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Visual Novel General #1165

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This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

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Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.

Post visual novels only you can read!

I like lolis and michiru a shit.

ok

Can you start the thread with a relevant visual novel next time? Retard.

How does one who knows the grammar goes about reading his porn? Do you texthook them to look up words?

Fuck, the image vanished
Well I read untranslated vns with parser for 7-8 months. It took several days to get comfortable with the language in muramasa though.

>At least Koestl tries to be funny
I see, so it's Koestl that's acting like a JOP faggot. So everytime there's a JOP post, people should say "Fuck off Koestl instead".

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>Suomi

Didn't know translators did that

Yeah, how else? Texthooking is your best friend.

Fuck off Koestl

Yes. Text-hook to get the kanji you don't know. If you do it long enough and properly mine the words/kanji you don't know, you'll eventually reach a point where you don't need a texthooker.

Seriously, where the fuck is the Coroblo torrent?

Koestl took off his trip after Gahkthun got blown out by that professional reviewer? Damn...

Kill yourself.

Yes and he posts and retweets stupid shit. He is one of our greatest TL so I feel compelled to follow him and the mafia's power is to absurd to oppose

In private trackers.

No translator was actually involved, people just got really drunk and it sort of just happened.

Fuck off pirate scum. /vn/ buys their visual novels now.

You bought it? Then upload it

Good, could you upload it to mega for me?

Time to settle this once and for all.

strawpoll.me/10984103

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Illya is the cutest.

Muramasa is one of those games you can texthook pretty early on and stumble through to get the gist since the writing tends to be clear, but it'd take years to fully appreciate all aspects of it at a satisfactory, unassisted pace. In short it's all up to your standers: Months if you're okay taking a dump on it, years if you're not.

I don't disagree, but why bring that up?

Yeah you can read pretty much every normal VN at 1~ year in fairly well, but you probably want to keep Masada and Muramasa until the 2 year mark at the very least.

Fuck off

Doesn't Muramasa use a lot of older Japanese phrases? It would probably be hard to even stumble through it with a year of studying even if you knew the basic grammar.

You can do it too, user. I'm sure you can spare at least 30 minutes a day

Thanks for the (You)
I dunno. As i said, I read after about 9 months of texthooking and really enjoyed it. I don't think I lost much. The only part where i just skipped was the infamous Noah play. Other parts were fine. History infodumps were difficult though.

I've learned from looking around that people really overestimate their Japanese, or underestimate how much they lose from having shitty Japanese, because there's so many damn beginners reading shit like Subahibi even as their first VN. I've accepted that not as the "wrong" thing to do, just as an alien way of thinking to me, so I won't say he should put off Muramasa or anything, I just wanted to ensure that the dude who asked knew that the person he was talking to wasn't properly reading Muramasa after 7-8 months of texthooking. That'd give him the wrong idea.
The thing about these texthookers is that they skip over what they don't understand without much of a second thought. That's why they always emerge thinking "they didn't lose too much", because they just skipped everything they didn't comprehend.

chinese atelier clone kickstarter/10

>wasn't properly reading
According to who?

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot.

Moogy

This lesson was pretty intense guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/must Jesus

SubaHibi is a fairly good beginner VN. Maybe not first but 3rd or so is fine. Not really comparable to something like Muramasa on the level of "missing out".

I guess "properly" has an offensive meaning to you, i.e. thinking I'm imposing some kind of dumb standard, so I'll clarify. "properly" as in "comprehending what they're reading on a level comparable to a native". By "properly reading Muramasa" I meant "looking at the text of Muramasa and understanding what's written at a similar pace and with similar accuracy as a native would have". I don't think you'll find that definition pretentious or offensive.

I can smell your envy.

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot.

How do I cope the fact I'm too dumb for japanese and I'll be an EOP forever?

If pic related can do it so can you!

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot.

>The thing about these texthookers is that they skip over what they don't understand without much of a second thought

That's a pretty huge assumption.

There are plenty of people who use texthookers just to get at a kanji/word they don't know (and hopefully add it to a mining deck in Anki or something). At the end of the day, a texthooker is only as good as the person using it is since you still need to know the grammar and a good amount of vocab unless you want to be looking up every other word in the dictionary.

How much did you try? Fun fact: just being scared of kanji isn't trying.

That OP must have typed to fast because he lost the "English-translated" quote betwen "of" and "Japanese".

I tried for 20 minutes and then realized it was impossible.

Nah, EOPs aren't accepted here. Please go to /evn/ where lowly scum like you belongs.

300 kanji on anki and 1 week of grammar.

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot.

That's the correct OP newfriend.

You can stop false-flagging, faggot.

I was surely being hyperbolic (not literally everybody does that) but it's certainly a trend that exists and is evident in those reading Muramasa with less than a year of experience and claiming to have "not missed much". Not to mention that skipping over what one doesn't understand is pretty much wired into our brains.

"Discussion of english-translated japanese visual novels" doesn't make much sense

@151662314
Someone get the tranquilizer we have a mad EOP on the loose!

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot. See

Just after you go to your JOP thread

>image is darker because the user was losing his vision from his seething rage when he took the screenshot
Holy shit

Awesome thread as always guys. Fuwanovel is proud

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot. See >Fuwanovel
>Shit community
Fuck off

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YOU. ARE. A. BORE. RETARD

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot. See

youtube.com/watch?v=MPov9cVfz0U
Relax your mind and body during this calming music with dolphins sounds.

Did we ever reach a consensus on who had the better ass?

That's it. I'm migrating to Reddit

Nemubutt is better butt.

Do you guys think he might shoot up a school or a mall because of his boiling EOP rage? I'm getting worried here

Right's is objectively better but is too large for the rest of the body.
Proportion is s thing, artists!

Just be wary of white kids with backpackes

Kanae, she's also best grill.

I'm actually know where you live, if you shitpost JOP shit on this fucking thread again, don't ever leave your window or doors open or there will be blood.

Bon voyage!

The only people who think Kanae is best girl are those who haven't finished Euphoria.

>backpackes
?

this desu

enjoy your stay at reddit, don't ever come back

C'm the fuck out dude.
She was well justified in everything.
It's like you haven't read a single thing

Okay, no offense then. I'm just a bit tired of EOPs crying "You dont understand anything!1!!!!".
You know, I'm not the kind of person to enjoy prose so it's obvious that i don't lose much using texthookers. If I don't understand something, I'll guess from the context. I don't digg their onomatopoeia. If I see two words one after another meaning essentially the same(like ずるずると引きずっている) , I just don't bother looking the nuances.

Also, what's wrong with skipping this Noah play? The characters mentioned and commented the important bits from it(and background) anyway.

Sure I can't fully enjoy Cross Channel or Masada but who cares. It's not like they had a great engaging plot that kept me interested like Muramasa or Baldr.

>not missed much
Ok, what did i miss?

No.

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot. See

Did she really loved the MC? I dropped it because fuck kanae.

reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4xhe6p/rewrite_unboxing_video/
And I already found a quality thread there. Really makes you think

Literal cancer. I have and will never understand how these garbage unboxing videos became a thing.

>I'm not the kind of person to enjoy prose
>It's not like they had a great engaging plot that kept me interested
holy shit lol
just watch anime or something instead, novels are obviously too much for your little ADHD brain

I'm not saying you don't understand *anything*. I'm just saying you almost certainly skipped over a lot without understanding it, much like most people who read things above their level. The thing about "guessing from context" is that you'll be pretty consistently wrong, at least as often as you're right. And that's even when you're aware you're guessing from context and not just plain skipping over a sentence without properly parsing it.

Yeah, she is kinda tsundere till the end.
1 of the bad ends(with anal thermometer) shows this.

She hated him.
Faggot MC meeting with loli Nemu caused her parents' death.

She still gave the useless MC a second chance and at the end she even kept retarded Nemu safe.

Kanae.
This.
Piss off faggot, Kanae a best.

>Faggot MC meeting with loli Nemu caused her parents' death.

must've not been paying attention because i dont remember that. wasn't it just an accident at the lab or something?

>/hgg/ is making fun of us again

hi moogy. How's romeo's last kusoge?
>you almost certainly skipped over a lot
Nope.
>above their level
Please. The only things about my lvl were chants and Noah play.

I like how the discussions don't have any spoilers and it just totally ruined it for me, thanks guys.

No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple.
This is not your blog, faggot. See We don't give a fuck about them, they don't give a fuck about us.

Yup. Sorry bud, but I know you better than you know yourself. It's ironic you simultaneously think you didn't skip over anything or fail to parse much while you also guessed from context and relied on a texthooker but I guess cognitive dissonance is a thing for a reason.

>mfw they're right about everything

You haven't even read Muramasa Quof, don't be jealous of someone who did.

You are fucking retarded, kill yourself

>JOPs wasting time shitposting here instead of over on their general

Gets me every time.