Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

What is the best r8 class and why is it Mergen?

seems really nice!

Ohayou and database exist for the sole purpose of segregating the inner circle from new players, it is really stupid.

What if guild halls had cozy bar and bath house areas? They could be behind those boarded up doors on the sides. Guild halls would be saved.

It's slash and there is not enhance attribute for it, the only attribute is the one that allows to spread damage that hits the wheel, I have the skill at level 3

Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!

It seemed so futureproof back then...

You need to reroll swordman now

Guild halls are cancer. Anything that separates players and locks them away from others is bad for MMORPGs. They'd better fix framerate so you could hang out in cities, chatting, dueling, emoticon posing and ERPing on roofs.

where is cannon2 info

I-I'm already working on a swordie alt, and I'll probably create a sorc too someday.

And a confinement cell for boys!

What is this Uphill Defense mission and how do I find it?

You defend a torch from wave after wave of monsters. Its in Saalus.

i want to fuck a capy

It still won't do anything.

Case in point: Wakfu's Havenworlds.

Recommendations on a r7 for a str paladin? You said Kabba for pvp, but im really only interested in pve

Its a saalus daily you do for level 2 gem abrasives.

Thats a Mia

wtf i love mia now

Monk for that strike debuff

Do Inq and Dao have any debuffs?

Not thats a Capy

Does it spread damage lines and their blessing? And does it have it's own scaling on a stat?

Most guilds were made when the game was still alive. Back then guilds were actually full and you had to wait in line for an invite. Now the game is dead and some people don't want to give up on their guilds.

Database and Ohayou exist only because Cattly and Beethoven are fucking attention whores though, you got that right.

if I follow this build:
tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dhpxgrtpoa/

and go full CON, will I be viable for PvP?

>Anything that separates players and locks them away from others
In this case it's just a private place for guilds, that's not so bad.

>Does it spread damage lines and their blessing?
Yes
>And does it have it's own scaling on a stat?
Since it's a physical attack, it should scale with STR and it crits too

It's just game got stale fast due not enough time sinks and boring place to visit.
Rank 8 seems promising for once

>there are still no guilds on Silute and Varena

t. Lolicuck

You can blame IMC for that

back then there was not enough room in the guilds to house all /tosg/

So when FOE was made there was retarded high requirements for being a hardcore guild (LOL) and because spots were limited, they also used discord.

So more guilds still needed to be made.

cute and Clover came along.

Problem is the guild leader in both of these guilds are unfit to lead a guild in their own rights, cute GL was an autistic emotional wreck who doesn't even care about his guild or the game and Clover GL was and still is some SEA faggot playing on NA with the shittiest of times.

So everyone was hoping for Lolipan to save them with a good /tosg/ guild.
And he seemingly did, or at least thats what it looked like at first.
Eventually people started leaving because Lolipan is a literal unlikeable giga-cuck of unprecedented proportions, one can only scratch their head in confusion as how such a person grew enough balls to actually create a guild.

And basically lots of drama from thread shitposting and namedropping made a lot of Klai players hate each other.

Various other guilds were made because some people couldn't stand the thought of playing in the same guild as other people or vice versa or whatever and basically everything is fucked because we never had one big single guild thanks to stupid IMC restrictions

Wheres everybody at? Is it ass exp?

>30k hp players with 50k dps seems promising

Thats what you exploit enhancements for silly goy

>tfw wont be able to join a varena guild since i found good friends in my current guild

spelled Hakkapeliitta wrong, senpai

Most people do it in dedicated groups.
Its literally harder than et to get past 25 let alone 30.
Most pick up groups fail around 20, most dedicated guild groups fail around 25-30 with extremely specialised parties getting to around 35-40 at best.

how are we segregating ourselves from new players? We're begging people to join us at this point

How many waves are there? I thought it ended at 30

is it true that Daoshi skills cost like 1500 silver per cast? I heard that talismans cost 500 silver but each skill uses at least three?

>Ohayou and database exist for the sole purpose of segregating the inner circle from new players, it is really stupid.

It feels like Ohayou mostly exists because a few people from Futureproof don't like how Lolipan was leading the guild. This inner circle shit people keep spouting is retarded.

Is there anything better than meme-meme for archers now?

if anything the people outside the inner circle left Also Beethoven just wanted his own harem

Guild Halls were great in Guild Wars 1

Yeah, there's an inner circle consisting of 90% of the guild (aka, normal players). And then you have the shitters (avatarfags, cuteposters, townsitters, erpers).

...

Other Veeky Forums guilds I played with were like so:

>create ONE guild
>guild full
>kick inactives
>guild full again
>100% active
>create second guild
>pour all the resources from first guild to second guild so they'll stand equally
>both guild and the leaders are all equal
>repeat step 2 if neccesary

But nope. Can't have nice things.

Didn't see there was a new thread. Murmillo damage speculation.

>byob

not bad

other Veeky Forums guilds didnt have to register for reddit as a joining requirement

So basically from what I'm reading murmillo does garbage damage compared to every other r8 class or maybe thats just your build/items that are shit.
e.g. 900k-1mil damage per minute dragoon or 500-600k fencer not to mention sr3 aoe insanity

Guess its either shinobi will help murmillo become broken or no matter what happens murmillo will be supbar class thats only good for its shield blocking magic

>queue for Crystal Mines mission on my alt
>Current Waiting Queue: 1

Well fuck this shit.

Solo it, noob. You'll get more ore.

Lolipan

0 x whatever multiplier you're going to get is still equal 0

shinobi clones cant wear the helmet and webm I've seen are pretty weak desu

>900k-1mil damage per minute dragoon
Isn't that mostly because of Serpentine's debuff? Meaning a party with a Dragoon and any other swordsman, maybe with an inquisitor/falconer/linker? would wreck shit regardless?

Are >we going to play this

youtube.com/watch?v=kgpBXtKxaeA

It's all about purpose. Doppel has tons of damage and many damage options, and doesn't really require any set-up, but has no way of delivering that damage or surviving. In PvP, it would get instantly gibbed by any of the dozens of options for CC and killed before getting in Range. Murmillo brings enough damage to be relevant in PvE(can contribute to the party's overall damage output, but isn't the main DPS), has utility(Rodelero's large range of CCs, and Murmillo's new stuns), has the immunities from the helmet, and a gap closer(the best thing about Murmillo, Rodeleros are the antithesis of mobility). Has more than enough damage to dispose of a player and the means of actually delivering it.

>Ignore maths and facts
>Spout memes

Here's a (You).

I wanna see doppel madara on serpentine debuffed

>dragoon has the highest DPS
>because it got one single debuff that doubles melee damage
>let's ignore the fact fencer c3 and lancer got the same thing with buffs and debuffs
I don't get this meme.

That webm probably didn't have the damage attributes for the skills, or the bonus damage attributes for the helmet. The attributes for the helmet alone cost 9m+ each.

>let's ignore the fact fencer c3 and lancer got the same thing with buffs and debuffs
Be more specific, Dragoons buff increase the damage of any physical attack

>The attributes for the helmet alone cost 9m+ each.
>every level of any attribute at r8 costs 1.2m
>some attributes have 30 levels
how is anyone supposed to afford this?

Fencer gets double damage from crits, Lancer has a debuff that doubles pierce damage.

Is it possible to acquire boss cards from quest bosses? not quest rewards but from the bosses themselves

Murm does more damage than fencers.

I believe they removed all quest boss cards after this patch so the only way to get them now is WB, Cubes or MIssions

Actually Lancer's debuff more than doubles pierce damage. Quintain deals 4k without Crush's debuff, but 13k after the debuff. Still not sure what it does, probably ignore pierce resistance as well.

shame, thank you user

It's 27m total. I am only spending 18m because I'll forego the Pelt ones altogether, at least at first.

tos-kr.neet.tv/attributes/115008
tos-kr.neet.tv/attributes/115012
tos-kr.neet.tv/attributes/115013

>Fencer gets double damage from crits
Self buff
>Lancer has a debuff that doubles pierce damage.
Far too specific when compared to Serpentine's debuff. Tbh I didn't know they had such debuff

I didn't imply Dragoon2 was bad in any way, lad. Just how great that debuff would be on a physical party

so I'm guessing that everyone is going to make Fencers now dragoon and lancers are basically support tier?

its not just because of serpentine. dethrone hits 4 times and each hit can go up to more than 50k on a 16 sec cd and 2 overheat

Lancers will wipe the floor with you in pvp

>It crits
Any sensible way for a chap to get crit?
Also, it spreads damage that you deal right? Does that mean blessing is procing twice? Blessed damage line that spreads and ability reapplies bless?

but
>muh doplmada

>PvP
>the mode where everyone dies to clerics

Fencer has always been the best looking one

>Lancer
>Knockdown Attribute
>Max Lv: 30
>1% per level chance to knockdown enemies with basic attacks (togglable)
>Joust
>Destroys magic circles
>Reduces INT and Magic Attack(?) for [10 + Skill Lv] seconds
>Silences Wizards and Clerics for [10 + Skill Lv] seconds

now I just remembered that retards make Pelt Rodelero Fencers

what the fuck was that build even

>she uses Kim Hakkyu's vanilla kike advertisement loading screens instead of making her own

Still making one desu

Dodge tank something something

>Silences Wizards and Clerics for [10 + Skill Lv] seconds
>Clerics
Tested it on Cannelle and she resisted the debuff every single time. Don't count on that.

sorry I cant hear you over the sound of you killing yourself

>Any sensible way for a chap to get crit?
Zalciai scrolls, going 280+ with Cleric C1 isn't really good to be honest.
>Also, it spreads damage that you deal right?
Yes, physical damage, but it only applies blessing once since it's considered the same attack but with a wider AoE ratio

>her

Not Cannelle, but Krivis's Zalciai? You'd probably still want some dex, though. Doesn't Cannelle have Krivis and a fuckton of SPR? pls test

post yfw you're already futureproofed for r8

give me one good reason why that build is bad and why barb is a superior choice