Neutral, or clutch + first gear?

Neutral

Once it's green then clutch and first gear and go

And you've just proven you've never worked on a clutch.

Not all pressure plate leave open enough space to where the fly wheel ISN'T touching the clutch plate.

If it just turned red, neutral and release clutch

If its about to turn green, press clutch and put it in 1st

Not hard

Derp
I was just going to say this lmao

>if I hold the clutch in I'll fuck up the throwout bearing
>if i put it in neutral I'll put unnecessary stress on the clutch
>if I have the start/stop on I'll put unnecessary stress on the starter motor

Fuck Veeky Forums.

This.

Veeky Forums's philosophy is to not drive your car because you will wear it out and have to replace items

just dont drive, and your car will outlast you

>user stop driving your car
>you'll put miles on it REEEEEEE

B-but letting your car sit fucks it up as well, WHAT DO I DO?

dismantle it

ride the bus

Bye bye resale value.

remantle it

>don't drive your car
>keep it parked all the time
>never sell it to kids that walk by

>you are now the boomer

Just leave it in D with one foot on the throttle and one on the brake.

>dismantle it
>remantle it
>ride the bus
>don't even buy the car

not that difficult

make sure youre pressing very hard on both the throttle and brake pedals while doing this

>leave it in neutral until the cars to the left/right stop
>put it in first

>clutch + first gear?
Why is the clutch part necessary? Can't you just leave it in first and press gas when it's time to move?

...

Name one.

This actually made me laugh. Good bait, user.

Neutral. As soon as the pedestrian light turns red, cluth in and 1st gear in.

As a learner I would leave it in first because I was worried I'd take off too slow, but after a few months I began leaving it in neutral when I wasn't moving.
Here one that will separate the faggots from the faggots
>4th gear, ~65km/h
>red light ahead
Do you change down a gear or go straight to natural and roll to a stop?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

>better take the bus today in case I run into any red lights

Wonderful.

So I'd own a kit car?

Downshift for engine braking.

what if
neutral + clutch

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>not clutch + reverse

I just push the brake pedal because they invented something that handles all the gear shifting automatically and I am not a child

>they invented something that handles all the gear shifting
You have to use a artificial brain because you don't have one?

Oh I get it, you're one of those people who write everything out longhand because you think using a printer is less fun and gives you less control over the document?

If I found writing by hand as much fun as a manual, then I would

>not scaring the people behind you with backup lights
It's pretty fun.

>stall

clutch in, reverse, and handbrake only

maximum keks

>stalling by having the clutch in on neutral

what the fuck man

>20 seconds

You would leave your clutch in for up to 20 seconds?

Depends on the light
clutch + 1st if it's a really quick changing light or it's an intersection I'm familiar with and I know I'm about to get a green
neutral for anything else

lmao that's some next level shit

kek

First+brake+accelerator
Smoke out everyone behind me

Neutral because this fucking aftermarket clutch hurts my foot if I clutch in for longer than 10 seconds.

D

On a motorcycle they tell you to always keep it in 1st at a light so you can quickly get away if something comes from behind. Do you not do this in a car? Why would it be okay for a bike?

well on a bike the guy skidding to a stop behind you is more likely to kill you than in a car. also the way the clutches operate are different. motorcycles often have wet clutch. not sure if there's any wear when you hold in their clutch for longer periods on bikes

Interesting. Thanks!

You have to estimate time, sometimes it takes for ever once the red in the other directions and then turn green in your direction.

Better to be ready to go then have to panic and stall.

My F150, My S10 all had touchy clutches

Besids there isn't anything pushing the clutch plate back off the fly wheel when the pressue plate is released so youll still have it spinning at a different speed from the flywheel

Which causes what? Glazing, glazing causes slippage and early clutch death.

In my experience most throw out bearings last much longer than clutch plates themselves although its still a good idea to replace them while you're in there.

PT loser.

the clutch mechanism is different on a bike, no diaphragm spring or bearing to worry about. That said it can also be a bitch to hold that lever for awhile, so I put it in neutral and let out the clutch when there's a car stopped behind me

I never preselect my gear. Is this a thread for learners? Because it's a bad habit to develop.

At any rate, who says you have to blast off the line the instant the light turns green?

carb problems it sounds like

Heel-toe 4-3-2-1 in quick succession.

Alternatively, brake until idle rpm and shift into neutral

Nice

Spotted the faggot.

Neutral and roll to stop, leave it in neutral until the lights about to turn green

Isn't going straight into neutral and roll stopping bad?

It depends on the vehicle.

My daily drive has a fuel cut mod so you have to keep a foot on the clutch or accelerator to maintain idle. If I'm expecting long idle times I switch it out.

uh no

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

Calligraphy is still a thing you know

Yes, you will fail your license test of you do that. For a good reason too.

Stay in gear till rpms reach 1100-1500ish then decide if I want to downshift

Do you heel-toe when you exit a highway?

Yes, unless there's a lot of traffic. It's good practice.

>car: Neutral
>bike: In gear + clutch

I feel like it would take me the time of the light to get the damn thing into neutral. when the bike isnt running its easy to find but once its running it gets sucked into 2nd from first.

>float gears down to 1st
>pull handbrake and burn rubber because fwd
>release handbrake when light turns green and launch into a hektic burnout

clutch + first gear + 4000 rpm until green light

First gear and clutch in if I'm first im line, otherwise neutral.

it's threads like these that whittle out the bus riders.

Donuts in the intersection until the light turns green.

>bike
If I feel it's going to go green soon, clutch and first gear.
If I know I just missed the green and the intersection will do a full cycle before it's my turn, neutral and play my fuel tank as a bongo.

>Tfw I would always just slam down on the clutch and brake.
>Get to the stop, put it in first or second if I was still rolling or not.
>Take off the clutch and continue on
>Wonder why my fucking clutch is burnt up after I was driving so smoothly for those 10k miles

So trash vehicles?

This. I honestly don't know why there's so much debate about this issue on Veeky Forums considering the wear a clutch suffers from being stood on is minimal compared to the wear it and the rest of your drive train suffers from a high rpm dump, which Veeky Forums claims to do all the time.

this
I feel like an F1 driver when I'm doing this in my shitbox

>20 seconds
U wot

5 seconds max

ah o.k., I asked as I have had a few manuel cars with over 200,000m and the original clutch was holding fine. One was xj that was used for towing about once a month.

Now I will put into neutral if i'm not first at the light, but previously had always kept it in first.

I always downshift to 3rd for engine braking and shift into neutral once I go below ~1k

>car jumps and then goes into driving normally
>the guy behind always thinks I'm going to stall so he hangs back
I hate it when people in BMWs or Mercedes are right up your ass when you've came to a stop.

Neutral + break. I shift in first when the crossing street/road turns red.

Neither, I'm not a city dwelling cuck.

Writing by hand is a pain in the ass. Driving manual is easy.
Writing by hand is much slower than a printer. A car with a manual is slightly faster than its auto counterpart.
Writing by hand is boring as shit. Driving manual is fun.

Nice analogy though. Really spot on.

Brake + Gas

It's not terrible, but yeah. It puts extra wear on your brakes since you aren't engine braking, and it's kinda dangerous to be coasting in traffic in neutral.

"I'd rather put wear on my engine, clutch, trans, instead of my brakes."