

false parallelograms everyone

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goodnight /kspg/

don't let the thread die again

>page9
Well, it's already dead.

ded

ded

youtube.com/watch?v=E0a0iQJNgOU

>still no mod for station parts in RO

TRUMP 2016

DELETE ALL FOREIGNERS

I remember this game.

you should forget it before you depress yourself

Gotta think about the good times friend, get you through the dark.

Mexicans can't smuggle away your good times

Old school docking.

TRUMP WILL MAKE KSP GREAT AGAIN

Goooooood morning /kspg/

this thread is a microcosm of my life

i just want it to end already

But we love you user!

And you're here forever.

>euros still letting threads die

your posts are exhausting to read

Know what's exhausting? Trying to stay in shape during the summer here.

>Too hot to run when the sun is up.
>Too dark to run at night.
>Only good time is right at dawn.
>That means waking up early.

I've gained 7 pounds D:

it's like i'm talking to a customer service rep or something. can you show a range of emotions for once instead of this saccharine manufactured shit? don't get me wrong, yuri, i don't hate you and i'm not MAN but i mean it when i say your posts are exhausting.

Then don't read them.

Maybe I've spent too much time in retail?

Why don't you go to a gym then?

Not him, but why do you even post here? We know you intentionally spammed our general, and you've done a bunch of other deceptive things... you don't fit in, you're not part of the crowd. You haven't really earned a right to post here.

>deceptive things
>right to post here
god your meme buzzwords are retarded

yuri please disregard prior criticism, as long as this "person" posts in the general nothing you do is even remotely problematic in relation

I don't want to pay out the nose for a gym membership that I would only use for maybe three months out of the year. Plus, I really am not a fan of running inside on a treadmill. I love the fresh air!

Kind of the wrong way to look at things. We shouldn't be encouraging somebody going out of their way to identify themselves for no reason. Everybody else has the courtesy to write in a style that isn't instantly identifiable.

that's not true though, your binder of forced memes and buzzwords are all immediately identifiable. you have so much more in common with yuri than you think.

>you

Angry user, stop assuming everyone who disagrees with you is MAN

Now, let's all watch this video about the making of KSP

youtube.com/watch?v=z3PtI-ljZAU&feature=youtu.be

AND SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YURI

I'm not MAN, though, or whoever you were talking to before.

Bee Movie 2 when?

>forcing ksp again
yeah no let's talk about you and how similar you are to yuri. you both spammed the thread with your forced memes, ignored all valid criticism because one or two posters would post something vaguely neutral that you interpreted as support, and you both tried to make yourselves the center of attention at all times.

the difference between you and yuri is that yuri wizened up and stopped spamming. when will you stop?

I posted a trailer to a live action movie and said it was like KSP. Is that really forcing ksp, or are you just reaching for something to be Angry about?

This, desu.

It's not even like I dislike you in general, Yuri, but you've really gotta stop sounding so artificial.

>earned a right to post here
I'm 99% you just exist so that you can say things vaguely agreeable, then make me look bad by extension for agreeing.

Also, earning a right to post is the stupidest possible way of explaining the concept. Anyone can post at any time, when issues arise it's more that you've worn out your welcome than you've failed to earn a right to post.

This place is disturbing now

I'm not trying to sound 'artificial'.

I'm not trying to sound anything. All I'm doing is posting.

Thanks, Angry user

No one forgets how you introduced yourself to this general.

Should I link it so everyone can see how you flooded us with spam the only week in Squad history when they were accepting feedback? Do you honestly expect us to believe that was a coincidence?

>I'm not trying to sound 'artificial'.
It's what you do, trying or not.

Try *not* to sound artificial. Try to post like a normal user instead of a (stealing the analogy) customer service rep.

If you want a really simple first step: Stop using emoticons unironically. We're not on Gaia.

Fuck off with this implied conspiracy bullshit. The spam was inconveniently timed, but it was a coincidence and was encouraged by at least one other equally culpable user. It serves as an indicator of poor judgement, not sheer evil.

MAN, piss off. Not a single person here cares about your personal crusade.

>/kspg/ - shitflinging general

being dead is better than this trainwreck.

This is barely a derailment. You should've seen some of the Eschedes we've had before

My personal crusade? I was just agreeing with the user complaining about Yuri

>inconveniently timed
I'm sure.

The fact of the matter is, Yuri repeatedly reduces the quality of conversation to a personal level every time she posts, and that seems to be her only objective and reason to be here.

That's not normal. Unless you're Maxmaps and want to distract from the flaming console turds, which we should be rallying support against, but we're not.

Because we're talking about Yuri

Again.

>yuri is vain
>ergo she's actually maxmaps conspiring to prevent our crusades
>because nobody is ever naturally vain

keep your belittling for yourself m8

pls stop starting shit MAN
and you stop whiteknighting faggot

i'm not whiteknighting. vanity is not an attractive personality trait.

but if anything it provides an alibi: not a conspiracy but a cockup

>I'm 99% you just exist so that you can say things vaguely agreeable, then make me look bad by extension for agreeing.
it's not just that, MAN is literally the only reason yuri is tolerated so well here. his ridiculous crusade to "unmask" her as a shill just makes her look good. i'm exhibit A for that considering I was just calling yuri out before MAN stepped in and reminded me that yuri isn't nearly as cancerous as he is.

>Yuri repeatedly reduces the quality of conversation to a personal level
It's quite possible this is unintentional, and while an effort should be made on her part to make her posts less identifiable it's ultimately not proof of a conspiracy. At best, a damaging apathy.
>her only objective
Why must she have an objective? Why does everyone have an objective to you?

>which we should be rallying support against
So do it. Form an army. You seem to expect other people to do your work for you. You are the "I'll be the idea-guy!" of a co-operative effort. You think you'll do the easy bit of spamming pre-made copypasta and taking the credit while everyone else will do the hard work of figuring out the tone to take on le reddit and forums and directing events without being banned.

Maxmaps has no reason to care if KSP goes down at this stage. If he's the cunning operator you pretend he is, he's already cashed out.

just stop. stop contributing to this infighting.

i see talking about how shit this general is and how you niggas want to have good times again but you niggas are just pouring more fuel into the fire. y'all seriously need to start thinking if these arguments in every fucking thread really bring a net positive to this general. jesus.

dumb niggaposter

If we never discuss things, nothing ever gets done and problems fester away until they become proper shitstorms.

Better to lance the boil.

Fuckoff Angry user

Yuri Adds Nothing

stop.

Only changing up my writing style from the last one you knucklefuck.
there is no discussion, only shitflinging. the same topics. the same arguments. the same posters even. nothing got done in the last months, dont you see it? and if this course is held nothing will ever get done and /kspg/ will never move away from this shit. Can you seriously say that we all haven't argued more than enough at this point?

what do you want to talk about, dumb niggaposter?

Angry?

I'm pretty chill today, kind of tired actually.

I wish I could show you guys what a bimbo I'm currently encountering

open toed heels. bouncing tits in a jaguar bra barely obscured by a bright yellow too. Skinny as a stick but still an ample ass. Huge hoop earrings and an anna Kendrick look but more tan

...

anything that aint just some inane regurgitation unowmsayin. don't want to assume control of the whole thread, lets see what dem smart anons come up with.

i'm just asking because if it's not shitflinging it'll just be more boring ksp pics and eventually a dead thread t͏bh fa͏m s͏mh

We managed some discussion yesterday without much issue. The real problem is people stirring shit up and baiting each other like idiots.

ok max

>lets see what dem smart anons come up with.
[archived]

shieet man. dpends wat all y'all be wanna talkin bout. What about SLS? Mars/Venus base? Shuttle? That new (androgynous?) docking port the Dragon capsule recently hauled to ISS? Don't know what the majority here is interested here desu senpai.

he doesn't like my pichurs ;_;

>mk1 capsule on a rover
no fucking wonder

though the attachment is rather clever.

it was a heady time alright, the future was bright.

WE DIDN'T KNOW

SLS should really have a white paint job desu. STS looked much better with white paint.

>fedora asks me for cigarette
>pretend he doesn't exist

>tfw meds have been taken
youtube.com/watch?v=jaRsJvZgg2s

press F to pay respect

youtube.com/watch?v=gzI2Fd2DSzs

F

he btfo'd welfare bunnies and fucked ugly interns and didn't afraid of anything

>emiliano gonzalez
>waco(?)
>wtc bombing
>Oklahoma City
>Thatcher(?)
>Bosnia(?)
What did I miss/get wrong?

D
(for disrespect)
Fuck you and fuck your ""Third Way"", asshole.

actually it's impossible not to be charmed by Bill's personality, but still: FUCK the ""Third Way"" and may all proponents of it burn in hell. Except Tony Blair, he's going to super hell over Iraq.

lefties on suicide watch

it might be a broken window fallacy, but bush and blair did nothing wrong in iraq. bombing brown people creates hundreds of thousands of jobs like mine and an endless stream of entertainment as the arabs try more and more desperate tactics to un-JUST themselves

Blair did everything wrong on Iraq.

Even if you believe the invasion itself was justified, British involvement in the face of massive public opposition was a ridiculous decision. For every 200 missiles fired by America, Britain tossed in one, and as a result painted a fuckhuge bullseye on itself.

I hear what you mean, but is it possible to dial down the cynicism a level or two and believe all those gunships and jets and aircraft carriers and satellites can serve a dual purpose as the lifesaving force of the world? I know we do already, but it should have happened in Iraq. We should have entered peacefully but forcefully and dethroned Saddam, but instead we went with "forcefully" and demanded peace after occupying.

Hussein was a pretty cool guy :-I

what you're advocating would stabilize the middle east though, when US policy is explicitly trying to keep it unstable and divided so it can't leverage its oil wealth like it did during the OPEC embargo. peace for peace's sake isn't in everyone's interests. it never will be. it's not sustainable, and pursuing it is just a timesink that makes people feel good.

again, don't disagree, except about who's interest it is in to keep things destabilized. I think the US is just part of the mechanism. Concentrated wealth has a significant reason to protect itself, and it has taken the '99-'00 transition as the rallying cry to redefine the world in terms more agreeable to them, and they haven't experienced an ounce of meaningful resistance.

oh you're arguing from a socialist perspective. i don't disagree that the rich are a threat to us. i just realize that the "1%" here is only one ruling faction competing globally for dominance. they're relatively benign in comparison to what life might be like under a consolidated chinese hegemony. when they act against foreign countries, they're acting in our interests by keeping external threats weak. what should really worry us plebs is when they collaborate with foreigners to more efficiently shit on us.

I misread your post and wrote a long rant. I just deleted it.

The part I don't agree with is that government is inherently corrupt, inefficient and evil. I think that's a demonizing portrait that's been painted by corporate interests over the last century and now as the people lose faith in parts of it, life imitates art.

I think it's possible to restore justice and order. But it won't be tidy.

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>The part I don't agree with is that government is inherently corrupt, inefficient and evil.

This. Government is best looked at as a creature. It wishes nothing more than to perpetuate itself, to survive, and to maintain itself and the society upon which it is based.

The issue is, people within a given government can twist those mechanisms to their own gain, and exploit them to maintain their profits.

>I think it's possible to restore justice and order. But it won't be tidy.

No means, aside from violent revolution, will unseat the injustice and disorder of modern Western governments - regardless of the ideology you subscribe to. And the problem with violent revolution is twofold - no ideology survives first contact with the real world, and violence can only breed more disorder and injustice.

humans are greedy and lazy and spiteful. by extension, our institutions are too. by institutions i mean both government and business since their upper echelons are the same people. that's definitely not corporate propaganda as governments have been demonstrably evil since before capitalism.

i don't think justice has ever existed in appreciable measures, and i don't think order has ever been sustained without an oppressive class structure to enforce it.

i know one of the core tenets of socialist, leftist, or otherwise utopian ideologies is that human nature can be changed to be more virtuous, but i haven't seen any evidence that that's actually possible in the long term so i'm not buying into it. barring that, i don't see any reason to pursue a more just society.

>like it did during the OPEC embargo
So why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia and behead the Saud family?

I'm not kidding. I'd back anyone promising to take us on that adventure.

We the people are part of the process. Nature balances itself out eventually.

There will be something that triggers a change. But perhaps not in our lifetimes.

No MNCs on Mars!

good question. america might be powerful but it's not omnipotent. i could imagine that toppling the saudis would have too many potential negative consequences for it to be feasible, since their money is everywhere. chances are that western politicians and saudi royalty are too busy colluding to have a war.

nature is cruel, and the only thing a "balanced" natural environment promises is eternal drudgery and misery for the things living in it. i don't think that thought should comfort you.

So this is the power of Realism Overhaul... woah.

GIVE ME MY FUCKING STATION PARTS stratochief66

that was fast. do we have a janny visitor?

>that blur
ayy

so fast the archive didn't even catch it, what was it?

a snek wishing us a good morning

pathetic. it's gotta be the same guy since 2014.

Haha, get botted nerd

picture of a fish

Very well.

picture of a 15 year old japanese girl in a skimpy maid outfit holding up a tray of lewd sex toys and blushing

Would KSPG fugg Hillary Rodham Clinton?

hi only friendly regular in this general