How come every car company goes to shit after its bought off, except when Ford owned Mazda?

Wherr is that? Cuz what im reading is that ford couldnt keep up with engine tech and small cars/trucks. So they struck a deal with mazda for chassis and engines.
Which is why most fords even into 2016 still use mazda chassis and engines...

Thatcher was a fucking cunt who didn't let the British auto industry be saved by Honda.

Dumb cunt just decided to sell everything.

why would a larger company buy a burden and 'fix it up'?

you spend money on things that will benefit your organization

You want to stop reading Mazda fansites user.

Wikipedia is your friend.

Lol
Please inform me then

How are Mazda going to survive another decade? They're like another Mitsubishi but don't have televison and insurance arms to support them.

>The cooperation had begun in 1971 when the Mazda B-Series spawned a Ford Courier variant for North America, a version which was later offered in other markets as well.

>Mazda's Familia platform was used for Ford models like the Laser and Escort beginning in 1980, while the Capella architecture found its way into Ford's Telstar sedan and Probe sports models. During the 1980s, Ford gained another 20-percent financial stake, and in 2002 Ford gained an extra 5-percent financial stake. Particularly in the Asia-Pacific markets, Ford-badged Mazda products replaced much of their own lineup. The Ford Festiva, Laser, and Telstar were also sold in Japan alongside their Mazda-badged brethren.

Now keep sam fagging your thread, OP.

They are fine. Dont know why people assume they arent.
They are selling tech and chassis to toyota now.

>They are selling tech and chassis to toyota now.
>making this out to be a big deal

Toyota has $$$$$$

No? Really?

Nah not really.

Ford buying stake in Mazda would mean Ford was propping up Mazda.......

You dont know much about business do you?

So your saying Lamborghini was helping Chrysler all those years, when Chrysler bought them?

>company has something you want
>write contract in a way that gets you what you want and in return you will invest in said company
>now youre set for a return investment in the future while still getting what you wanted.
Its simple logic

Only the 2.0 and 2.3 ecoboost engines are based on Mazda's L engine, and they are the least reliable of the bunch.

Then why didn't Ferd made their own?

>Mazda
>anything special worth mentioning
Literally only weebs and old people that just want a boring A to B car buy Mazda
Let that sink in.
They're also butt ugly.

They did, with the 1.0, 1.6, 2.7, 3.0 and 3.5 Ecoboost engines.

>he actually believes this

>opposite of truth troll arrives

Its business 101 moron.

It's true.
They make good cars, except the Skyactiv engines are literal shit and they're really boring overall.

Where do doritos fit in to this?

>worst tripfag
>thinks his oppinion is fact
>doesnt even know what skyactiv is
>europoor
Kek

They fit on your specialised mechanic garage.

My opinion counts as much as yours, silly.

And Skyactiv is shit. Be it the petrol or (especially) the diesel.

I'm the user talking about ford creating their own ecoboost engines, just look at the table on the ecoboost wikipedia page, it clearly lists each engines origin family. The 2.0 and 2.3 ARE the least reliable ecoboost engines and are the only ones based on mazda tech.

I posted facts in thos thread. Not oppinion
You cant even explain what skyactiv is much less why it would be bad to get great gas mileage while making a fair amount of power

They are unreliable because ford deviated from mazdas original designs. Especially with electronic componants.
The other engines are derived from the same tech mazda passed onto ford.

Skyactiv is literally a buzzword for strained engines running insane compressions which literally result in knock if you look at them wrong.
They're shit.
They also produce literally no torks and HP for the displacement.

Turbos are the way to go. And that's a fucking fact.

The cars themselves are solidly built, tho.

This thread is shit, but im a genuine Mazdabro.
Owned 5 of them so far, with varying levels of performance and reliability. I love rotary engines, and have worked on them but never owned an RX.

Mazda embodies the spirit of driving; Zoom Zoom isnt just a catch phrase, it's finding joy in the most mundane of tasks such as driving to work. Even they're van and crossovers have sporting intentions and lively chasis and handling characteristics. If you can drive a new Mazda3 on some twisties, it will show you why Mazda has gotten so popular recently. Not to mention every auto mag rates them as one of the best interior quality up there with VW for bargain.

I will digress a moment and say that reliability is probably on par with Subaru or Nissan, but not Honda or Toyota. The new SKYActiv stuff is unproven and highly advanced so those cars will start to show signs of longevity issues soon if they are gonna crap out before 100K miles.

Nope.

>meanwhile a 0.9 twinair (2 cylinder) produces more power and torks than a 1.5 Skyactiv
>while being extremely reliable

rotary is shit

>he thinks a fiat engine is good

>twinair
>reliable
kek!

So you're saying Ford applied Mazda tech to their own line of engines, creating very reliable turbo charged engines, but somehow managed to 'mess up' that same reliability on Mazda's own pre-existing engine designs already using the technology?

That's a stretch.

sure we had a thread about how shit the twinair was a few months ago

Bro, literally all of the ecoboost engines are based on Mazda tech. The 2.0 and the 2.3 just use the DISI block on top of that.

If you don't think they are, you should really inform yourself.
They're prizewinning engines using the most advanced technology in petrol engines.
Furthermore, Fiat ALWAYS had reliable engines, even in the pre-FCA era.
The cars could fall apart, but the engines were bulletproof.
But whatever, believe what you want.

*knock* *knock* *knock*

>Veeky Forums in charge of knowing anything

>you in charge of not being delusional
ur punto a shit

More reliable than your mother :^)

>breaks down every week

>implying

>FWD fiat diesel cuckboi got triggered again

TOP KEK!!!

can I get a TL;DR? why is this faggot triggered again?

...

Oh look it's the 1 liter diesel fiat retard.

Why can't we just ban mjet already?

He's basically as bad as Corey, but he's actually 100% serious.

Same reason we don't ban Hondacucks, good source for salt.

>It was I who got triggered
ehe

Mate, you're fucking cancer.

ahem

>"No"

it doesn't matter who got triggered and who didn't, what matters at the end is that you are the cuck with the europoor spec 1 liter diesel cuckbox lel

you don't have to be so assmad about your minivan

>rebbit tier rebuttal
>can't deal with the fact Skyactiv a shit

you, you you. you . you .you youyou - you you , you , you! you ? you you

whats the matter, ashamed about your cuck-tier poverty box?

>skyactiv
im not a mazda fangirl, that is not going to work out at all, try to find another way to deal with your assmad

Not mad at all, weeb friend.

oh, I see you have accepted your role as the cuck with the fwd diesel shitbox then, carry on

British manufacturing was doomed ever since we allowed unions to exist

Thatcher just accelerated the collapse by ending the unions then not bailing them out

in his defense it probably costs more to buy, insure and run than a similar year v8 pony car in the USofAyyy

you can buy a disel punto, same gen as him, for like 4k, plus its not that you cannot buy a nice used rwd coupe in europe

>you can buy a disel punto, same gen as him, for like 4k
Stop spewing shit you know nothing about and go get equinox'd, subarufag.

Nigga shut the fuck up and stop posting here forever. You tried to ask Veeky Forums about getting a lowering kit for your diesel Fiat punto. You may as well kill yourself now, you weed smoking jew.

hahah you just went full yurop

>lived in spain for a while
>"you don't know shit"

lmao ok, enjoy your fwd diesel cuckbox, cuck

poortuguese gonna poor

Nothing to see here folks, just the daily life of a yuropoor

>a retard weeb can dump his 30 year old $500 shitbox on the ground
>everyone applauds
Dem double standards.

You don't, really. Resume your paella eating and get equinox'd.

>I want to emulate people I know are retarded weebs and get congratulated
Wow, what an edgy, entitled teen

>everywhere in yurop has the same prices as the Dutch

stop being fucking dumb, amerifat you can get a v8 for less than 50k euros

ford.es/Turismos/NuevoMustang/Modelos

yes I do, I gave you a link the other day,
still you are the cuck with the fwd diesel shitbox, detrip if you want me to stop shitting on you or kill yourself to end it all

>Veeky Forums is one person

Keep trying to justify your sordid history of life choices that led you to tripfag on Veeky Forums and ask how to slam your 1l diesel Fiat punto, you dumb faggot

Its the rims

You can't mod them at all without getting knock, they are literally at there best. Even headers have caused knock.

I actually have a decent reason to get a lowering kit. And it's nothing special, since almost every brand offers a "sporty" suspension option.

You sent me an ad from a fleet Grande Punto from 2011.
If you knew anything at all, you'd know my car is the second facelift of the Grande Punto and not a fleet model.
Plus, buying in Spain is way cheaper than Portugal.
TL;DR: you're literally retarded.

Maybe I'm just a basic bitch but tb|-| f4m I like the design of the base wheels on the cuckstang over most of the upgraded wheels, but I guess I'm just really not a sucker for HUEEEG wheels with rubber band tires and I generally like shiny metal + black paint contrast

>modding an economy car
For what purpose? If you want to mod something there are a million other fun cars out there.
Like the Speed3
Also dont forget about the turbo skyactiv cx9

>I actually have a decent reason to get a lowering kit.

Yeah, and that reason is you fuckin slurp poz loadz you crummy fuck

>I actually have a decent reason to get a lowering kit.

>on a diesel subcompact shitbox
Mmmyesss please tell us about the performance gains you're getting from the improved aerodynamics of the lowered ride height

>Speed3
nolonger exist

>Cx9
A cross over

>I paid PREMIUM to get some shitty amenities in my cuckbox

LEL
E
L

>no speed3s left in the universe
Oh i forgot they dissapear after a new model year.
Cx9 would be a sweet sleeper

>entirely new engine
>entirely new interior
>amenities
You're retarded.

>being a tripfag
>asking how to slam a Fiat punto
>having a crusty chode and fucked up dick moisture levels
No, you're the retard, you fucking nigger

>n-no you don't understand!!

>it has a slightly less shitty interior!!

>it also has an unreliable diesel engine in there!!!

my fucking kekes

>lower it 3cm
>slam it
Ye, you're retarded.

>projecting this hard

>there's seriously yuropoors on Veeky Forums that get mad when you incorrectly identify the trim of their subcompact shitbox
>i-it's a 1.5L diesel, not a 1.3L, f-faggots!

why would I "project" anything faglord? I have already showed you my car, yet you keep trying after getting BTFO over and over again, fucking sad 2bh