Why has the testosterone of men in developed countries declined so quickly as of recently...

"Urbanite faggots" are what runs your country

Hell even Hitler was an "urbanite faggot", literally a hipster art student in Vienna living with his mother's money.
Which is funny but not a bad thing.

The point being : if you are as traditionalist as you say, you should realize your place in this world, and pay a little more respect to the upper classes.

Fuck off back to /pol/, you deluded cuck-fetishist.

He isn't making a statement on blacks let alone race at all.

and 3rd worlder men are being btfo by 3rd worlder women since they are willing to work for even cheaper!

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You realize almost all of his claims there are in dispute?

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Veeky Forums isn't /pol/. Take you victim mentality elsewhere.

Cheers.

Anime and video games.

Considering there is a certain "chosen people" who will dispute literally anything, I cannot say I am surprised.

This article directly appertains to OP's question.

Btw, do you receive compensation for policing this board or do you... do it for free?

I bet you're such a pillar of masculinity.

I just really enjoy decent conversation. Not paranoid fantasies bordering on the schizophrenic.

That the Jews have a disproportionate representation in the entertainment industry, including pornography, is an established fact.

There's nothing fantastical at all about that, however what is fantastical is the suggestion that this is somehow a coincidence.

Not an argument

Pornography is the answer.

people are too busy jacking off
and they do it too much

>Not paranoid fantasies bordering on the schizophrenic.
Strange

He's presenting coherent arguments

You're just calling names and handwaving

Porn causes erectile dysfunction ?

Porn addict here, i do agree its totally the fault of the jews corrupting me, in fact every time i finish i feel sad afterwards.

However i am hard all the time, which is inconvenient actually. Not the other way around.

In fact it gets hard so often, and i have such a compulsion to jerk off every time it happens, one day i jacked off so much i literally came BLOOD.

It scarred me mentally i swear. I blame the jews.

Depends. Do barbarians have nuclear weapons?

Also a NEET with proper training and an AK 47 could beat 20 knights from middle ages no problem.

We don't have "classes" in the U.S., eurofag.

I bet I made "men" like you cry, and just happen to have shot the fuck out of some third world brown skins in my time, bitch.

Blame yourself instead and stop being so pathetic that you have no willpower and can't resist temptation

This. Fucking apply yourself.

Estrogen in the tap water since the introduction of the birth control pill. The women who take birth control piss more estrogen than usual, which cannot be filtered in water treatment.

>you're only a man if you work a shit job with shit pay!
lul

>DA JOOS

>stop it stop it g-d's chosen people are completely innocent you dumb goy

understand this concept. If gender is not a social construct and is mostly genetic like sex, why would any type of social conditioning have an effect of creating "numales" or more feminine men? It's such a flaw in logic.

>It's another 'apply shit I saw on /r9k/, Veeky Forums or /pol/ to real life' thread

Because while gender doesn't exist, gender roles do, which can easily subjugate the biological and replace it with the societal, especially on men with weaker will powers

>The real working men of the U.S. would be able to pick up the average 3rd worlder and drop him on his head.
found the beta

I bet you like to be noticed by women and try to make them cum

are you homo or something?

kek , it's like you're not even listening to yourself. If only you actually studied genetics. .You would understand. Think for a second, just once in your pathetic life. If the biological is easily replaced then perhaps biology in of itself is not so strong and environment(social and physical) has always heavily effected how biology expresses itself, e.i. genes.Not just over 100,000s of years but withing a lifetime. Have you heard of epigentics with chromosome histones btw? That's one aspect to consider. Hell some rabbits change their fur color based on the seasons.

>Why has the testosterone of men in developed countries declined so quickly as of recently? Erectile Dysfunction was not a major issue for men until recently and there were no beta males back our grandparents generation of the 20s and 30s.
hahahahaha [citation needed]

some of the biggest "betas" i've ever heard of were from hundreds of years ago, and claiming ED is a "modern" problem is suspicious as best

what a shit thread

t. beta and loving it

nice comeback bro. You sure showed my logic a thing or two.

just let the man post his infographs and enjoy his le redpilling

Shut up you khazar fucking cocksuckers I will obliterate you. The truth on kikes need to get revealed. I'm a fucking boss and you wish you could be like me so stop with the ad hominem. The Talmud is a filthy book for Khazars going straight to eternal shame and anguish.

>If the biological is easily replaced then perhaps biology in of itself is not so strong

Shut up and study some genetics. Like the actual mechanics.

>The most important aspects of my body, which determine how I interact and relate in relative to my environment, aka physical dimensions are determined by biology

Look, humans are a bunch of monkeys who swarm around boss monkeys who swarm around higher boss monkeys...

Don't fucking say...no, don't fucking THINK "epigenetics" until you actually know what you're talking about. And to know what you're talking about, you have to do work other than being smug in two subterreanean assumptions
1. Biology is just as simple of a set of interfaces as the language I use to describe culture is, and therefore society by extension is just as important (coughSIMPLEcough) as biology
2. That you are on the side of "right culture" when it comes to the war of all against all and that you know all the right language and think all the right ideas.

And you know why I said "don't fucking think epigenetics"?

Because you have no fucking idea how it works or what it means. All it means is that your right culture WILL prevail in the war of all against all. That's all epigenetics means for 99.9% of you motherfuckers.

something something nazi germany

Haven't you all seen Dr. Strangelove? Conspiracy theories against "the west" drive lunatic impotent men, it's nobody else's fault that you're impotent OP

Conspiracy theory? Nah.

It's a fucking bunch of apes bombarding their bodies with increasing amounts of physical collisions w ith substances with unknown probability maps of risk and increasing constant intensity of stimuli.

For god sakes you had the armed forces around the world on fucking meth during WWII.

Our turn-of-the-century ancestors plunged headfirst into chaos and now we have to get out of this shitpit called Earth.

Oh god and increasing population densities stress out the unconscious social evaluation systems of a lot of neurologies. Imagine a mind tortured trying to map out value and relationship between ever-increasing number of nodes...

Space is the only mass relief other than direct neural augentation. The...desensitization necessary to not give a fuck is beyond most men.

Because: 1. incline in malnutrition and obesity, 2. decline in physical activity.

>you have to be limp-wristed faggot working an office job to make decent cash
lul

Oh I know how it works, it can even be inherited through methylation patterns. Notice I specified histone/ chromosome modification epigenetics. Epigentics simply means "outside or above genetics" I'm not saying that genetic factors aren't in play at all bro.In many cases the are. Keep in mind however, these same genes can be regulated by the environmental changes that trigger other regulatory genes and proteins too. Look up gene regulation machinary.
Behavior however is one of the most slippery things to label with simple genetics though. We don't even understand the full biological details of thought or decision before we make a distinction between what is and isn't conscious/ hard wired. There is also brain plasticity which may or may not fit in a few ways with some epigenetics. It is you who is over simplifying everything. You can't even isolate a single gene associated with }manly behavior/ thinking" yet you will claim that gender is genetic.

But there are genes that account for more muscle mass than women, for a larger height, smaller pain sensitivity, hell, men's collagen fibers are more "crissy-crossy" than women, which is why women develop cellulite and men can do the stereotypical act of opening jars

Gender is genetic when the phenotypical characteristics that make up "gender" seem to be pretty damn genetic.

Let's use a metaphor, biology (in particular, the sex drive) as water and social systems as a pipe. Social systems reward those in the top of the system with a fire hydrant to release the pressure. Those on lower positions of the social system have contradictory motivations and the pipe never terminate in a sufficently large fountain. They can either commit a crime, be fucking desperate, or lower their sex drive to relieve the pressure.

More feminine men come out of the adaptation to the hypertrophic power for the top rungs of society and their lowered value. But most humans pass off any blemish as a quirk without actually facing it head-on. They never improve themselves to get what they desire, they trick themselves into contortions to lower or mask their desire.

They are men. But 80% of people are (bearable) faggots and so are these men. Except they're unbearable in a visual sense.

>there were no beta males back our grandparents generation of the 20s and 30s.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Short_Happy_Life_of_Francis_Macomber

This example is by no means the first story about a beta male.

Average tesosterone levels have fallen over the past 6-7 decades.

Any FtM tranny will tell you how powerful the behavioral changes are from even "minor" alterations.

And compounding this, you have the peanut shell thrones of infinite space aka computers to reinforce the already natural human tendeny to ignore weakness and focus on strength. So introverted betas are getting more "introverted betaey" than before.

I'm sure it is, but it's most likely more complex than sexists like you make it out to be.
Those males are simply acting in accord with the environment. (unbearable)Visual sense is just based on what you were raised to accept. If you were raised on different societal norms, it'd be easy for you to be like them. A lot of the young boys these day are, mainly because they're parents are being meta or spooked. If it is so simple to changer their outlook on the world then, again, gender based behavior may hardly be ingrained in us. I would argue that perhaps men and women have different perspectives on a few things in life. I can't confirm this is nature 100% though. Making such sweeping assumptions is poor science.

Sure, it's not the negative feed back loops that result when you suddenly inject differing concentrations of a hormone onto one's body that is usually specifically set or working towards a known amount/equilibrium.
It's gradual changesbeing carefully applied by the body.Oh wait.. you're an idiot.

>Making such sweeping assumptions is poor science.

Ignoring the vast reality that stares you in the face every day is poor science.

Women and men have different mental orientations and different physical capacities, with exceptions.

90% of men will be stronger than 100% of the women. The top 1% of women is only stronger than the lowest 9-10% of men.

Why would I send a woman to combat when I could send a man? Why would I send someone who can produce children to be slaughtered?

Those physical differences, alone, prune, create, and reinforce decisional heuristics. If you're stronger relatively, you leverage that strength to gain power.

Likewise, why would you need muscles on someone who needs to take care of a child for years? She's already defended. What she needs is patience for linguistic interfaces and repition of them. A man gets tired of saying shit after a while. Talking is precisely most women manipulates people. Most men try to manipulate situations.

I'm not "sexist". I just see fucking reality and it doesn't have to be equal or fair or bow to my innate aesthetics.

Yeah, they inject "a hormone" for shits and giggles. Levels of testosterone have nothing to do with stereotyped examples of masculine behavior.

Given that autism is correlated with high testosterone, and the prevalence of autism in the developed world it's more likely that testosterone levels are rising.

theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/03/boys-with-autism-likely-exposed-to-more-hormones-in-the-womb

Prenatal levels in Denmark =/= Levels in the US of adult men. Not to mention the fucking article itself mentions that the correleation does not mean a causitive link, only that the pathology of some form of autism in these kids started in the womb.

Remember, we're exposed to all sorts of endocrine disruptors and just substances with unknown harm factors in this society. That's important once you're shat out the womb.

Why do you have to post such a shit thread? As if this board isn't already worse enough

>90% of men will be stronger than 100% of the women.
sex= gender. You're doing it again, user
Testosterone increases muscle tone and blood supply what of it?
Because they have men to rely on some times, they can rely on the all the time? What of when she's put in an unfortunate situation?
Women, like all humans, have thought process and executive functions. They will manipulate when the environment rewards them for doing so. IF they are no longer rewarded, or at least get rewarded for other behaviors, then they will switch their strategy or at least vary it. Men will do the same. Humans are smart enough to switch strategy and plan willingly within a life time. Society is a big part of that. More so within a generation. We've see this already. The fact that fields that women were always discouraged from have more women than ever( even if it is still less than men). If gender were all or even mostly genetic, the amount of women studying math for example would stay at 0-1% instead of more than 20% as it is currently.
Yet there are still norms that push women into considering child care more than men and don't let man consider it more.

tbqh, I never understood the argument: women should strive to be good mothers...Women can self actualize in different ways as can men. Sometimes in multiple things, some with one thing.
Don't both men and women want to be good parents? Don't give me that b.s. that being a "father" and "mother" is different. At the end of the day, your priority should be to have been a good enough parent to give kids physical necessities, help your kids feel self worth, respect others, and self actualize( which may or may not be solely raising great kids of their own). Any man or women can be happy when they can do that for their child and it can happen regardless of how the mother or father acts. They could both act in the same way sometimes, or different.

This

>roguehealthandfitness.com
Fuck off with your shitty source.

>Veeky Forums actually take a fucking supplement sales website at its word
Are all of you this dumb?

Are you arguing with a /pol/ poster?

Im done actually. going to sleep. You're right they are a lost cause. just sage the thread or something.

>Yet there are still norms that push women into considering child care more than men and don't let man consider it more.
Because since prehistorical fucking times it's been the men that hunt and provide food while the women take care of the children. Fucking chimps do this, as did the early modern man.

Not to fucking mention that the child bond is far stronger in women than in men, and the baby is soothed more by the mother's face than the father's, and you understand that you're going against human biology

Found the stupid amerifag

Cool story bro

"they can rely on the all the time? What of when she's put in an unfortunate situation? "

That's a good question. Single mammilian moms in the wild have significantly higher levels of testosterone which would make sense in the context of not having a male to provide and the necessity of being aggressive as a solitary mom. Similar changes happen to single primate moms as well.

But why would you want an aggressive overbearing mother as a child? Surely you have a father to be the angry one and the mother to be the soothing one...

Gender roles are an efficient division of labor amongst biological machines with different sets of levers and motivational switches.

> women should strive to be good mothers

Women, by definition, are part of the sex that carries a fetus to full term, births it to delivery, and bonds with it over a lifetime.

Can't you see why the fuck being a good mother would be emphasized? Do you want your fetuses and children to be carelessly fucked with? You want to burden a pregnant woman with another exhausting role?

Fucking idiots.

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>cheers

Always comes off as passive aggressive butthurt from brits

>biological machines with different sets of levers and motivational switches.

Fuck off with your high schooler reductionism.

Trying to pidgeonhole human behavior as merely the result of social upbringing, amongst various extremely simplistic ideologies, is reductionism at its worst.

Reductionism is blaming the kid with ADD for being a failure. Reductionism is trying to explain neuromechanics as merely a balance between three transmitters (Dopamine, Serotonin, and the adrenaline upper/downer). Reductionism is trying to proffer a complete system of mechanics as a complete explanation of human behavior.

Saying that organisms have different sets of levers and motivational switches is not reductionism, it's trying to analogize something which is extremely difficult to describe (biological mechanics and feedback) without technical knowledge and jargon.

Cheers is rarely used sarcastically in Britain, he's probably a yank pretending to be British.

lol upper classes Hitler was a dirt poor bohemian when he lived in vienna, more like a young tramp then a hipster

4/10 you made me answer
And i laughed a little too

>Like always, the barbarians eventually win

I don't know if that'll continue to be the case. It's swiftly reaching / maybe has already reached a point where weapons technology has made the actual physical fitness of the average soldier less relevant.

Currently we still need healthy soldiers to do infantry work, but nowadays you can kill Ahmed in Iraq from your couch in Utah with a drone. We'll probably start rolling out fully automated tanks and shit next.

Perhaps we'll still need boots on the ground, but less and less as time goes by.

Of course if you just mean "a more energetic and warlike state always wins" you're probably still right, they just won't need strong virile soldiers.

>"bohemian"
>not the hipsterest of all hipsters
pic related literally the google result for "bohemian"

>unironically using the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a source
>somehow the precense of Jews makes this a conspiracy against the superior Aryan Race
>not taking into account that most of these Jews are hardly Jews in any sense other than ethnicity
>nevermind how the hundreds of Jews in the entertainment industry would even interact with each other to formulate their evil schemes against the White Race
>conveniently disguising this logical fallacy as an actual argument, despite its basis being nothing more than an ad hominem
wew lad

in 2016, real bohemians were people who lived in voluntary poverty and survived as artists and performers, rubbing shoulders with prostitutes and downright criminals and hobos, and associated with drug culture. In fact prostitutes technically are bohemians and probably the only real ones around anymore. If you think about hipsters as middle class youths gentrifying run down poor urban areas while living in comfort and privelage, bohemians actually lived in those areas in the same conditions as the underclases and in the same circle and culture as small time criminals

I shirk back in cowardice each time a woman notices me and my penis brings me great shame

Testosterone is the result of harsh condition. Testosterone will will decrease as Africa develops more and more and their society normalizes. The Chinese have low testosterone but that's because their civilization had been a very long lived one. Stability was common and wars were short lived. West has had couple hundred years of relative stability. We're moving towards low testosterone society.

Thats not to say all people in civilized world have low testosterone, no, there are people with high testosterone and they live in prison.

Food, pollution, microplastics, etc.

Since the industrial age, humanity has split into two branches. We, what you call "urbanites" who are advanced in intellect and morality; and you yokels, brutes who live underground.

Oh my, the rabble is getting aroused again

Till your fucking fields peasant

I applied my dick to your grandmas grave just yesterday, does that count?

Yes.