A thread for our beloved econobox pocket rockets. Talk experiences, ask for advice and questions and generally shitpost about the Fiesta ST.
Previous Thread: Fuck if I know >"I got the Civic mate" edition Have any of you ever driven a Type-R hot hatch? Was it actually any good?
>What is a "Hot Hatch"? A Hot Hatch is a manufacturer produced, performance oriented variant of a standard hatchback, designed for improved handling, increased top speed, acceleration and generally enhance the driving experience.
>Are all Hot Hatches FWD? No. Whilst most Hot Hatches are FWD, some are AWD or even RWD.
>Isn't FWD shit? No. Just because you can't get the arse out by stamping on the accelerator doesn't mean you can't have fun.
>Aren't Hot Hatches just for Europoors? No; with the launch of the Fiesta and Focus ST to joining the MS3 and Abarth in the US, it seems like the Hot Hatch is beginning to take off on the other side of the Atlantic, but Europoors definitely have more choice.
>Is the Fiesta ST actually good? The Fiesta ST is one of the best small hot hatches on offer at the minute; so yeah they're pretty good.
drove an FN2 a couple of months ago, what do you want to know?
I consider revving the shit out of an engine fun, so to say I quite liked was an understatement. Transmission is about as much fun as it gets in transverse setup. seats, steering etc are just as good as you'd expect from a Honda back then. It also had an LSD so it kinda pulled into the corner under power which felt amazing.
Suspension is very stiff though, almost too stiff for using it outside a racetrack. All in all a great car imho,and it looks amazing in white.
totally would own, but I'm in a comfy phase right now and content with my W124
Brody Jones
Twas thinking of a Fiesta ST, but the standard features, options, and really low prices on a used MazdaSpeed3 is REALLY hard to pass up.
Nolan King
Ms3 is pretty glorious, good buy either way bud
Austin Peterson
I had one as a company car for a bit, sort of wish I still did
Jace Morales
I'm considering getting a used 135i, what should be aware of these cars? Other than lolbmwreliability.
Ian Davis
how are we supposed to know?
Xavier Cook
I meant, like common mechanical problems in these models and such shit.
Gabriel Roberts
Not a hot hatch
Aiden Long
The 135i can be a hatch or coupe
Ian Young
as someone who owned lot of hatches , Mk1 gti, mk2 gti 8v and 16v. also g60 and rallye , multiple vr6 golf's , 205 gti , my personal last hatch was mk4 r32, but i driven mk6 R golf , but i personally feel that entire "hot" hatch market has kinda lost edge , but also know why , since base models of these cars are getting more expensive (same time much safer) top of models of range is getting far too expensive for what they are
Mason Mitchell
2nd gen looks so goofy. What were they thinking?
John Miller
but that said , i have been looking this one mk2 rallye that on sale ,
Wyatt Johnson
already sold also it was bit too expensive for me anyway
Dominic Diaz
I got a Volvo c30, and I love it except the interior stereo. my stereo guy said it can't be replaced because muh Volvo. any ideas?
Asher Hall
Get a Mk2 Focus ST
Logan Williams
Starlet GT reportan in
Evan Richardson
fwd is shit stop lying to yourself :^)
inb4 le busrider meme
Benjamin Rivera
How good are the slightly newer Scarlet Galanza V models?
Are they worth a cheeky purchase for a fun track car?
Robert Nguyen
What are your thoughts? I'm shuffling between a '14 FiST 50k mi for 15k, and a '09 MS3 with 95k mi for 9k. FiST has Recaros, and MS3 is GT, needs new clutch, and has some shit on the hatch glass that probably won't come out. Both are in top shape for wear and tear.
Benjamin Brooks
They're both essentially the same car, just with a different body style. The GT Turbo (EP82) is lighter than the Glanza V (EP91). Mechanically they're both the exact same (other than slightly different ratios in the gearbox of the Glanza).
Quite a few people track them. They're never going to outhandle an EK Type R etc due to the rear trailing arm beam axle, but once they have the usual coilovers, rear antiroll bars, anti lift kits, so on and so forth, they can hold their own. Really fun to just chuck around desu, especially with the standard quick spooling turbo. They're not cars for highway pulls, more for getting corner to corner with fast acceleration (unless you change the turbo of course.
To work on, well, same as any other Japanese hatchback from the '90s. No plastic cladding in the way, everything is accessible, everything is simple.
If you're interested, sign up at ukstarletowners.com, or take a nosy around. Plenty of build threads on there.
Joseph Davis
Top man. Thanks
Can't wait to see your car at Brit meet, looks tasty.
Henry Sullivan
The Type R I can understand, but LMAO at people who actually think the american Civic Si EP3 is a hot hatch.
It has the garbage K20 with no real Vtec kick.
Hudson Gray
fiesta, you could try talking them down another 500-1k but it's still a decent price since it has recaros
Nathaniel Cox
Nice Fit. Anyone know what body kit this is?
Brayden Scott
Hey guys I'm dumb and made a thread about buying an ST-2 MK7 before I realized /hhg/ exists
Brandon Brooks
it is stock facelifted ep3
Mason Kelly
I'm actually going to test drive one tomorrow.
Surely basic upgrades or even a turbo would get it up to par with other proper hot hatches, I don't see why it wouldn't make a good base to build off of without spending big money to import the better engine.
Julian Moore
I know you're trolling, but the EU-market Jazz Si is a thing.
Grayson Morales
>Surely basic upgrades or even a turbo would get it up to par with other proper hot hatches
In that case, why not get a factory turbo hatch like the Fiesta or Mazda 3?
Levi Myers
Because the civic is within walking distance and hot hatches aren't popular at all around here so it's the only one for sale in the area.
It's clean and seems like fun times.
Oliver Butler
2007 GTI manual I just need to put the MkV's face back on and install my CAI and the APR downpipe once they get here through the mail.
Elijah Mitchell
>bolting a turbo to a Civic Type-R >the only 2000s hot hatch that doens't already have one
WHY.
I know you'll never do it anyway, but why would you even come up with this shit?
Brayden Anderson
It's not a Type R, it's the considerably more bland American Si.
I was just making a point that there's the option to increase performance without doing a full blown type R conversion.
Ayden Wood
Am I not allowed to play? Discrimination!
Jonathan Ramirez
I'm considering picking up a Twingo RS for dirt cheap as a temporary run around thing. Tell me why I shouldn't
Tyler Allen
I'm gonna tell you you should look at a Swift Sport as well, and definitely pick up the one you like most.
Ethan Brooks
what tires to get for my focus st? trying to be budget friendly. was going to get some Hankook evo v12 ventus or noble2 from discounttire (because it's local and easy) but they're not available at the moment. so I'm probably going to get them from tire rack.
any other tires I should keep in mind?
Evan Robinson
bampu
Noah Jenkins
Why are the FWD containment threads always the comfiest and best on Veeky Forums?
My thoughts ? I think it's sweet and very inspiring. I kinda of want to build my hothatch for it now, just because I know it's hard but it looks fun. I don't like being shooed away from things I like because I'm fwd.
Cameron Rogers
Here is my Rabbit, full ABA conversion, upgraded cam and headers installed, etc
Mason Miller
well >Drifting is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels or all tires, while maintaining control for the entirety of a corner. A car is drifting when the rear slip angle is greater than the front slip angle, to such an extent that often the front wheels are pointing in the opposite direction to the turn (e.g. car is turning left, wheels are pointed right or vice versa, also known as opposite lock or counter-steering).
So technically FF can drift. However, bald spots out the ass, since the rear tires do not spin as much. When you drift a RWD car, the rear wheels spin and "push" the car forward and force the front wheels to spin. When you drift a FWD car, the front wheels spin and "pull" the car forward, and forwards is against the rotational axis of the wheel in a drift, so more bald spots.
Anyways it's definitely not as cool as RWD drifting but it's much more impressive if you can sustain a FWD drift.
