Why does Russia have such a strong tendency to produce cruel and autocratic leaders?

Why does Russia have such a strong tendency to produce cruel and autocratic leaders?

Putin is a good man.

>good

A certain degree of strong hand is required to hold Russians under control.

Russians are bipeds with the souls of dogs, without a strong master to kick them around they'd just wander into the snow and starve to death

>autocratic
How is Putin an autocrat? He enjoys the support of Russian people and derives his power from that support.
You can call him authoritarian, but not an autocrat.
And to answer your question, it's a product of Russian/Orthodox culture, and also a product of history.
Russia faced many challenges and Russia is a huge country, so stern leadership is required.

Putin and Aleksandr Dugin are the future.

How does Russia "democracy" works? Isn't that guy in his like 5th term?

>it's not democracy if leader is elected several times
Wow I didn't know Germany is a dictatorship.

He switches offices every eight years

President - Prime Minister - President - Prime Minister

Coincidentally whatever office he's holding at the moment is the de facto head of state while the other office is purely ceremonial until he returns to it. It's perfectly constitutional because Russia doesn't have lifetime non-consecutive term limits

In fairness, Putin circumventing the consecutive term limit by putting a puppet on the throne for a couple of years is strong shenanigan, to say the least

This Germany is just what it is because germans are cucks

It's nothing illegal or undemocratic.
Besides, Medvedev is not a puppet really, people mostly fail to understand how Russian politics look like.

In fairness, Reagan circumventing the consecutive term limit by putting his puppet on the throne for a couple of years is strong shenanigan, to say the least

It's a pretty weak argument to compare Putin to previous autocratic rulers like Stalin and Ivan IV, Putin's Russia is worlds away from what Russia was 70 years ago or 300 years ago.

It's a viable to argue that he's authoritarian, but arguing that he's autocratic doesn't hold much evidence as he does have public support, and is binded by his "social contract" he promised to the Russian people to keep bread on the table and stable living conditions, a contract he's largely upheld which earns him the support he enjoys.

Is this the Russian apologetics thread?

DAILY REMINDER: Holodomor never happened.
DAILY REMINDER: Stalin raised the standard of living in Russia immensely.
DAILY REMINDER: Russia was the only bulwark against National Socialism.
DAILY REMINDER: The tsars were more often than not liberal reformers; it was the corrupt nobility that held back your average Russian pre-1914.
DAILY REMINDER: Putin is the greatest European leader of the past 60 years.
DAILY REMINDER: Russia is the last bastion of freedom and dignity in the world.

The holodomor happened and I'm not too sure about the freedom part and the Tsar's. But everything else is correct.

>Putin is the greatest European leader of the past 60 years.
He is though.

Yeah. For lack of competition.

Although I agree with these statements - to a certain degree - they still do not explicitly state any reasons.

'Culture and history' is rather vague, isn't it? Autocratic tendencies can be seen in a number of other countries which are neither Christian Orthodox nor have a history similar to that of the Russian peoples. I think it would be interesting to analyze this issue in depth, perhaps it could lead to something greater.

because Putin changed constitution to make it limitless

Oh wow....

>Medvedev is not a puppet

Explain?

I mean, if the people like him, is it really a crime?

FDR and his cronies held America for 20 years

>How is Putin an autocrat?

Because he has absolute power, is above the law, and openly murders political opposition. That he happens to be popular is not relevant.

National socialism was preferable to communism dickhead. Communism is objectively the most evil ideology in the world, private property is a sacred right. Stalin also killed millions and set the USSR on a path to failure, no system where one man holds that much power can persist after said man is gone.

because it's a hell hole

This.

I don't know why, but Russians are subhuman shits. Just like Chinese from example. I'm talking about culturally, not ethnically. Chink and russian can both be normal, raised in a western society.

China was great for much of it's history, don't even compare it to Russia.

>he fell for the strong leader meme

Collectivism is cancer.

>country has oil
>sell oil
>economy grows again because oil
>retard in charge fucks it up and countries stop buying your shit
>your economy produces almost no consumer goods
>????????
>depression
>even at its peak, your country was poorer and shittier than the rest of Europe

Go be a cuck somewhere else.

Holodomor happened, but the Russians are not responsible for it, mostly because the Soviet leadership was mainly composed of ethnic minorities.

>Stalin raised the standard of living in Russia immensely

He completed the necessary process of forced industrialization and complete overhaul of the Russian society

>Putin is the greatest European leader of the past 60 years

Only one of the greatest.

>Russia is the last bastion of freedom and dignity in the world

They're managed by it's indigenous people and they pose an imminent threat to Western dominance in global politics

Cold War's over, in case you've missed the last two decades.

It would've never come to Communism if it weren't for several American businessmen financing the rise of Bolshevism in Russia, together with the German banks that've operated on the orders of the Emperor himself, that is.

So was Russia, if you exclude the Mongol yoke and the early period of the Soviet Union, but China is objectively better.

Actually, country is taken over by a competent underdog, he declares amnesty, completely reforms the political and administrative structure, takes out key individuals that could prevent Russia from regaining her power, eliminates a good number of oligarchs who've refused to work with him, got the rest of them in line and yes, he spearheaded the development of a competent oil industry.

>even at its peak, your country was poorer and shittier than the rest of Europe

The rest of Europe wasn't systematically destroyed several times over and the rest of Europe certainly didn't lose almost 84 million of it's inhabitants.

>Go be a cuck somewhere else

Spare me from your /pol/ reasoning, it's quite unbecoming.

>The rest of Europe wasn't systematically destroyed several times over

HAHAHAHAHA

HOLY SHIT

OH CHRIST I'M DYING

Mongol heritage

Russia has had gigantic borders for a very long time and has a geographical need for a strong ruler to compensate for the comparatively small population as a result.

Vatnik butthurt is strong ITT

They have been subjected to Feudalism for so long that they have a biological affinity towards bootlicking.

What does owning a giant empty forest have to do with being cruel?

Russia has never had a strong influence from the western schools of philosophical thought. It went from tsarist rule (first under tyrrany then hobbsian absolutism under peter) this continued well into the 19th century when serfdom was finally abolished, just in time for hegelian and marxist influence, which led to socialism. As that was breaking up, a new government was set up by the same group of rulers from the old regime, assassinating those who stood against the new government, or at the very least censoring them. Russia has been an intellectually repressed country for centuries, its only natural that russia is like this.

I'm talking about todays Russian people in general. Culturally, behaviourally. Just like Chinese of today, or for example, indonesians are like that aswell.

1. Yes it did.
2. Even if this is arguably true, that standard was very low compared to neighbouring countries.
3. Fascism was the only bullwark against Communism. They both suck.
4. I actually think that you can make this argument.
5. Maybe? At least say one of the greatest.
6. Meh.

The definition of the word "Russian" is failure to be human.

> muh putin
Four leaders before him was complete push overs, user. Five, if you include, Medvedev.

Eastern Europe was similarly devastated but alas, the same can't be said for Western and Northern Europe.

Because you need to be stern to maintain a country that has too many urban settlements and too small a population to properly form a cohesive society.In other words, the Russians are too scattered and have a tendency of fragmenting larger states into many smaller ones.
Also,

Khruschev was pretty based, Brezhnev was a non entity, Gorbachev was a cuck and Yeltsin was a retarded gook

Khruschev was literally the only Russian leader who just resigned from post. So he wasn't really that autocratic.

Putin is an old school conservative, he is a good leader

Stalin was a ruthless leader, but he pulled up Russia, crushed Nazi Germany, and made the Soviet Union into a superpower. It wasn't the fault of Stalin most of the rest of the Soviet leaders were clueless on how to run a planned economy.


Putin is setting Russia to a path of failure with his Eurasian project.

Kazakhstan doesn't give a fuck about Russia anymore , neither does China.

Instead of becoming closer to the EU and US he chose the path of autism, by being paranoid over Ukraine and Syria. Which is ironic because they lost a lot more influence because of those two conflicts.

I see a lot of accusation and not a whole lot of proof there, friendo.

Shit pops up, gold drowns.
Because russians simply dont let any proficient and caring ruler to appear. Every nation gets the government it deserves©

Actually it is. Legitimacy is all that matters. If the people are behind him then he is in the right.

>Putin is setting Russia to a path of failure with his Eurasian project.
Nope, he and Aleksandr Dugin are leading Russia to the best future. Stop sucking EU and US dick. They are to blame for the majority of the instability in the world.

Russia only has the ability to cause instability in its small region of the world so far, but I'm sure based on how they treat the Baltics (vaguely threatening to annex them when they get the chance), Georgia (where they have promoted political chaos and the breakaway of two regions that were immediately gobbled up by Russia), Moldova (where they use another separatist movement to their ends), Ukraine (where they have sent their army in to act as "volunteers" for a pretend rebellion and annexed territory, lied about annexing the territory, then claimed that their lying about the annexation showed great strength and courage), and the Central Asian states (where Russia encourages corruption and political instability to further its ends) that if they could do as they pleased they would destroy the entire Eastern hemisphere for a bag of half-empty vodka bottles. They attacked regions vital to trade in oil and natural gas (Ukraine, pissing off Turkey, etc), their only real economic output, and acted surprised when Western sanctions were put in place to boot. They have destroyed the economy for everyday citizens while the novo-nomenklatura still enjoy their lives of luxury. When I talked to friends recently they told me they ate meat once or twice a month now, because inflation is so bad. The government of Russia and the tsarist dick-sucking of Dugin are bad for Russians, and it's bad for the rest of the world too.

They whinge about NATO being arrayed against them (muh US and EU imperialism), but it's obvious that the only reason to fear the defensive alliance is because you'd like to pluck its members apart (as Russia has ceaselessy demonstrated in Georgia, Ukraine, etc, to border Russia and not be in NATO is suicidal). Thank god the US and EU are in control of world affairs, and that Russia never will be.

>"Bad men have no songs" -- how is it the Russians have songs?

What did he mean by this?

>bitching about Russia for harassing its neighbours
>Turkey does the same shit but it's alright because they're in NATO

>implying anyone here likes Turkroaches
>implying Ergodan isn't Putin's mirror image
>implying Russians aren't just Arabs born in white bodies

Where did I ever defend Turkey? This "if you dislike X you must be for Y" bullshit is retarded. Erdogan's government is shit too, but its biggest city (Istanbul) straddles the only way out of the Black Sea (and most commerce still happens over water, making it important to Russia's economy), and the two countries were in talks for oil pipeline routes. Russia's government is bad for Russia's government, and all Russians, all its neighbors, essentially.

Not sure if troll or politically illiterate