So I want a Ram 2500 6.7 w/ manuel. Since it'll be a daily my primary concern is mileage. The problem is I would need it to make 19 mpg just to cost me the same as my current (gas) daily in $/mile. Most reviews I've read only see 12-15 mpg without towing anything. Companies that make delete (egr/dpf) kits claim I can get closer to 20 with their kits, and tuners claim 20-25.
Would those numbers be a realistic expectation for daily mixed city/highway driving? Is it feasible to do a delete, and get 2 reliable tunes (one performance, one mpg) + whatever additional parts for less than $1000, and hit at least 20mpg daily?
Also will aforementioned performance tune/mods make the truck blow smoke? I'm okay with a small puff on a downshift, but I don't want to roll coal everywhere.
Get a Hemi truck with cylinder deactivation. Unless you need the massive tow rating the diesel really isn't worth the extra initial purchase costs and extra maintenance costs.
Jose Ward
>buying a newer vehicle to save money shiggy diggy.
Samuel Hall
I would love to get a V8 truck and call it a day, but the only trucks made with a stick in the last decade are gas V6s (which I have), stripped down 4-cyls (which I don't want), and the 2500 Cummins.
Chase Jackson
The 6.7 gets shitty mileage without full deletes, which are "Technically" illegal. If your area has any kind of inspections, you won't get a 6.7 to get that kind of mileage.
Will it get decent mileage when deleted and tuned? Yeah, sure. Is it worth the extra grand? That's up to you. If you want a newer truck then it's your only real option. If you're okay with an older truck...
The 5.9 however, with conservative driving, will.
2007 was the last year of the 5.9, and trucks were switched to 6.7s halfway through the 2007 model year.
I'm hunting for a 2007 right now.
Anthony Clark
Doesn't have to be newer; 2011+ will work fine.
Oliver Flores
I live in Louisiana. I don't think we have that strict of inspections huh? Definitely nothing close to Cali.
Austin Miller
Pls don't get a Mega Cab
I'm not sure when they stopped doing manual in the V8 trucks. I thought they still did but perusing the Ram website looks like I'm mistaken.
Cameron Long
5 speed 5.2 v8 $1725 20+ mpg epa can suck it
Nathaniel Jones
>5.2 >20+mpg Liar.
Owen Wright
The Colorado was offered with a V8 and manual until 2012 I believe, but they're fucking impossible to find.
Carter Flores
but why
megacabs so neat.
Yeah fuck it then. Just make sure to read up on the 6.7. It has a few issues but nothing that major as far as I know. Once the deletes are done it's not a crazy big deal. Stock clutch blows.
Charles Evans
It's not going to save you any money. It might save you a little at the pump but maintenance will cost more and it has def which is another expense every 5k miles. If you want it for the power or capability that's one thing but it won't save you money.
Gabriel Smith
Believe what you want I guess - that's with idling around in 4th a lot. Benefits of a stick.
Jace Gray
I want it because I want a vehicle that's >truck/SUV >not a gas 4 or 6-cyl >manuel >2010+
What would I be looking at maintenance wise, if I do oil changes myself? $50 every 5k miles doesn't seem like a major expense for DEF.
Ian Stewart
>What would I be looking at maintenance wise, Diesel engines with Manual trans will outlive you. The driveline is the problem.
Jaxson Morris
Why not a legendary 5.9 cummins? or a 7.3 powerstroke? What does a newer vehicle get you? More expensive shit that fails. Throw in an aftermarket radio for aux and you're good.
Gabriel Brown
>powerstroke Come on now, do you hate him or something?
Nathan Sanders
I had a 5.2. It was an auto but I seriously never got near 20 mpg.
Chase Rodriguez
I love manuals but manual full size trucks are kinda pointless? They can easily go 600,000 without any issue
Robert Stewart
Nope, V8 didn't get the manual.
Christian Jenkins
I agree a modern full-size truck with a manual is kind of silly, but I can't get a midsize truck that fits my requirements anymore.
Julian Rivera
>not respecting the 7.3 kys kid.
Noah Murphy
I respect shit that works
Matthew Martin
Thanks, I was misinformed then.
Jaxon Mitchell
The automatic trans wasn't the greatest but the engine is mostly bulletproof.
Hudson Thomas
>manual full size trucks are kinda pointless How so?
Jordan Bell
Why don't you stop being a poorfag and get a bmw x6
Connor Martin
Can you tell me why you would need a manual in the first place? I love manuals but these full size trucks don't even need it
600,000 miles with little to no service even dealing with heavy loads? The manuals on these full size trucks are nothing compared to commercial vehicles
I don't get the "don't need it" statement. Please explain your reasoning behind this. Manual in a full size is good for several things the most important of which is being able to regulate engine braking fully.
Jaxon Moore
Having a manual on these trucks are just shit
John Howard
That's his decision to make
Mason Reed
>Manual in a full size is good for several things
In other applications but the manuals on these full size trucks are shit. You will ruin the clutch multiple times in 600,000 miles; more on heavy or light usage
Gabriel Ortiz
>You will ruin the clutch multiple times in 600,000 miles Who cares? You can slam shift those gearboxes all day long.
Brody Young
>n other applications but the manuals on these full size trucks are shit Explain to me what you think the difference in a dry clutch manual commercial vehicle is vs a dry clutch manual in a full size truck
Austin Kelly
But it's boring? It's not a proper commercial stick shift.
Liam Flores
Beefier internals and more gear choices
Camden Morgan
>But it's boring? That's not really the point. These drivetrains will work for decades on factory parts. Ram slushboxes will go for about 160k miles. My dad is about at 130 and it's starting to give out.
Jace Harris
Uuuuuuuuuhm
Chrysler transmissions.
Manual or nothing. The automatic transmissions do not hold up in the diesel trucks.
Jaxson Bell
>These drivetrains will work for decades on factory parts.
Decades? For towing? You are going to burn the stupid thing especially on grades
>Ram slushboxes
You are confusing the shitty 42RLE for the robust 6.
Grayson Scott
You really don't know the difference between the transmissions of gas and diesel trucks
>the automatic transmissions do not hold up in the diesel trucks. >300,000 miles+ on heavy towing
You are confusing the shitty gas ram transmissions. Ford also an equally robust tranny for its full size diesel models
Jaxon Green
>Decades? For towing? You won't be towing 24/8
>You are going to burn the stupid thing especially on grades Manuals can function without clutches.
>You are confusing the shitty 42RLE for the robust 6.
What do you mean?
Xavier Parker
>What do you mean?
A very clear distinction between that shitty 42RLE and the automatics used for diesels
Aiden Cooper
Dunno what slushbox is in it. It's a Cummins if that matters.
Julian Walker
20th century Chrysler automatic transmission are particularly terrible
Grayson Smith
No? The 48RE is fucking garbage, and the 68 isn't that much better. One of the first "Must do" upgrades on these trucks is upgraded shift solenoids and billet internal parts. If you start adding power, they say you should build the transmission before adding ANY power over stock.
They are fucking garbage. I don't know what dodges you are driving, but every transmission they make short of the newer aisin transmission is garbage.
Alexander Perez
>Cummins
Doubtful but most likely the TorqueFlite series that were shit
Isaiah Clark
>68 isn't that much better.
You mean how the tranny can last as long as the truck?
> If you start adding power
The manual can withstand the higher horsepower but only for a short period before clutch issues. Trying to burn coal at a strip or something?
>but every transmission
Only the diesel ones are good the rest are terrible. But a non commercial manual diesel truck for towing? That's asking for trouble
Jordan Rivera
>So I want a Ram 2500 6.7 w/ manuel. Since it'll be a daily my primary concern is mileage. Why are you getting a truck as a daily and worrying about it's mileage, if you are using it as a simple commuter and care about mileage you are retarded use a car. If you are using it as a work truck and are sweating the mileage charge more money to offset your gas cost. If you work for someone who requires you to use your own work truck, doesn't reimburse you for mileage and is paying you low enough that you are sweating the mileage, get a new job.
Anthony Sullivan
We have a couple 6.7 Cummins work trucks, they get horrible mileage. The 5.9s are far better in that regard. If you want something newer than 07, a diesel, and decent mileage, then you need to look at Duramax or Powerstroke.
Parker Mitchell
>what is a multipurpose vehicle The whole point of having a daily is that it does all of my day to day stuff (getting from A to B), as well as the stuff I need it to do every couple weeks (hauling). A dirt cheap econobox can get me from A to B, but I can't load a SBC in the trunk or haul 4 guys and their camping gear.
An SUV would fit the A to B and probably hauling requirements, but the only manual SUVs are Jeeps, which are 1) gas V6s, 2) not recommended for normal highway passing speeds, and 3) Jeeps.
Lincoln Cruz
Why not a Subaru wagon? Or a Volvo? If you can't fit whatever you're hauling in the back of a Volvo wagon it's too damn big anyway.
>muh diesel don't fall for this meme
Liam Green
They're both gas 6ers at best. I want at least a gas V8 or diesel straight/V6.
Gavin Parker
You can't afford a shitbox to go with your big ass truck? For real?
Aaron Nelson
Learn to read the posts faggot. I would fucking love a midsize truck made in the last decade with a stick, gas V8, and 4WD. Give me that and I'd be good on vehicles until I'm 45 buying a C14 Corvette. But they're nowhere to be found. So the next best thing is a full-size truck with a stick, diesel I6, and 4WD.
Asher Jackson
How does that have anything to do with your main complaint of having to replace the clutch often?
I agree, there's still no way you are getting 20 mpg with the 5.2. I'd be surprised if you got 18.
Daniel Myers
It's a damn shame they never put the S80/XC90 V8 in a wagon.
