Prior to WW2, tensions were incredibly high between the Commonwealth and the USA

I'm not American either, and the US lend lease saved both the UK and the USSR.
As for Communism, jeans, coca cola, and mc donalds are what destroyed it.

>The Us lend lease saved both the UK and The USSR

The USSR didn't really need it. They had a massive manufacturing base. Sure, you gave them weapons in a pinch, but I do not see Germany regaining territory and reaching Moscow if you cut them off. It was not even a close fight.

>UK
Germany didn't try to reinvade Britain after Sealion. It was essentially a cease fire on both sides outside of Africa. Hitler didn't want to be at war with us and we didn't have the manpower or logistics to launch a full scale invasion.

That said, Britain, Canada and Australia could've launched their own D-Day if Australia sent troops to Britain via the Panama Canal. You did only capture 2 beaches after all.

>Jeans, Coca Cola and McDonalds are what destroyed it
What are you even trying to say?

Socialist policies prevented USSR growth, so Gorbachev's more relaxed polices led to its dissolution. you had nothing to do with it. American Capitalism was in decline by 89.

Should have sided with Hitler and the Germans against the USSR.

America provided the USSR with transportation. Wars are not won by T34s alone, logistics makes up 50 % of wars.
I'm actually Russian.
Trust me when i say it's jeans, coca cola and mcdonalds that demolished communism.

I assume you're talking about the British?

Fuck man. I wish.

If i could I'd go back in time and make it happen.

Agree desu, and I was born in England. The UK was stuck between the old era (feudal control with nobles at the top) and the new (nation state republics). The British Empire did have some incredible economic power but by the 1930s (hell even as early as the 2nd Boer War) the UK wasn't able to keep up militarily with the USA. The USA supplied this "world's biggest empire" with badly needed military goods, while the Americans just shrugged at the British self-belief, humongously inflated as it was.

And still is. The UK didn't lose enough world wars and is still deluded about itself. Anyone with a brain is getting the fuck out. Muslims will still pile in ofc.

I don't see a problem with any of what you just green texted.

What, do you think they should have kept all those colonies after such a messy war?

>I'm russian so you should just trust me

That doesn't mean you know more than me.

>America provided the USSR with transportation
Let's assume for a minute this is accurate. You still wouldn't say it was America who defeated the German Reich. Did Savage Arms commit the Columbine Massacre?

>Still deluded about itself
Literally fuck off. We've achieved more technologically, scientifically and militarily than you ever will.

America is on the way out. Your country is 20 Trillion in debt and 60% white and either about to elect a literal murderer or a businessman who has no understanding of foreign policy. The age of European Supremacy is coming back.

This is why you're the world's most hated country. THIS is self inflated ego.

What are you crying about? Anglos did the same thing to a lot of people, but as soon as a stronger force does it to them its a problem? Isn't that how the world works?

What are you responding to?

>Literally fuck off. We've achieved more technologically, scientifically and militarily than you ever will.

Read my post again, I'm English.

We've just voted to eviscerate major sources of funding for British science, many of the people I know in biomedical science for example now intend to move abroad because funding for their projects have gone. British science is going down the toilet.

The other things you mentioned, the US debt and % of whites? UK deficit is not being eliminated any time soon - in fact we've only had two years of budget surpluses in the past three decades. Our debt I'd also vedy high. We're only going to import more third world nonwhites to make up for the lack of cheap white migrant labour from the EU - who may still come here anyway as we accept a Norway status within the EU. That means market access but obeying all the rules, with no representation. Well done, an even worse position than before.

Our financial sector will decamp to Frankfurt, Paris, and Brussels to maintain their trade, and their high frequency trading will be discovered as GDP growth figure fudging - England outside of London had been I'm recession since 2008, the economy will only get worse. We import more than we export and have little to offer the rest of the world other than consumers - except consumer confidence is now sinking massively.

Scotland will leave, as will NI some time after.

"Britain" is utterly utterly fucked. If you voted leave I hope you realise how retarded that was. Move abroad like the rest of us.

Dog bless America

>t. totally not dave

Not an argument.

Because almost everything you said was leftist bullshit.

Especially
>le scoland will leeve will be free of ya english dogs
Scotland have been told they won't get a place in the EU
>Northern Ireland leaving
You realise this is the place most devoted to the union, right?

First, the Great Rapprochement began prior to WWI.

Second, if Europe had kept it's house in order there would have been no need for billions upon billions of American aid to rebuild the bulk of a continent the majority of Americans gave no shits about. If the UK had at least been prepared instead of bending over to appease she wouldn't have had to spend almost all of her financial assets and reserves on American equipment and then still go on to become the largest beneficiary of Lend-Lease.

Nor is it America's fault the UK needed billions in individual US loans after the war, on top of the Marshall plan. Loans made with extremely low interest rates, mind you.

So yes, America had leverage over you and your politics, not just because you were indebted financially, but because your continued existence was owned to them. Rather than pointing the finger and attempting to bite the hand that literally fed you, take some responsibility for once you limey fuck.

>if Europe had kept its house together
stopped reading there
You're literally blaming all Europeans for Nazi Germany invading British and French defended Poland after Danzig wasn't given. You say it's our job to 'Keep our shit together'.

>bite the hand that literally fed you

And fed you better than you did yourselves;

>"Britons’ actual wartime diet was never as severe as in the Cambridge study because imports from the United States successfully avoided the U-boats, but rationing improved the health of British people; infant mortality declined and life expectancy rose, discounting deaths caused by hostilities. This was because it ensured that everyone had access to a varied diet with enough vitamins."

>when people are given a diet instead of purchasing food freely, they become healthier

HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSES

>I know literally nothing about the Treaty of Versailles

>You and The Russians have caused literally nothing but grief.

You're right....all those logistics convoys we sent to the U.K. during the war, not to mention all the troops we squandered in Europe for your dumb asses. And then there's that Marshal plan after the war that actually got Deutschland back on its feet and helped jump start the European economy again. Awful, indeed.

We should have just let the Germans and Soviets make you their bitches, as your limp-wristed society is all about dem' programs and communism anyway.

Nah m8 without LL Russia literally faces starvation and doesn't actually have enough fuel to move its armies. Also the USSR was able to convert so much of its industry to war materiel specifically because of US LL in things like clothing, radios, trucks, trains and telephone lines all absolutely necessary to win a war even if they don't kill Germans on their own.

I'd rather be Nazi Germany's bitch.

They'd of let us keep our Empire and encouraged our nationalism.

The Nazis were terrible economists that bankrupted themselves twice, and you want them to win WW2?

The only thing Brits care about is dem' programs.

The Implication here is they simply dwarf us in military power, not rule us

>It was your fault for drawing arbitrary lines for countries with no regard for the people living there.

weak troll no one who has actually studies the history of colonialism could possibly believe this chracterization is accurate

>the age of European supremacy is back
It's not possible to be this deluded

>You're literally blaming all Europeans for Nazi Germany invading British and French defended Poland

No, I'm blaming them on fucking up the Versailles Treaty for their own self-interests and planting the seeds for WW2 while doing so. Wilson's Fourteen Points may have been idealistic but they were infinitely better then that stupid 'War Guilt Clause' the British and French imposed so they could diminish their insecurities and asspat each other.

>when people are given a diet instead of purchasing food freely, they become healthier

You can't freely purchase food you don't have, you fucking fog breather.

The problem here then is the that two great powers near each other, competing in the same sphere of influence, with one possessing substantially greater military power, generally leads to the stronger dominating the weaker, either politically or militarily.

They don't share an economy thiugh, which is what you implied.

>you can't freely purchase food when there's none of it
So surely when Uncle Sam sends his bountiful crops to old Britannia, he'll pick out the healthiest diet, a privelege British rationers couldn't afford themselves you retard.

Forcing similar economies has always been one of the primary things a dominating country does. Generally the second or third thing after replacing leadership and possibly disarming or drawing down a military.

>the only thing the allies did wrong was not making Versailles harsh enough to dismantle Germany as a proper power
Versailles was nowhere near as harsh as Brest-Litovsk or the German proposal if they won the war

It really makes no difference how harsh it was because the Brits and French were unable and unwilling to back it up. Neither was it the "harshness" itself that the Germans resented, but that reparations were conveyed as Germany being the sole bearer of guilt.

They were much warmer to Wilson's Fourteen Points, as it focused instead on the future, intent on building trade and fostering the League of Nations, not playing historian and assessing blame for political purposes. The treaty and the complete 180 on this only played to the idea of Germany being stabbed in the back.

>how do ration books work?

Did you learn your history from Armstrong and Miller?

youtube.com/watch?v=O-3i_auSk5Q

>the age of european supremacy is back
Sure, Mehmet Vujicvic

The USSR is still the prime contributor, but none of it would have been possible without US help. Personally i cringe when they say bullshit that they defeated Germany. Their contribution is just bigger than non Americans usually think.

You slapped on the islamic north of Nigeria to the south.

>a totally unstable Africa and India!
What are you even saying? All hell would have broken loose in Africa if the Euros had kept hold of it after the 1960s and India is one of the most stable post-colonial democracies in the world today.

>Civil Rights for the black community yet remaining under European control would've created a stable Africa kept in peace

Lol no. You heavily overestimate the Euro powers and heavily over idealism them. How the fuck would you deal with the beaucratic nightmare of the demands the colonies are espousing (you can't give them a non existent budget, deny them freedom of movement and equal citizenship with Europeans)

>anti-colonialism was entirely created by the U.S.A

Haha ok mate

Shhh let him believe his delusions. It's all he's got.

>Brits fuck up
>it's the fault of the Yanks

oh wow that's just sad

>uk
>communist

This is what 16 year old pol posters actually think.

How could the European empires have existed post war? Maybe turn them into sort of EU style single markets?

But Eiros wouldn't want freedom of movement with the colonies

We fucked up and instead of helping us, you profitted off the situation and kicked us while we were down.

Your country literally has no sense of friendship with other nations, you exist to suck life out if them.

Nice strawman. I never said the us was totally responsible for anti colonialism, but you sure as fuck played a large part in it.

man, you are really mad aren't you?

Countries don't have friends they have interests.

They do have friends. Historically countries have backed each other based on previously helping one another. It is only the US who has never really had a long term bro.

>England accusing other countries of being manipulative and ignoring long term relationships

Which country has done things against their own interest to help a friend?

Honestly? A good example is Hitler with Mussolini. After Mussolini publicly supported anschluss to take place, Hitler was quoted to say he would always be there for mussolini. Despite Mussolini's poor leadership, Hitler was insistent in keeping him in high command. He easily could've annexed Italy but wanted to maintain its strength, and put Mussolini in positions of high command after the invasion of Italy.

>Brits fuck over world
>Mad when America does it to them

top kek

You have very little understanding of International Relations, mate. It's literally against a states best interest, not to mention irresponsible, to maintain alliances because of some concept of "friendship".

And you forgot equal representation in the government and budget constraints.

There is no argument here. You just said 'You're wrong they don't do that'

Europeans were nazis

>What are you even trying to say?
Soft power, retard

Yeah we got cucked real hard

Not him but here's an amendment:

> well lead nations don't do that.
> badly led nations with no understanding of international relations do stupid shit like that.
> and pay for it

>The USSR didn't really need it.

>Europe destorys itself for the second time in a row

>"fucking americans!"

lol

well done for not reading the post

>Run your shitty empire into the ground
>Be surprised when people don't want to support your fuckups

ITT: Brit cuck gets completely and utterly BTFO

>soviets were combat inneffectuve when dealing with the eastern front
>therefore they did most of the work
Comedy gold. Maybe we should execute our entire army before a war starts next time if we want credit.

To be fair, un fucked up in africa hard