Can you start the thread with a relevant visual novel next time? Retard.
Carter Nguyen
How does one who knows the grammar goes about reading his porn? Do you texthook them to look up words?
Angel Martinez
Fuck, the image vanished Well I read untranslated vns with parser for 7-8 months. It took several days to get comfortable with the language in muramasa though.
Joseph Brooks
>At least Koestl tries to be funny I see, so it's Koestl that's acting like a JOP faggot. So everytime there's a JOP post, people should say "Fuck off Koestl instead".
Parker Stewart
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Evan Cooper
>Suomi
Didn't know translators did that
Dylan Ortiz
Yeah, how else? Texthooking is your best friend.
Parker Taylor
Fuck off Koestl
Oliver Barnes
Yes. Text-hook to get the kanji you don't know. If you do it long enough and properly mine the words/kanji you don't know, you'll eventually reach a point where you don't need a texthooker.
Adam Nelson
Seriously, where the fuck is the Coroblo torrent?
Carter Gonzalez
Koestl took off his trip after Gahkthun got blown out by that professional reviewer? Damn...
Juan Robinson
Kill yourself.
Sebastian Cooper
Yes and he posts and retweets stupid shit. He is one of our greatest TL so I feel compelled to follow him and the mafia's power is to absurd to oppose
Connor Thompson
In private trackers.
John Wilson
No translator was actually involved, people just got really drunk and it sort of just happened.
Dylan Morgan
Fuck off pirate scum. /vn/ buys their visual novels now.
Muramasa is one of those games you can texthook pretty early on and stumble through to get the gist since the writing tends to be clear, but it'd take years to fully appreciate all aspects of it at a satisfactory, unassisted pace. In short it's all up to your standers: Months if you're okay taking a dump on it, years if you're not.
Leo Edwards
I don't disagree, but why bring that up?
Eli Perry
Yeah you can read pretty much every normal VN at 1~ year in fairly well, but you probably want to keep Masada and Muramasa until the 2 year mark at the very least.
Asher Davis
Fuck off
Jacob Moore
Doesn't Muramasa use a lot of older Japanese phrases? It would probably be hard to even stumble through it with a year of studying even if you knew the basic grammar.
Anthony Walker
You can do it too, user. I'm sure you can spare at least 30 minutes a day
Brayden Wood
Thanks for the (You) I dunno. As i said, I read after about 9 months of texthooking and really enjoyed it. I don't think I lost much. The only part where i just skipped was the infamous Noah play. Other parts were fine. History infodumps were difficult though.
Brandon Watson
I've learned from looking around that people really overestimate their Japanese, or underestimate how much they lose from having shitty Japanese, because there's so many damn beginners reading shit like Subahibi even as their first VN. I've accepted that not as the "wrong" thing to do, just as an alien way of thinking to me, so I won't say he should put off Muramasa or anything, I just wanted to ensure that the dude who asked knew that the person he was talking to wasn't properly reading Muramasa after 7-8 months of texthooking. That'd give him the wrong idea. The thing about these texthookers is that they skip over what they don't understand without much of a second thought. That's why they always emerge thinking "they didn't lose too much", because they just skipped everything they didn't comprehend.
Brody Bailey
chinese atelier clone kickstarter/10
Justin Scott
>wasn't properly reading According to who?
Alexander Thompson
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot.
SubaHibi is a fairly good beginner VN. Maybe not first but 3rd or so is fine. Not really comparable to something like Muramasa on the level of "missing out".
Gavin Ramirez
I guess "properly" has an offensive meaning to you, i.e. thinking I'm imposing some kind of dumb standard, so I'll clarify. "properly" as in "comprehending what they're reading on a level comparable to a native". By "properly reading Muramasa" I meant "looking at the text of Muramasa and understanding what's written at a similar pace and with similar accuracy as a native would have". I don't think you'll find that definition pretentious or offensive.
Elijah Lewis
I can smell your envy.
Wyatt Hughes
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot.
Mason Ramirez
How do I cope the fact I'm too dumb for japanese and I'll be an EOP forever?
Jose Powell
If pic related can do it so can you!
Logan Bennett
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot.
Easton Clark
>The thing about these texthookers is that they skip over what they don't understand without much of a second thought
That's a pretty huge assumption.
There are plenty of people who use texthookers just to get at a kanji/word they don't know (and hopefully add it to a mining deck in Anki or something). At the end of the day, a texthooker is only as good as the person using it is since you still need to know the grammar and a good amount of vocab unless you want to be looking up every other word in the dictionary.
Gabriel Anderson
How much did you try? Fun fact: just being scared of kanji isn't trying.
Nathaniel Cook
That OP must have typed to fast because he lost the "English-translated" quote betwen "of" and "Japanese".
Juan Parker
I tried for 20 minutes and then realized it was impossible.
Ayden Jackson
Nah, EOPs aren't accepted here. Please go to /evn/ where lowly scum like you belongs.
Nathan Young
300 kanji on anki and 1 week of grammar.
Charles Diaz
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot.
Elijah Stewart
That's the correct OP newfriend.
Jonathan Roberts
You can stop false-flagging, faggot.
Henry Martin
I was surely being hyperbolic (not literally everybody does that) but it's certainly a trend that exists and is evident in those reading Muramasa with less than a year of experience and claiming to have "not missed much". Not to mention that skipping over what one doesn't understand is pretty much wired into our brains.
Brayden Sullivan
"Discussion of english-translated japanese visual novels" doesn't make much sense
Michael Gomez
@151662314 Someone get the tranquilizer we have a mad EOP on the loose!
Lincoln Barnes
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot. See
Ian Hernandez
Just after you go to your JOP thread
Nicholas Anderson
>image is darker because the user was losing his vision from his seething rage when he took the screenshot Holy shit
Evan Moore
Awesome thread as always guys. Fuwanovel is proud
Jonathan Edwards
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot. See >Fuwanovel >Shit community Fuck off
Brody Gonzalez
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Joshua Anderson
YOU. ARE. A. BORE. RETARD
Sebastian Lopez
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot. See
Did we ever reach a consensus on who had the better ass?
Nolan Perry
That's it. I'm migrating to Reddit
Samuel Bailey
Nemubutt is better butt.
Julian Watson
Do you guys think he might shoot up a school or a mall because of his boiling EOP rage? I'm getting worried here
Levi Rogers
Right's is objectively better but is too large for the rest of the body. Proportion is s thing, artists!
Ian Johnson
Just be wary of white kids with backpackes
Isaac Sullivan
Kanae, she's also best grill.
Justin Hill
I'm actually know where you live, if you shitpost JOP shit on this fucking thread again, don't ever leave your window or doors open or there will be blood.
Connor Rivera
Bon voyage!
Christian Torres
The only people who think Kanae is best girl are those who haven't finished Euphoria.
Jordan Rivera
>backpackes ?
Grayson Scott
this desu
enjoy your stay at reddit, don't ever come back
Brody Morales
C'm the fuck out dude. She was well justified in everything. It's like you haven't read a single thing
Jayden Johnson
Okay, no offense then. I'm just a bit tired of EOPs crying "You dont understand anything!1!!!!". You know, I'm not the kind of person to enjoy prose so it's obvious that i don't lose much using texthookers. If I don't understand something, I'll guess from the context. I don't digg their onomatopoeia. If I see two words one after another meaning essentially the same(like ずるずると引きずっている) , I just don't bother looking the nuances.
Also, what's wrong with skipping this Noah play? The characters mentioned and commented the important bits from it(and background) anyway.
Sure I can't fully enjoy Cross Channel or Masada but who cares. It's not like they had a great engaging plot that kept me interested like Muramasa or Baldr.
>not missed much Ok, what did i miss?
Jeremiah Young
No.
Gabriel Wood
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot. See
Elijah Ross
Did she really loved the MC? I dropped it because fuck kanae.
Literal cancer. I have and will never understand how these garbage unboxing videos became a thing.
Nolan Price
>I'm not the kind of person to enjoy prose >It's not like they had a great engaging plot that kept me interested holy shit lol just watch anime or something instead, novels are obviously too much for your little ADHD brain
Justin Wilson
I'm not saying you don't understand *anything*. I'm just saying you almost certainly skipped over a lot without understanding it, much like most people who read things above their level. The thing about "guessing from context" is that you'll be pretty consistently wrong, at least as often as you're right. And that's even when you're aware you're guessing from context and not just plain skipping over a sentence without properly parsing it.
Tyler Smith
Yeah, she is kinda tsundere till the end. 1 of the bad ends(with anal thermometer) shows this.
Brandon Jones
She hated him. Faggot MC meeting with loli Nemu caused her parents' death.
She still gave the useless MC a second chance and at the end she even kept retarded Nemu safe.
Colton Jones
Kanae. This. Piss off faggot, Kanae a best.
Jordan Walker
>Faggot MC meeting with loli Nemu caused her parents' death.
must've not been paying attention because i dont remember that. wasn't it just an accident at the lab or something?
Justin Watson
>/hgg/ is making fun of us again
Jace Diaz
hi moogy. How's romeo's last kusoge? >you almost certainly skipped over a lot Nope. >above their level Please. The only things about my lvl were chants and Noah play.
Isaac Bailey
I like how the discussions don't have any spoilers and it just totally ruined it for me, thanks guys.
Mason Wood
No one gives a fuck, read the rules or fuck off. It's that simple. This is not your blog, faggot. See We don't give a fuck about them, they don't give a fuck about us.
Caleb Long
Yup. Sorry bud, but I know you better than you know yourself. It's ironic you simultaneously think you didn't skip over anything or fail to parse much while you also guessed from context and relied on a texthooker but I guess cognitive dissonance is a thing for a reason.
Justin Rivera
>mfw they're right about everything
John Sanders
You haven't even read Muramasa Quof, don't be jealous of someone who did.
Angel Edwards
You are fucking retarded, kill yourself
Ethan Lee
>JOPs wasting time shitposting here instead of over on their general