Weaboos and Japanese history

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How about who gives a single shit

Why do you even care about what strangers think of you? That's the core of the "problem".

Mainly because I care about my social life, not to be rude. I've seen how the JrROTC kids are looked at when in high school and I know weebs are viewed the same.

On a side note, how weeb-tastic will the kendo club at my college be, do your think?

Your interests and hobbies have 0 to do with your social life unless you center your social life around your interests and hobbies. That's your decision to make. If someone judges you negatively based on something as shallow as your interests, why do you want to be friends with them? If you have nothing going for you other than your hobbies and interests, then choose to have hobbies and interests that coincide with people you want to be friends with.

Stop caring about what irrelevant people think about you, it's fallacy. I have great friends who don't give two fucks about weebshit and I have anime girl figures. People who would judge me based off of such a petty thing aren't worth my time and they shouldn't be worth yours.

Also, take it from someone who's done both kendou and fencing: fencing is better in every way.

You're viewing social life all wrong. You can have an interest in just about anything, and as long as you don't act like an autistic faggot, people will respect you. Your hobbies have nothing to do with how you're perceived, as long as you aren't stupid.

>asukafags

I'm not a weeb, and i don't know much about Japanese history. But i was always fascinated and impressed by the Meiji restoration and the Post war economic miracle.
How does a country go from feudalism to a great power status in such a short period of time? And how does a country that was nuked and napalmed become the worlds 2nd economy?
I always wonder could it be used as an example for helping currently developing countries (hopefully skipping the expansion and massacre parts)
>20 YEARS
Leave this shit out of Veeky Forums at least. Veeky Forums /tv/ /int/ everywhere i go some fuckers will always start an asuka vs rei fight.

You do know no one cares about what you like as long as you're not an autist about it. Sure, fetish shit is a big no-no, but if you're not shoving what you like down everyone's nose, people don't really care.

It also helps to be strong enough to fuck them up if they ever say shit, but that's besides the point.

I'm in the same boat. Sure I'm learning Japanese, like anime/manga, draw anime, and listen to Japanese music, and go on /a/ everyday, but I'm totally not a weeb.

Not complaining, but posting a contentious character from a contensious show on a site that thrives on being contentious and not expecting those results is just idiotic.

To be on topic, I'm a weeb through and through, but most people aren't gonna freak out if you just casually mention something like the Sengoku period or something. If you can't stop talking about any topic, you're going to puss off people no matter what.

Asuka a shit, fite me

You're a weeb, sorry bud

>How do you, as a white male, study Japanese history without the apprearence of being a weeb? I find it interesting, have no interest in manga or anime, but find kendo kinda cool, but I don't want to be perceived as a weeb. Is there no hope?
You study Japan during and before WW2. Weebs don't give a shit about that, they care for anime and katana memes and nothing more. If you start rambling about the Sengoku Jidai or Tokugawa shogunate then they shut the fuck up

>draw anime

Honestly being a weeb is much more of a image and behaviour than what you do.

When people think of weaboos they might know the definition but what they think of are those retarded (calling them autistic would be an insult to people on the autistic spectrum) fat neckbeard cosplayers who either dishonor their parents or don't have parents to begin with.

By definiton I am a weaboo. I'm learning Japanese on my own, I used to watch some anime and manga, and even have a few body pillows, figures, etc. But the point is that nobody would ever call me a weaboo.

In fact I am pretty much seen as an example. I'm constantly complimented by work colleagues, gym buddies, college mates, etc, as being formal, educated and hard working and everything. The reason they don't call me a weaboo is that I don't *behave* like a weaboo.

So just keep that in mind. Just don't sperg out in public and know how to control yourself. Keep the degeneracy to your own. This also applies to anything else in life. Being gay, doing drugs, etc...

I'd show you my sketches but I'm not at a good enough level yet.

Needs more Loomis.

>Oh I doubt that. Maybe they don't know the name, but they know the type.
Completely wrong.

Go socialise a bit.

I legitimately think it'd be pretty cool to have samurai martial arts and stuff here. The only thing that is really "acceptable" is little faggot kids getting out of karate.

I wish I could get a HEMA/AMA place going and even do it as a non-profit, but I don't have the start-up money or, honestly, the knowledge. I think it'd also be cool to have a nice, soundproof place where people could come and meditate for however long they needed to.

keep at it, user

> Knows basic Japanese and Chinese history
> Hates Japan and China

I'm sorry, but what?

spend enough time shitposting on /int/ and Veeky Forums and you pick things up through osmosis.

>I hate China and Japan, for fuck's sake
Kek, why?

I mean Japan is semi-understandable. But China? Why?

clearly you haven't interacted with normies in a long time

Honestly, it's more understandable to hate China than Japan since modern China is a shithole (imagine Russia only even worse).

Don't know why anyone would hate either country's history though, they both have interesting history and culture tbqh.

>China is a shithole
China is still technically industrialising. And they have over a billion people. So yes, it's bound to be 'bad'. Just you wait though.

They surpassed America in manufacturing many years a go.

Kendo practitioner here.
Guaranteed that some members of the dojo will be weebs, some autistically so, but since I practiced kendo in Southern California there were more than enough actual Japanese members for them to mostly know to keep the anime crap among themselves at the dojo because they quickly learned real japs don't care much for anime otakus. Besides that...why would you even care what normies think? I doubt most Americans even know what a kendo is and if you go out of your way to mention it you'll get some cringey joke about Kung Fu or something at most. It's seen as a martial arts thing if anything not an anime thing.

They also surpassed America in producing ugly, stupid tourists, which is a significant milestone.

>They also surpassed America in producing ugly, stupid tourists, which is a significant milestone.
Kay'.

One of the marks of wisdom is not caring about what other people think, if you are not doing anything wrong.

There is nothing wrong with studying history.

if there's anything thats as bad as a weeaboo, its a sinoboo.

The only real answer is; embrace that you are a white fella of whatever culture you belong too. Then smash japanese chicks err day because a good amount of them have white boi fetishism.
Learn by association.

You are just immature, frankly.

Kendo is literally the scum of "budo"

Go do a koryu and free yourself from mcdojo bullshit.

This, just become a full on weeb and go on to fuck tons of Japanese girls and spawn many hapa babies to help increase their birth rates. Also it helps that most Asian girls have white fever rather than the other way around.

The Sengokujidai is fascinating from a viewpoint of an asian culture interacting with and not ultimately being dominated by the west

also rapid integration of firearms/tactics

Given, I'm under the impression it's romanticized to shit and is probably the most examined portion of Japanese history by weebs if I had to gander a guess, but it's also what I'd call the second most examined part following WWII by nonweebs.

Just move to Japan like Debito-kun and complain about it all the time all the while enjoying Japanese culture, Japanese food, and Japanese women to make it 100% clear to everyone that you're definitely not a weeb.

>How do you, as a white male, study Japanese history without the apprearence of being a weeb? I find it interesting, have no interest in manga or anime, but find kendo kinda cool, but I don't want to be perceived as a weeb. Is there no hope?

Why do you care so much about how your perceived by people you dont know? smart people will be able to tell the difference between someone with a serious interest in a foreign culture and someone who blindly worships them

>implying Veeky Forums wasn't made for weebs
Don't worry so much about your image and study what you want.

Kendo is to swordfighting what boxing is to real fighting. It's not trying to be realistic, doesn't make it bad.

Your kidding right? I will admit that many koryu people dont like kendo but there are probably more koryu people with a background in it.

WWII and the Pacific War is pretty much anathema to weebs. Or if they do study it, they come at it from an angle of "modern Japanese are polite so it's impossible for 1940's Japan to have done anything bad!"

I guess the Sengoku period is pretty good, too. No kawaii bullshit, just dudes killing each other because their feudal lord told them to.

If you actually read about samurai, they often were not much better than the ultra nationalists of WWII.

Even the Chinese hate Chinese tourists. Its like they forgo any and all sense of decency and etiquette once they leave their town border.

fucking nouveau riche mainlander scum

Kendo has its own history, but is just as divorced from any practical Japanese historical sword arts as modern Olympic fencing is from historical Western martial arts.

You can be interested in kendo without being a weeb. It's just that most westerners who get into it are weeb as fuck. And even if you do get into it honestly, you're basically just playing tea parties for men.

My wife is Japanese and my kids are half-Japanese by extension, and I know much more about Japanese history than most natives here do. Also I'm not a weeb, I've barely watched any anime or collected figures since high school.

>ITT weebs in denial
Go back to one of your dozen containment boards /a/ fags

Not even early Showa Japan wanted the war. If you look at figures like prime minister Inukai, the Diet were contrary to an intervention in China and even refused to recognize Manchukuo as a dependency (if you wonder who ran it, it was the Japanese Army Inc., with funds funneled on their own, since the Diet agreed on cutting down public military expenditure). That's why he got assassinated in the end.
If you look at 1940s Japan, it's a story of the Japanese Army (not even the hawkish lobbies) hijacking politics to do what they do best.

So are football guys night type gathering tbqh my dude

There's just more protocol

Not so much divorced as estranged. for instance martial arts reseacher and student of several koryu Meik Skoss has praised the kendo kata (done right) and said they contain pretty much everything you need to know.

Its just that kendo itself is not trained with the purpose of developing swordsmen, or they would start with the kata and work up to shiai just like hokushin itto ryu or other edo koryu

You sound like a closet weeaboo.

Dumb frogposter

No you are still a weeb. A different breed of weeb, but weeb nonetheless.

Being a weeaboo is more about wanky of how good japan is than liking anime and manga brah. That's why there a seperate terms.
Animefags hate weebs because they watch some anime and read some manga and then slowly devolve into this worship of a tiny island. It seems like you may have skipped phase one.
Still makes you a weeb however, depending on how much you like Japan.

At least china is continuing to modernize and becoming more and more powerful, unlike Russia which pretty much peaked in the late 60s/early 70s and has been going downhill ever since.

You'll get called a weeb on the internet for expressing any interest in Japan. Just avoid the "typical" weeb stuff particularly anime, manga etc etc. That being said, doing kendo can earn you major weeaboo points with some people.

It seems like a modern phenomena where any interest remotely associated with introverted young men becomes socially stigmatized, no matter its academic or physical merit.

Ive seen people call respected scholars of Japanese religion and martial arts "weeaboos" simply because they have an unusually high interest in Japan.

well we studied feudal japanese society structure along with the structure and class system of other cultures

you're only a weeb if you study animays, and pretend those sandals with blocks of wood stuck to them are the best thing ever

well naturally she's the best girl, she has an actual personality, and red hair