Cobalt SS is FWD

They also came with Quaife differentials from the factory tory

>only thing it shares with the Cavalier is the engine block

Fuck off Corey. Oversteer is not drifting. Drifting is sustainable and controllable.

>how do yurops run hillclimbs?
>what's an original Mini Cooper?
>who is Jean Ragnotti?

FF doesnt necessarily mean poor handling just like FR doesnt necessarily mean good handling.

TL;DR: Shut the fuck up, retard. Everyone who thinks like you is a retard as well.

It's not about what RWD can do that makes it better.
It's about what FWD can't do that makes it worse.

>it's about there being good cars and bad cars with either layout
>it's about FWD being great for some stuff and RWD being great for others

Brosifine, please fuck off.

There have been no mass produced FWD cars that take any good advantage of FWD quirks sold in the US in the past 30 years.
FWD a shit.

...

Nice Opel

This coming from the retard who said a BMW was cheaper to maintain than a Scion?

Except they didn't lol

Thank you!

>no suicide doors
>no supercharger
looks like ur a fag m8

Except they did, Car and Driver clocked it at 5.3 in the 04-05 models

But they did, faggot.

caranddriver.com/reviews/dodge-srt-4-short-take-road-test

>C&D times
People actually believe that tripe.

OP posted a supercharged model. The Turbo model came with different wheels, and brembo front calipers standard.

Car and driver does 3-60 not 0-60 lol cling harder to a neon shit box

But Recaro's, ur a faget and you have both those

>this guy doesn't believe documented and published 0-60 times

Sorry you suck at driving, but that's correct

>rolling 5-60 now counts as a real 0-60 time
Garbage

Stolen Recaros didn't have the supercharged redline model.

I am Recaros. It's a base model 2.2L N/A car.

Fuck off Corey

Recaros doesnt have a redline he just swapped recaros into a shitty ion. hes a fag

So does having the suicide doors make you bi?

>rolling 5-60 is slower than 0-60
Retard

>It's published! It must be accurate!
C&D Is notorious for reporting bad figures.
I bet you believe in the holohoax just because it's generally published where it fits your perspective.

Was never bi. am gay.

Obviously it's not if publishers use 5-60 times in FWD

>The joke
>Your head

Don't be a stupid feget

Golf GTI

Supercharged Cobalt SS is slower 0-60 than non Supercharged

Looks like you're a cuck straight outta luck

wtf are you smoking? The supercharged Cobalt SS did 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. N/A 2.2L Cobalts did it in 8.0 seconds. 2.4L SS N/A's (06-07 only. People bitched about there not being an automatic SS) did it around 7.2 seconds.

here, cuckboy

2008-2010 Cobalt SS's were all turbocharged you fucking moron.
The SS Supercharged made 205 HP. The SS Turbo made 260

See:
Again, brosifine, pls go.

"Non supercharged" isn't mutually exclusive with "turbocharged"

Fuck off niggerbreath

non-supercharged also refers to the normal 2.2L cars.
And guess what. They did make a naturally aspirated SS in 2006-2007. It had a 170 HP 2.4L. And it's the slowest Cobalt SS

>tell user "non-supercharged" (meaning could be N/A or Turbo) is faster than supercharged (faster implies Turbo because N/A is typically slower)
>you get upset because you assume non-supercharged = N/A
>show you why you were mistaken
There's really nothing more to say here

why would anyone want these ugly shitboxes

faster than your honda civic

cheap and quick

Why aren't you permab& yet

>permabanned

>tfw faster in my hopped up AWD grocery getter

2WD cucks literally cannot compete.

You better be driving an Evo

Well my fr could heat it starting in 2nd gear. Fwd isn't a shit drivetrain but the based SRT 4 is a better car than the SS cobalt
Pic related my fr

>buying a car that costs more than 2K that isn't a fucking Testarossa
Literally fools parting with their money.

FWD an inherently bad drivetrain.

ebin, simply ebin

>but the based SRT 4 is a better car than the SS cobalt
lap times say otherwise.
superstreetonline.com/eventcoverage/130_0511_timeattack/

It wouldn't matter. Cobalt is faster than an Evo.

Goddamn is there NOTHING that can beat a tarbo'd Cobalt SS within a similar price range? The thing is literally 3fast5u: the car

>stock Evo

No such thing, m8. They magically void the drivetrain warranty upon leaving the dealer lot.

That first one isn't even a turbocharged car. It's a supercharged Cobalt.

>is there NOTHING that can beat a tarbo'd Cobalt SS within a similar price range?
Not really. Cobalt SS kinda owns everything in its price range.
The closest thing would be a 2003-2011 Saab 9-3. Same basic engine, a little heavier, but a better chassis with IRS

nope. perfect car for beating ricers on a budget.

If you dump the same amount into something like an Evo or STi as you did a Cobalt SS it'd be overtaken, but those cost far more to begin with.

It's the king of hopped-up affordable econoboxes.

A full race spec car should pull good lap times.
The shitboxes I fox everywhere have about 3 bolts in common with that car.
I work on chevorlets for a living.
There's a reason I drive a ford

>There's a reason I drive a ford
you enjoy walking to work.

dodge srt4 neon?

see:

Reminder that a current-gen V6 camry can do it in 5.6

those are all extremely modified cars with different budget restraints and different drivers though

GM Performance Division and Chrysler's SRT division were in the same class competing under the same rules. Your argument is invalid.

Holy shit it does high 13s stock?

Why the fuck didnt GM keep making this engine?

Where the fuck is the sports compact now?

Amazing.

Lmao

>(as usual)
Fucking Katie

High 13s is standard for a high strung turbo 4 fwd car. Dodge was doing this in 2004

My argument isn't invalid until you can find out how much each team spent.

And even if they spent the same amount, they have different drivers.

>Why the fuck didnt GM keep making this engine?
They do. They still make variants of that engine. You'll find the engine in the:
Buick Verano Turbo
Buick Regal Turbo
Buick Regal GS
Opel Insignia
Opel Astra OPC
Chevrolet Malibu Turbo
2016+ Chevrolet Camaro Turbo
Fisker Karma (as an onboard generator)

>Where the fuck is the sports compact now?
GM has tried to push the Chevrolet Sonic as their go-to sport compact for a while with their successful SCCA B-Spec racing program (pic related). rumors have an upcoming Sonic SS using the 200 HP 1.6L Turbo of the new Buick Cascada convertible.

Choco bar = $1.05
Gum Drop = $.05

but what about sales tax, was that included in the price?

also, someone needs to tell Katie that if she keeps eating so much candy then her teeth will rot out, she'll get fat, contract diabetes, and slowly have body parts cut off of her piece by piece

I really hope thats true then.

The Fiesta ST is so good, we need more cars like that. Seems like GM knows how to make small turbo cars.

These are cheap and quick to
autolist.com/listings/6G2VX12U45L426889
If you can get past the looks

>almost $18k for an 11 yr old Pontiac

Jesus Christ, that's a new level of Jewry I haven't seen before.

I don't think you understand any of this.

That car would be even better if it was RWD, thats all there is to it.

Huh, nevermind I looked up some in my area and that price doesn't seem too bad for a vehicle with under 60k miles....

How much did those things cost brand new?

We'll have to wait and see. The Buick Cascada, so far, is the only car in America using GM's all new 1.6L Turbo.

Did the LSJ come from GM here in the states or Opel in Europe?
youtube.com/watch?v=kjXYsmUYka4

Bit of both. The Ecotec was designed with global input from every single division.
The first division to use the 2.2L L61 Ecotec was Saturn.
The next variant of the Ecotec to come out was the LK9, in the 2003 Saab 9-3 sedan. The LSJ is literally an LK9 but with the turbo setup replaced with an intercooled supercharger setup. The LSJ was only used in the Saturn Ion Redline, Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged, and the American market Ariel Atom.
The LK9 share everything except the exhaust manifold, intake manifold, and choice of forced induction. Block, head, pistons, crank, connecting rods, etc are all identical.

The LK9 is seen here:
The SS Turbo uses an LNF, which has a different head, pistons, fuel system (because direct injection), and connecting rods.

All GM's current 2.0L turbos are variants of the LNF varying little.

Almost 40k loaded

Why did they hold their value so well then? There are '04 - '06 models near me with over 100k miles on them that are listed for over $16k. I can buy a nice BMW Z4 of the same age with under 100k miles on it for less than that.

04-06 Pontiac GTO
Easy

4.8 seconds

german awd v8 power. guess what car i have and you win

tfw the pride and joy of Germany can barely beat a nigger rigged FWD grocery getter... How do you guys deal with that?

At least you guys don't have it as bad as the UK where this based GM Godmachine beats even their "supercars".

triggered

It's still a Cobalt. Shit build quality.

Neons were even worst. They all rusted to shit after five years.

>It's still a Cobalt. Shit build quality.
Do I detect European butthurt?

>all rusted to shit in 5 years
Maybe in your shitty rust belt area, up until last November my gf was driving a 2000 Neon base model with zero rust and I don't live out west/southwest

Shit is still a cobalt / neon /other shitty econobox

>guy I know
>white trash
>has 5 kids
>has mediocre paying job
>throws $30,000 into a BASEMODEL neon to make it a "srt-4 clone"
>everyone laughs at his car

anyways janitors should get a better car than a cavalier / cobalt