I remember reading on Veeky Forums a couple days ago about some Scandinavian philosopher who's contribution to existential philosophy was the idea that humans were God's way of killing himself. That existence was so burdensome God -- who cannot die, because he is eternal and outside space and time and yadda yadda yadaa -- became man through the Son, just so he could die.
Not for our sins -- just to die. That we didn't kill God, God killed himself because he *knew*.
That's not that depressing if Jesus didn't know he was God. That God, though he doomed, became an pretty good human being and redeemed humanity in its own eyes. That's not too depressing.
Aiden Scott
cioran
all he does is talk about how shit existence is and how the only good things about life are Bach and that we have the option to kill ourselves
Josiah Watson
It's true - nothing depresses me more than the sound of rap music.
Jace Perry
Peter Wessel Zapffe maybe? His writings are phenomenal especially those dealing with panic and anxiety, and steps to anchor oneself. But his obscene levels of pessimism, to the point of explicit anti-natalism, make no sense to me. Thinking negatively about existence seems so unnecessary to me
Aiden James
But to continue your question almost any Scandinavian philosopher, Kierkegaard is pretty depressing too, but quite differently, since it's obvious he got a thrill form being melancholy. I guess it's just low vitamin D levels or something
William Butler
Schopenhauer
Jonathan Mitchell
Pentti Linkola.
"He advocates eugenics, genocide, and abortion as possible means to combat overpopulation. He describes the Stalinist and Nazi massacres as "massive thinning operations," but ones which have "not overturned our ethical norms". He has suggested that big cities should be attacked by "some trans-national body like the UN", with nuclear weapons or with "bacteriological and chemical attacks". Linkola has described humans as a cancer of the earth, and he desires that the human population "be reduced to about ten percent of what it is now.""
Cooper Turner
A good test of his stance is whether he volunteers first.
Dylan Miller
John Gray is generally regarded as a contemporary angsts ridden philosopher. Its not so much that he presents a new philosophy so much as he tears down humanism and all hope for the future of humanity.
Other philosophers will say that life is meaningless and full of suffering etc. but Gray is one of the few who attack hope in the future and highlight our limitations as a species which makes tragedy. He can be a bit long-winded but it hits home.
Dominic Adams
Is that book a good place to start?
Kayden Scott
Yeah, if you liked it I recommend taking on The Silence of Animals next unless you like his works with a more fervent political tone.
Mason Ramirez
Diogenes was pretty cynical. Does that count?
Chase Ross
Pretty spooky OP..
Cameron Rogers
>Pentti Linkola
Jeremiah Gray
Came here to say this.
>life = wanting something >getting that thing = no longer wanting it >life = perpetually wanting things you can't have... until you die.
Jaxon Kelly
just some edgy hippie then huh. forced sterilization of a lot of africa might be a good thing though, or maybe an engineered disease that makes you sterile after onw child birth, idk if that's possible though.
Joshua Clark
is it not happiness when you get them though? and is happiness bad?
Aaron Ward
most these cunts havent worked a day in their life to spout this shit so i dont listen to it id rather do it
the greatest thinkers of all time are the ones that not a living soul remembers
Lincoln Reyes
That's Mainländer, he was German.
Jackson Hughes
You're thinking Philipp Mainländer. God could o only kill himself by "exploding" into the universe, which will die as well due to enthropy, making everything worthless and all that.
As an antinatalist I don't think any philosopher is dark/edgy in the sense of a Saturday morning cartoon villain, most pessimists are just extreme philanthropists (who view existence as a net harm that shouldn't be imposed on future generations) and these ideas are just viewes as dark by the optimistically biased majority.
Elijah Gutierrez
>As an antinatalist Careful on that edge, lad!
Ethan Bennett
>As an antinatalist
Sebastian Howard
Hegesias. Read up on him.
Samuel Long
>As an antinatalis L M A O M A O
Michael Clark
t. Salarian
Jaxon Harris
>inferiority complex Clean my toilets bitch.
Anthony Jenkins
>As an antinatalist
Ayden Davis
Georges Sorel was a French commie who didn't actually believe that syndicalism or socialism would work, only that it was the most effective myth that would move people to action. Considering it would never work, the goal was to just wage a perpetual violent revolution literally forever.
Austin Williams
>Or maybe an engineered disease It's like you haven't even heard of AIDS
Leo Powell
I guess Ligotti? The Conspiracy against the Human Race is peculiarly pessimistic. Ligotti himself can't help but ooze spirituality and poetry but decides to sum the whole book up with EVERYTHING IS NOTHING LMAO!!!111eleventeen
I think it's a classic case of ego-superego memetics.
Easton Lee
i always wonder if these depressed philosophers would have drastically different views if only they had a constant supply of hot bitches to satisfy them
Cameron Torres
I would support the forced sterilization of people who type "idk" and refuse to capitalize.
Jace Wright
A similar thinker once noted that "liking nature is an euphemism for hating people."
Joseph Foster
Mills West's "Blackpill" philosophy is pretty damn depressing.
>All social interactions are in constant, self-reinforcing cycles. People who are successful socially develop positive outlooks, gain more social skills, are able to interact with people, and go on from height to height. People who struggle interacting with others are labeled creepy and weird and even when they try to imitate the techniques of socially more successful people, they fail because of the reputation they've already acquired. >It's pretty much all determined by genetics, especially height and facial bone structure. >You will forever be doomed to be cucked by GENETICALLY SUPERIOR MALES
Oliver Peterson
That's just typical bro-science. It's not even particularly depressing unless you're an omega cuck. At any rate it's not worse than the average anti-egalitarian philosophy.
Brandon Cook
> despite previous success and superior genetics > you can be cucked by dumb luck or misfortune The alternative also pretty depressing as it goes into fatalism where fate rolls the dice for you.
Christian Wright
I want to live in a world with less people in it, but I don't agree with killing the ones already here to do so. Rather, move towards methods that reduce birth rates naturally.
Jordan Turner
I remember blackpill I miss old /pol/, at least they didn't leak out so much
Nolan Moore
Offering convenient euthanasia procedures and removing the taboo surrounding suicide would do wonders too, and wouldn't be as morally condemnable as mass murder. At the very least the world would certainly be a better place with less miserable people around.
