What is the European LS equivalent? Doesn't have to be a V8, just an accessible way to make good power.
What is the European LS equivalent? Doesn't have to be a V8, just an accessible way to make good power
Colton Foster
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Jonathan Walker
Leaving out shit like >Imported LS.
Most //M BMW engines.
Rover V8 (It's a V8, but you shouldn't do this)
literally anything Cosworth/Lotus
I mean, that's just three off the top of my head, there's a lot of tuning companies here, so there are usually some good 2nd hand engines floating around you can cannibalise.
But I'm British, so it could be different elsewhere.
Brayden Gutierrez
putting in the biggest engine available for your model by butchering them or buying a set from someone who butchered a totaled car for you.
basically //M or AMG
VR6 or R32/R36 for vag
crate engines are an american thing
here in yuropoor they basically don't exist
John Miller
mostly bigger bmw engines, turbo volvos and generally the biggest turbo engine that fits in your car
Ryan Adams
the Fiat T-Jet
Kevin Cook
But the problem is that the volume (not displacement) of those engines is too large to be a practical option for many builds. The LS is just so compact by comparison to just about anything in its class
John Foster
C20XE
VAG 20vt
Oliver Hernandez
jaguar ajv8
bmw s62
Alexander Gonzalez
Cosworth YB
They drop them in anything.
Brody Turner
N54
Camden Garcia
BMW 6cyls
Julian Reyes
why is it so hard to find european crate motors?
Joshua Jones
m52/s52 and the vr6/ABA 16v.
anything else is too niche
Anthony Ramirez
>any of these
>even 1/10th of the after market availability of the GM LS V8
fucking kek
Isaiah Mitchell
>people think BMW straight sixes are comparable to GM V8's
>3.0l vs 6.0l
fuck off europoors. you'd have to be delusional to think they're even comparable
Thomas Myers
I don't think that's the point of the thread
Oliver Morgan
Sorry we have more than 3 car companies on the market and they don't sell the same outtated engines for 30 years. We are just poor yuropoors.
Kevin Sullivan
>LS equivalent
>m52
I can go to a junkyard and pull a 5.3l or even 6.0l vortec truck engine that makes 400+ hp with a cam and exhaust. probably like $600 FOR EVERYTHING
>implying the straight six from an M3 is comparable to an iron block truck motor that can be found in every late model GM pickup in north America
even my actual LS1 (aluminum block) is only worth around $2500 for a complete harness/engine. it makes 325 hp N/A stock
Wyatt Gonzalez
I think they're talking about aftermarket and not raw power.
Just a cheap euro engine with a large aftermarket that makes it cheap and easy to make power.
Jackson Williams
>outdated
>gm LS V8
>not industry leading automotive design
>not the best thing since rubber tires
stay salted euro wounds
Jackson Reyes
>implying a straight six bmw or niche european turbo 4 has the after market support of a GM V8
eurofags think V8's are only found in unobtainable luxury vehicles
we have 300 HP N/A work vehicles in every working class laborers driveway.
a chevy pickup truck has more aftermarket support than any euro fag luxury car
Kayden Peterson
Yeah they're really pushing rocker arm industry forward.
Nathaniel Gray
>muh pushrods
>implying you know anything about engine design or building engines
kill yourself
literally the only argument i've ever heard from some euro or jap fanboy is "HURR DURR AMERICAN, HURR DURR PUSHRODS"
is there anything else?
Angel Perez
>people think OHC is more modern than OHV
kek
Colton Lewis
>VR6
KEK
You mean an Alfa Romeo V6 busso
Jack Thompson
C20NE
reliable, easy to maintain and it will cost you 50€ and an afternoon
Jace Miller
buy a Judd v8, they get dropped into hillclimb cars all the time.
Nathaniel Barnes
Engine swaps are very hard/expensive to register
Mason Foster
In the UK the tax goes against the car not the engine, you could lob a v8 into a hatch/family car registered as a 4cyl and not pay a penny above what it was first registered with.
Ryan Wilson
>the only argument i've ever heard
You must be new here then. How about
>Muh power to displacement ratio
>Muh being outruned by yuro or jap six cylinder engined cars
>Muh crossplane can't rev
Jackson Ward
Its not a thing here really, people just cannabalise engines from crashed/scrapped cars.
Gabriel Reed
Opel's 2.0L DOHC I4
VW's 1.8L Turbo (pic related)
Rover's V8 engine (which was originally a Buick engine and is actually related to the 3800 V6, however loosely.)
BMW's I6 engines.
Caleb Garcia
>Implying I was implying that
Blake Bennett
>an accessible way to make good power
Turbo/sc, at least in Scandinavia.
Brayden Baker
holy fuck the americans in here are fucking retarded and can't read
Henry Taylor
that would be illegal.
Elijah Walker
what are you, some kind of faggot?
Levi King
Actually you are wrong. If 10k can build 600hp LS then speaking from experience a bmw M30 3.4L with 10k of upgrades and turbo supporting mods can easily push out 600hp. There is an e28 m30 running 907hp on youtube. Almost half capacity of an LS and more power.
Best euro power plant for a quarter the price of an LS is an m30, e28 e34 e32 has them. Ive got an e34 535i
Joshua Roberts
>If 10k can build 600hp LS
you can build one for cheaper than 10k
Hunter Hernandez
So basically none then huh
Thomas Martin
another tread that goes into the trash
Lucas Mitchell
Can all the amerifags calm the fuck down!
Any engine can be made as powerful or more powerful than an LS motor.
It just depends on your budget and because most of you americans are poor rednecks that like the roar of a v8 but dont have any real money to take it to its potential you just rave about the LS because HURR DURR CHEAP...
Everything comes down to how much money you want to spend and what you want the power for.
This thread is filled with poor euros (respect for cheap power solutions) and redneck hillbillys (no respect for being boring and original)
Jordan King
For 10K, I can literally build a 1,500HP LS.
Blake Adams
The 3800 proves it's greatness again
Hudson Morales
>the triggered LS americuck just getting angry for no reason
holy fucking kek