Are there any new cars that don't suck

because Tesla wants a useful trunk under the hood.

not a place for a spare tire and your man purse, like the porsche.

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what could have been

>this is considered a horrible interior
here you go m8, a perfect console just for you.

>yfw the elr is actually a super comfy decently fun upscale volt that depreciated so hard you can get a decent one for 30k now

>that seat angle

Dear god what the fuck

>Needing both a full size trunk at the read AND a full size trunk at the front

All that should be in the frunk is a spare tyre and a man purse

>Literally 90hp and 4000lbs
>Fun

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Dodge challenger

3 different V8 engines to choose from that all come standard with the tremec 6 speed from the viper.

Little on the heavy side but you can get the R/T scat pack version with a 485 hp engine, brembo brakes all around, electronic limited diff, and viper trans for under $40k. That's a pretty kick ass deal for a nearly 4 second flat car.

The ones equipped with the 5.7 L hemi are pretty cool too since you can run 500 HP easily just by slapping on a super charger.

fun-er than a volt, at least
mostly because they use the regen braking to act like really aggressive engine braking which is kind of a unique sensation

When did you drive one?

>he doesn't have Recaro seats

>little on the heavy side
>5.7 hemi

but I am too heavy for them

these are shit tier cars imo

audi a4 avant
bmw 4 series
s90 maybe
tesla if you are eco friendly

that's about it

Yes.

talk about depreciation. those things hold value worse than used beer

Does that say $45.000 off?

AS in price reduced by $45K?

Well in my opinion the e46 bmw is overall one of the most all around useful cars, they made them in pretty much every variant, coupe, vert, wagon, sedan, manual, auto, rwd, awd, m3 etc etc. They are cheap, well balanced, sporty and fairly utilitarian. That being said the new ats Cadillac is based directly on the e46 platform. I have driven them, I am caddy salesman, and they are great.

yes, on a new car.
like i said depreciation. all personal luxury coupe style cars have this.

I want to agree so hard, but they're probably unreliable pieces of shit.

Also i love the charger SRT helcat
>707hp
>faster than challenger cos aerodynamic
>Get to bring friends
>Safe enough to not crash with no survivors
>Looks normal enough for normies to not call you out on your master plan
>only auto a shit though

Literally every italian car, tbqhwyf.

>only auto
Why is this allowed?

>FWD
>Fix It Again Tony
>diesel

See pic related.

Nobles remind of the one girl in your class that had a nice ass and body but a horrible face (the front of a Noble is ugly 2bh)

because most modern autos can shift faster than manuals no matter how good you are

may not be as fun but its the truth

That's only true of DCT's which very few cars actually use, most of them are VAG products

>muscle car
>straight line machine
>shift times actually matter for going in a straight line
>less clutch to destroy with that power
>harder to fuck up a launch

there you go

>Only goes in str8 line
>imbying
fastestlaps.com/models/dodge-charger-srt-hellcat

I gotchu senpai.
Prove me wrong.

>protip: you can't

>not posting an actual muscle car
kys

it so fat though, i want it to be sleeker like the original challenger

Safety regs mean that the beautiful old muscle cars will never return. Pic related. You'll never see that because people are worried about their children's shins.

Except F bodies weren't muscle cars. They were pony cars.

>Camaro

There are cheaper ways to tell the world you have a small penis.

>2 door
>big-block V8
>American-made
Am I missing something?

>the obligatory small penis commenter arrives

>Chrysler
>Government Motors

Why does anyone still patronize manufacturers with executives that literally spend your tax money on hookers and blow?

Oh my fucking jesus please tell me what that shit is called. I had one as a kid and it was amazing.

Yes.

Mustang was also a pony car at first.

There's no difference between pony and muscle then. Big-block V8s.

Firebird is a rebadged Camaro. Camaro was created to compete with Mustang. Therefore, Firebird is a pony car.

He is right though. Sitting in a focus is a pretty miserable experience. The dash is way too high.

>Camaro
>EVER being a pony car.
Please commit sudoku.

>trunk in the front
>elephant

It's a fact. Look it up.

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Most pony cars are muscle cars you dense fuck, they don't just have one label.

tomy racing turbo.

>4000 lbs

"no"

>4000 pounds
>707hp
If you think weight even matters when you have that much power you're a fucking retard and have never driven a car that weighed atleast 3800lbs with you in it that had 500hp/500ftlbs.

>two fucking tongs
>"little on the heavy side"

average FCA fanboy intelligence

I don't think it should have a grill, but at the same time, it looks like it's *missing* a grill rather than designed without one

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Wat
Gubment moters fanboy here
But I can respect anything fast
The fact we live in a time where you can buy 600+hp cars with a warranty is a fantastic thing, don't be dense user.

Why did you post a picture of a recall?

You're a recall

It's not all that bad, but it's so much uglier looking than it could be, and most competing cars have way better interiors.

GT 350?

dunno why but i actually like this

Reminds me of the old opels

exposed, confirmed shit

Yes if you have time machine plenty of good looking new cars
youtube.com/watch?v=wkM7A7F8roU

HOLY SHIT. Out of fucking nowhere, I remember having this fucking thing as a kid

I have a massive boner for those headlights

Best comeback ever.

Chevy Volt.

Also:

/thread

I now realize why I have such a hard on for digital dashes.

Twingo GT

honda accord with V6

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if i remember right isn't the interior pretty shit? really minimal

it looks like a pile of shit

i like the rims tho

Mercedes look absolutely disgusting now

all we have seen so far are pre production test mules.

though I prefer clean simple interiors.

v90, s90. Fucking nice looking cars man

I don't think it looks good, but it doesn't look bad either. It's plain.

I feel the same about the interior.

>biel, switzerland

Ayy Lmao
I never thought I would see based Ashens on Veeky Forums...

Don't the hellcat twins come in manual?

Yes

>Not fast
>Not safe
>Not light weight

no

Only the challenger R/T, R/T scat pack, SRT 392, and hell cat come in manual

Charger is automatic only across the board because something to do with the floor pan. It would have needed to be redesigned to pass crash testing and sales from manual chargers weren't projected to make up for the design costs.

Once again safety regulations fuck up everything....

>Once again safety regulations fuck up everything....
>everything

Because safety isn't a part of "everything", right?

I really like the new blue.

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>Not safe
Excuse me? Why does it have a top safety pick from the IIHS then?