/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

SMTIV Apocalypse information
pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

How to avoid spoilers
pastebin.com/LMEedWHf

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
collabedit.com/uvwta
pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

MTII translation project
dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5
(This build is downloadable and playable)

Starter guide
i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

Tips and tricks
pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

OST links
pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

Misc. translations
pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

Booru
smtg.booru.org/

Recommended reading
pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

Running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
pastebin.com/0gguMLyL
pastebin.com/21W8HmWY

Last thread:
veekyforums.com/thread/155352082/video-games

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=bqGcOg3giu8
aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/
veekyforums.com/thread/155352082/video-games
github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/wiki/Options-and-usage
youtube.com/watch?v=wFKyDR8J43g&index=128&list=PLcGOHQoemFze08rtZs6VCbhIhXTtAFcjT
gamefaqs.com/3ds/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/faqs/67505?page=8#section336
gamefaqs.com/boards/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/67087749?page=4
pastebin.com/eEx77acL
pastebin.com/f5APEEKA
translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://gamers-high.com/megami4-final/&prev=search
youtube.com/watch?v=tmWGBmFqhIU
mega.nz/#!1wUhwZzC!Niru70NbFfv5AdAswxg9ZbLihFzybR7Q_V4aUTJ9wl8
anarcho-monarchism.com/
veekyforums.com/thread/155464812/video-games

5mileys
5mileys

Mainline is dead.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

GET OUT

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

SMT is for casuals.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Help
Bullets of spells?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Post Pascal.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Post fucking working DLCs for undub fuck.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Fomorian is lost
What am I supposed to do.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Creating a new universe where dogo can be happy

StonedTime
StonedTime

Why would I need her when I have Nozomi and Inanna?

StonedTime
StonedTime

I want to be friends with Dagda.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

why do I need cute when I have retard and fat?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Doggo can only be happy with you user.

Endure.

Choosing traitorous sluts as your megami
Disgusting.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Anyone with DLC end up with 2x of the earring quests and 2x of the retailer clothes?

I wonder if it's because I used the RF cia, maybe I should change to the US region cia?

MPmaster
MPmaster

tfw this isn't in the pastebin
youtube.com/watch?v=bqGcOg3giu8
Nobody here has it, do they?

idontknow
idontknow

Nozomi isn't stupid, she just doesn't understand how human beings work anymore for some reason. Why she thought people other than Skins/Fujiwara would go easy on Nanashi despite the fact that he unleashed the Divine Powers is fucking beyond me.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

MY DEMONS ARE A BIT _________

Evilember
Evilember

holy shit this is great, you'll probably never find it though

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Asahi was the retard who believed Odin's lies and helped unsealed Krishna with Nanashi.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Nozomi isn't stupid, she just doesn't understand how human beings work anymore for some reason
Read that sentence again.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

She's an autist.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

WHERE THE FUCK DO I GET MEDIA

WebTool
WebTool

She spent who knows how long away from civilization trying to stop Fairies from going full retard in the forest.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Then by definition she's retarded.

iluvmen
iluvmen

She developed the tism through osmosis hanging out with the faeries

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

who is best support

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Being retarded and being an autist aren't synonymous by the medical definitions.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

anticthon fuckin' sucks now
stat down only via smirk

JunkTop
JunkTop

where the fuck do I get the dress

happy_sad
happy_sad

Random encounters - Toki because instakills
Bosses - Navarre because buffs

Bidwell
Bidwell

Okay, I just finished Twisted Tokyo, got Mother Harlot, she is a decent lv99 Demon (though after seeing the DLC demons, I feel nothing measures up).
But after beating her, I was informed that I could do nothing more until I had
eternity.

Any idea what that means?
Is it something I get in YHVH's world?

Methnerd
Methnerd

*Lucifer walks on stage. The crowd becomes energetic just at the sight of him. It is made up of mostly white middle class americans.*

"You know what I hate?"

*This single utterance is enough to send uncontrollable snickers throughout the audience as they all brace themselves for whats coming*

"WHITE"

"MALES"

*A roar of laughter emenates immediately, the loudest ones of all are the male audience members. Several of the women slip there fingers into the wetness between their thighs and begin to masturbate*

"I mean seriously, they think they are entitled to everything. We persecuted black men for centuries, all because we knew we could never compete with Jamal."

*The laughter begins to sound like screaming as the smell of bodily fluids and and sweat fill the auditorium. Many men are doubled over, there vocal cords to the point of tearing from the constant grating due to there uncontrollable laughter. In one corner, several men have begun voluntarily castrating themselves and piling there white genitalia in a pile. Almost all the women have degenerated into an animalistic state of aggression of lust. They begin to humiliate and mutilate the men, who all willingly take there punishment*

"I THINK IT'S TIME WE ALL TOOK A VISIT TO THE INTERRACIAL BREEDING FIELDS, EXCEPT FOR THE WHITE MEN OF COURSE."

*The auditorium doors are ripped apart as a horde of muscular black men rush inside many wearing no more than grass skirts and snapbacks with Stars of David embroidered on them. The frantic scene turns into what can no more than be described as an orgy of violence. White women leap onto the black mens erect penises, while the blacks start to rap Zulu chants. The white men all watch delighted, until they bow down to there negro gods. Lucifer was last seen leaping into the audience, squeeling*

"OH YES BLACK COCKS FIT THEM ALL IN MY ASS AND MOUTH I AM YOUR LITTLE PUTA AIAIAIAI LET ME FONDLE THOSE BALLS"

eGremlin
eGremlin

Toki

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

What.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

After Lucifer/Merkebah
Black Card quest
Ginza

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

[x] put it in

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

gonna bone babylon the great

SniperGod
SniperGod

Queen of Random encounters: Toki
Most boss battles until you can get all buffs/debuffs in one turn on your own): Navarre
End Game boss fights: Asahi
OK in all situations but nothing great: Isabeau
Decent for a couple boss fights: Hallelujiah
You wish the status attacks worked always: Nozomi
Why the fuck would you even bother with this piece of shit: Gaston

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Being retarded and being an autist aren't synonymous by the medical definitions.

Well let's look up the definitions shall we?

Retarded - less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.

Autistic - A serious developmental disorder that impairs the ability to communicate and interact.

Autism is merely a type of being retarded.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

D-don't say that. It'll pop up, someone has to have it, right?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Let's just settle this, how boneheaded is Nozomi?

5mileys
5mileys

No, it's DLC

Methshot
Methshot

End Game boss fights: Asahi

Emberfire
Emberfire

She's gonna get Nanashi's bone by the end of this Massacre route.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Ah, fuck it.
So I guess with all sidequests done and Twisted Tokyo done, I will go to YHVH's world and finish it.
What are the NG+ rewards, if any?

Inmate
Inmate

The only one getting a bone is Pascal!

Methshot
Methshot

I want to rub her head and call her a good girl.

TreeEater
TreeEater

She'd rather be Danu's cocksleeve than side with Nanashi in Massacre

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Does Dark have a Judgement Light equivalent? See: multi-target severe attack.

inb4 "die for me" is the only one

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You can fuse shit like that Cat Hallelujah has, Lucifer, Merkabah, some other shit

5mileys
5mileys

Mentally impaired.

A patrician I see.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Pretty sure it is desu senpai

farquit
farquit

Guaranteed smirk has made the difference in beating the fiends fast. An essentially full heal when I devote all moves for a different combo ain't bad either.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Inanna was never really on Nanashi's side. She cared about getting that power back and nothing else.

hairygrape
hairygrape

What was the easiest fiend for you? For me it was Mother Harlot or Trumpeter

Skullbone
Skullbone

Exactly.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Fuck. Can mephisto's shit be transferred?

JunkTop
JunkTop

I dunno. Usually unique moves can't be

Emberfire
Emberfire

The easiest was by far Matador.
Harlot could have been bad, but instead of Almighty attacks, she kept going for normal spells while I had Makarakarn.
Trumpeter was the only one I could not kill in 10 turns because of Silent prayer(since my full buff/debuf and concentrate combos went from 25k damage to 10 k). He had a tendency to kill partner when I used Tetrakarn/Makarakarn, so he was the second hardest.

The hardest one was David, really. Status effect not giving a fuck about smirk is pretty strong and I did not have a maxed out party yet(they got maxed out in the process of finishing Twisted Tokyo).

So: David/Trumpeter>_power gap_>Mother Harlot>Matador

SniperGod
SniperGod

Usually Demon Fusion Lite and a healthy dose of luck is the only way to transfer unique skills.

Supergrass
Supergrass

So how hard is this game in comparison to IV?
I beat King Frost and Asakusa Land and I really haven't had any problems yet, whereas Naraku was a pain in the ass the first time around

Evilember
Evilember

David really was hardest since I had no idea what the fuck his weakness was. After I found out it wouldnt have made any difference since I barely had Shock on any of my demons at the time

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Demons late in the game can be a pain. It gets challenging around the Marici-Inanna-Maitreya fight, then Krishna, and Azrael in Mikado.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Trying to figure out retarded fusion chains to make stupid demons
Kill me

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

why is the cleopatra quest so hard i just want my boner inducing demon

also post for compendium %, 65 here

also
literally nothing new in ng+

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Oh, does this game ACTUALLY have a compendium % this time around? Fucking SMT IV

happy_sad
happy_sad

I tried to fuse him to transfer Dark Pierce for Alice, but I literally couldn't fuse him with anything, it simply didn't give me any options

RavySnake
RavySnake

Anno Domini, the year of our lord, two thousand and sixteen
Atlus is still making me use MP for physical skills

This is objectively worse than using health, fuck you Atlus, you had it so perfect in Nocturne and now you refuse to accept it

Illusionz
Illusionz

She's not at fault since demons need lots of MAG to have physical form in the world.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Good old Odin shined through there for me.

I just adjusted compendium search parameters constantly like
New demons>that race>use compendium>sort by price

I never learned the actual fusion rules

Soft_member
Soft_member

Inanna dindu nuffin! She's a gud grill!

Emberburn
Emberburn

Yes it does

44% or something

idontknow
idontknow

How do I fuse Thor in Apocalypse?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I'm stuck on Cleo too.
Considering just grinding to an absurd level.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I have 103 ways to do it, give me a level range and a couple demons you have

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Post them stats

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Level 67, Kudlak, Quetzalcoatl, Feng Huang, and Nidhoggr

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Does level act as a defense stat in Apocalypse? I can't remember if it was that way in IV.

Seems like higher level stuff inherently takes less damage compared to lower level stuff from the same attacks and the same resists.

massdebater
massdebater

This is literally what I'm missing. I just need to know these things to be good now.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Thor is lv 80 Kishin.
Even with fusion boosted, you probably lack materials.
Easiest way is Marishiten+Gnome.

The other lowest combo level materials are Heimdal+Kartekiya

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/

Playboyize
Playboyize

I think it's purely stats, not level scaling like Devil Survivor

Firespawn
Firespawn

Yeah, I was reading through the last thread and saved that for usefulness. Still, not quite as good as knowing.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Did pumping a shit ton of incenses in IV make you tankier in IV?

Emberfire
Emberfire

I'm grinding for the DLC bosses now.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Is Dagda Nanashi's new dad?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Yes. Now answer the damn question Kid. What'd ya want for dinner?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

this final dungeon is fucking huge and i'm loving it but goddamn it's disappointing that i can't recruit shit here. is there a decent place to recruit 80~+ level demons? i wanna do more fusion but i've got fuckall macca

likme
likme

I wondered why I miss so many slots in the compendium and why I could not fuse demons like Hagen, even though I faced him.
There are fusion accident only demons again, right?
Goddammit.

iluvmen
iluvmen

What if Nanashi impregnates Asahi?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Nope, not in the main game.
You better start checking on Ginza and Dabai/Breakwater for relics

SniperGod
SniperGod

Try fusion lite, it can pass on Dark Pierce at least, but haven't had any luck with his unique skills.

SniperWish
SniperWish

44% here, about to go fuck with some jars or something.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I'm on the (presumably) first Maltreya fight right now. Am I supposed to lose? This bitch is absolutely savage and I'm barely holding my own right now. Just kinda scared to waste my Charka pots.

Playboyize
Playboyize

veekyforums.com/thread/155352082/video-games
tfw I updated my 3DS too much and can't have piracy fun
Feels bad man. I might just have to buy a new 2DS to get SMT4A and a bunch of other stuff for free.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

No, he's just got strangely high resistances

Supergrass
Supergrass

is the dlc out or is it just pirateable now?

Techpill
Techpill

Nope, you just need to take advantage of Gun/Fire weakness fast and pile up buffs(Navarre says hi).

Booteefool
Booteefool

I WILL SAVE YOU

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Some is out, but all of it is piratable.

Booteefool
Booteefool

fuse Makara for Tarunda
game goes full Donte and hands me an accident
results in Toubyo
Great, now how will I get it back without having to blow Macca?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

that arranged battle theme
So good.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Is it better to keep Magaon on Nanashi over a healing skill? Physical build by the way.

FastChef
FastChef

Well shit, at least there is a decent prize for doing all challenge quests to settle down ones autism. T-thanks, Dad...

Supergrass
Supergrass

YOUR FIGHT IS OVER. YOUR MESSIAH IS SAVED AND THE WORLD IS AT PEACE, THEN THIS MAN APPEARS TO YOU IN A DREAM TELLING YOU TO STOP BEING A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT AND KILL GOD ALREADY

WHAT DO YOU DO

Bidwell
Bidwell

horde appears
kill it
reinforcements
another horde

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

tfw when you'll never have a Celtic god as your second dad

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You get an all white version later on with similar stats, but you have to pay for it

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Is there a soft cap for stats? At which point should I stop putting points into magic? I mean if putting it to 999 keeps increasing my damage I'm good but if I'm spending 50 points on mag to get more 10dmg, heh.

FastChef
FastChef

Horde appears
Toki insta kill
horde appears
Toki insta kill
Horde appears and attacks first
Toki triggers sneak attack and insta kill

So in conclusion, Toki is my waifu

Evilember
Evilember

I can confirm that at 300 magic I do at least 2 times the damage every other demon I have does

eGremlin
eGremlin

took me a while, but I did it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Fight him.
Get completely bodied by a cripple.

Evilember
Evilember

Yeah, I'm at 250 now but I'm starting to think what to do now.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Fuck it, this one already looks rad as fuck to me. My pirated DLCs won't work for shit anyway.

askme
askme

Good lord, I barely managed to beat SMT4 twice. It's such a fucking boring-ass game. Gonna look around at used copies, maybe I can find one that has a 4 clear save and just leech up that save file. or maybe a friend with a pirate 3DS can get the game and a full save file.

4A is so much better.

hairygrape
hairygrape

While attaching my demon to the DDS card take them from my stock like in SMT IV?

Playboyize
Playboyize

burself and shiet
what the fuck is burself?

Took me a while.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

no

Skullbone
Skullbone

Nope.

Evilember
Evilember

My pirated DLCs won't work for shit anyway.
Install with FBI. They work fine that way. Tested on both RF and US version of the ROM, though not the Undub

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What is the most expensive demon you currently have in the compendium?

Inanna: Level 99, 50% discount at 105391 Macca

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Mine is also Inanna at 104287 Macca.
Probably her Raging X skills that cause her price to be so high.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Probably, yeah.
The next 2 are at 94 k(Harlot and Mitra Buddha).
Surprisingly, Odin is next at 85 k with Izanami, Mastema, Seraph, Maitreya and Demiure at 70-75 k range

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Alright time to play more Apocolypse today!
First combat
A pixie Zans my Heqet (Who was smirked) and blasts him away

HERE GOES DAT BOI

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I want Cleopatra to step on my dick

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Tried in previous thread. Not working, not from BigBlueMenu nor FBI. Game is installed via cia, maybe that's the reason, otherwise its because of undub.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Because I've seen that some people are having trouble getting the DLC to work and I recently got mine working, how I did it (With undub, on an EUR region 3DS with luma3DS):

github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/wiki/Options-and-usage

Scroll down to "Enable region/language emulation"
And follow the steps.

Afterwards, hold SELECT while booting to configure luma, then enable region emulation.

TreeEater
TreeEater

don't we all?

Evilember
Evilember

Is Dagda best dad?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Alluring Banter

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

playing my 3DS in public

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

it was so boring, I had to take months long breaks between playthroughs

massdebater
massdebater

Luma is some sort of CFW or something? Will it work with Gateway?

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'm going to start Soulless Army, Any tips on how to have fun? I've read that I should fuse a demon with Patra and Dia as soon as possible and keep it in the back of the party throughout the game other than that, any build tips? tips for what demons to fuse?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

not playing your 3DS on public transport while going to uni and during breaks

RumChicken
RumChicken

Raidou 1 is pretty easy, I used a Jack Frost with dia and heal boost and a str build Raidou and I was able to beat the game with no problems at all.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

on public transport
Makes me sick within minutes

during breaks
This I do. But I can feel people staring at me in shame. Even the girl in my geology class that I think wants the dick.

hairygrape
hairygrape

not killing gods inside a church while the chorus kids sing IRL

SniperWish
SniperWish

What's the chance of Zan blowing shit away, anyways? Only happens to me once in a blue moon, like the enemy has to be smirked and my demon has to be weak to it.

DeathDog
DeathDog

No
But there's really no reason to use Gateway Anymore.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

it's not shame, it's envy

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Probably undub. My copies I tested are .cias

Techpill
Techpill

But I can feel people staring at me in shame.
unless you're in high school they're not, user

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I'll also ad too this that SMTIVA's title id is
000400000019A200

And the region/language inside the text file should be "USA EN", even with the undub, as the undub is just the USA version with repackaged files.

iluvmen
iluvmen

What's with Lucy's arm tumor?

Inmate
Inmate

It just werks.

JunkTop
JunkTop

how many demons looks like dicks?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Did you play SMTIV?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Yeah but I don't remember what the deal with it was exactly..

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Three.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

People on college don't care about anything
love this meme go to a college party and you will find out how much this is bullshit

askme
askme

disappointing

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

All of them

Don't you remember Lucifer's second form?
Here's a hint, the tumor is like an egg.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

You forgot about vaginas and boobs tho.

takes2long
takes2long

college party

MPmaster
MPmaster

I'd fuck that

5mileys
5mileys

Maybe they only care about what you do because you have such a shit attitude?

FastChef
FastChef

college party
But user some of us commute and have jobs

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

What are the names of the different routes in SMTIV:A? I know it is Peace, Anarchy, ?, ??.

Also who sides with what side? Peace: Friendos, Anarchy: Dogda?, ?:?, ??:??

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I think joinin with Merkabah or Lucifer are the other 2 endings.

TreeEater
TreeEater

I need to avoid spoilers, but I can't leave.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Then why can't you load Final's DLC?

RumChicken
RumChicken

kill the faggot guarding the jar
Inanna shows up, make her fuck off too
then Maitreya boss fight
given literally no stops or reprieve

What the fuck, man. This fight isn't going to be like Odin where I can't win, right?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Nope, just put some energy drains on your demons, memorize the weaknesses, and hope for the best.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

No, but it's not easy either

Bidwell
Bidwell

playingfireembleminaclub.webm

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Time to break out the Breaths and Chakra Pots.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

college party
i've never been to a party where people say anything about someone sitting around playing a video game somewhere in between classes, the fuck kind of lame parties are you going to user

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

We get to see Tenkai again
Hell yeah.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

anons you will be surprised with the pettiness of people in a work place this idea you stop being judged after school is bullshit. I hate being a wage slave

Supergrass
Supergrass

veekyforums.com/thread/155352082/video-games
Getting that incensed about the balance of SMT is a bit misguided. These are not tight, perfect, hardcore Derp Souls RPGs.

Booteefool
Booteefool

How the fuck are you supposed to beat Cleopatra?
Once she starts spamming pierce element Ma-dyne spells my team just falls apart. Am I really supposed to just grind everyone to level 150+?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Past 100 your skill +1 apps stop working
that's dumb

cum2soon
cum2soon

Probably.

youtube.com/watch?v=wFKyDR8J43g&index=128&list=PLcGOHQoemFze08rtZs6VCbhIhXTtAFcjT

They're not 150 but they're at least 120-130 and still have some issues

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

But I can now! I just used NTR language plugin and it recognised DLCs properly. Thanks for clarifying the cause duder.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Fucking hell, I'm really going to have to grind 30 or more levels on all my demons to beat this bitch?

Removing the level cap was a mistake.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Let's kill something

Supergrass
Supergrass

But user, now they can make harder bosses

Just wait until you see Stephen, then you'll really be pissed

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

One of the DLCs says it adds a level to twisted tokyo and gave me an item to unlock said level.

Where the fuck do I go?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

btw no terminals available lol
fuck off Atlus

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

you could easily grind over 60 heavy grimoire in less than 30 minutes using the dlc

Booteefool
Booteefool

Bottom of twisted tokyo. It's on the right side of the map, looks like a giant black hole in the ground

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

str or mag build lads?

iluvmen
iluvmen

No problem, enjoy the free shit

WebTool
WebTool

Can anyone tell me what the Scroll of Guiding Puzzle mean?

Light Thrice, Shadow once. Light once.

I've been stuck for 20 minutes here.

DeathDog
DeathDog

twisted tokyo
where is twisted tokyo anyways? i'm in yhvh's universe and haven't found it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

So hey I can't seem to dig it up in the archives, anyone got a link to the user that got the other protags playable or anyone know their hex IDs?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Go the opposite direction of your shadow three time, then towards your shadow, then against the shadow.

Inmate
Inmate

I've never done a DEX build.

What skills should I be putting on Nanashi, just all the different gun ailment skills?

Flameblow
Flameblow

How do you unlock Chiro for fusion? I see him on the Black Market DLC, so I assume that you can fuse him

Booteefool
Booteefool

meme builds only like dex and luck

w8t4u
w8t4u

Is piracy still impossible without hardware mods on newest updated 3DS?

TechHater
TechHater

双葉→キモヲタ・2chやりすぎ死ね
Futaba - disgusting otaku, too much 2ch influence

杏→人に流されやすいクズ
Anne - easy whore to fuck

武見→甘ったれのカス
Tae - spoiled child

ひふみ→キモヲタ2
Hifumi 123 - disgusting otaku 2

春→アホ
Haru - stupid

占い師→俺が好きなので許す
Chihaya - i like so i can forgive her

真→処女厨キモイ
Makoto - disgusting virgin something?

What did they mean by this

King_Martha
King_Martha

Who is best partner?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Toki for random encounters, Navarre or Pascal for bosses.

Evilember
Evilember

They call me Dante the Godslayer. Got a nice ring to it, dontcha think?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Anyone? Further archive digging has proven useless.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Chihaya - i like so i can forgive her
waifu bias shows it's ugly head

Nips have no fucking taste

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

PASCAL
A
S
C
A
L

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I'm making the mother of all omelettes here Flynn!

takes2long
takes2long

Oh shit this is a thing? It should be possible with hex editing the saves like it is for skills, items, and demons. Though I only have a list for the first two

Presumably they'd be counted as Demons

SniperGod
SniperGod

I was told that one user in /smtg/ had figured it out, but yeah. The data for the DLC are all in the game itself. Gaijins are just buying an unlocker. It's really just a matter of figuring out what their hex ID is and replacing the ID of another demon in your stock with it.

The thing is I don't know their IDs.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Nanashi, you have to stop this. You're going to cause the Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse!

Are you fucking kidding me, Atlus USA?

takes2long
takes2long

talking to Charmed enemies automatically makes you their ally
Oh, boy, this will come in handy. As if Charm wasn't broken already. Any Charm bullets in this game?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I'll bug the person I got the skill hex and item hexs from. He said he got them from asking the nips so presumably we are very late to the party

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Are you shitting me? Fuck, I thought it stopped at Bind + Fundraise but apparently there's a ton of things I don't know.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Oh shit really?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

P5 has shit waifus
Final has cute dogo and a goth loli
What hapenned?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

trying to find a reliable guide for the neutral route in SMTIV

I really don't want to do the 'Select all top options, go one way in Ethics trial etc etc' method, but there's so much conflicting information about what causes alignment changes and by how much.

5mileys
5mileys

Does concentrate boost damage of light/dark skills?

Inmate
Inmate

It should considering they are Mag skills

idontknow
idontknow

Is there anything new in NG+, or is nothing stopping me from just making a save before the split and doing the different paths

Feels weird going through this only once compared to the four times I had to go through SMT4

hairygrape
hairygrape

Ye.

WebTool
WebTool

Cool. Also the lists you do have would be greatly appreciated.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Yep

TreeEater
TreeEater

Use this for the most part: gamefaqs.com/3ds/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/faqs/67505?page=8#section336

but take into account the stuff halfway down the page here: gamefaqs.com/boards/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/67087749?page=4

And you should be more or less spot on. Aim for -14 to -4 or 14 to 4 before the White choice to allow some leeway on things being a mess, and pick the option opposite to your alignment.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

HELP

Toki is all over my dick but I already love my doge.

How do I tell her we need to keep it partners only?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

can make king frost

still cannot make or find pyro jack anywhere

I must have missed something, anyone know if you can find pyro jack anywhere? Or at least a few demons that could fuse into him?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Thanks mon, you da best.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Are those raging skills very good?

Inmate
Inmate

New Demons Only
Include Compendium
Race Fairy

You're welcome.

Snarelure
Snarelure

where you start the yakuza devil children quest

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Ability to fuse Merk, Luci, that cat thing Hallelujah has. You get that gold statue thing for your DDS card for beating the game too.

They're basically google translated but you should be able to figure out what's what. I'm planning on changing these names into proper english at some point pastebin.com/eEx77acL skills and pastebin.com/f5APEEKA items "(first set of addresses is the hex placement, just ignore the "1". second is the quantity on the current hex digit)"

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

that new Medusa boss fight
Nanashi must have spent 90% of the battle bound
Fuck people that say Fusion Booster is useless, Alice and Cu Chulainn saved my ass on Apocalypse difficulty

Soft_member
Soft_member

Does anyone have a link/can share their IV save file with all routes cleared?

idontknow
idontknow

I meant he hasn't even appeared yet as a fusable demon.
That's a start, thanks!

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Thanks man.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

needing a guide
I did it blind in my first playthrough

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Probably angst. And happy pregnant sex.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

search
fairy race
look what makes fairies
get demons of higher level of the race fusion materials

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Cleo blasts away one of my demons
She can remove buffs
She can change weakness
She uses luster candy, and charm
How can Mephisto even compete?

5mileys
5mileys

Is Mephisto easier?
Cleo is having her way with Nanashi's asshole.

TreeEater
TreeEater

What demons learn Media early on in Apocalypse? I see a bunch of Diarama but no Media users.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Now that SMT is dead, what vidya series can I play to scratch the itch?

MPmaster
MPmaster

flynn dealt 1700 damage to Aniel

Lol. Even in 4 a normal phsyical attack don't hit half of that damage

Immersion ruined

Skullbone
Skullbone

I beat Mephisto in a couple minutes. Just hit him with Light spells and you're good.

Cleopatra sounds scary, but also good as hell to use when you get her

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Parvati comes with it
Also learns Chakra walk on her first level up

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Persona.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Give me a series that isn't also dead.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

final fantasy

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Mephisto is much easier, since he just CANNOT deal with buffs/debuffs. I've only seen him use debilitate, and that's very rarely. His dark attacks will pierce, but that doesn't mean shit if they do garbo damage

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Who needs healing spells when Pasacal the Imouto can do it for free, allowing Nanashi to focus on attacking?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Any way to get fast macca ENDGAME?
I´ve only been running from Kasumigaseki -> Bridge -> Twisted Tokyo for 80k in relics, but it gets real boring real fast

cum2soon
cum2soon

DLC

askme
askme

Toyosu Shelter

YOU IN HERE AGAIN, MATADOR?

Inmate
Inmate

relying on AI

Methshot
Methshot

Go to fuse Shax for Mephisto
FUSION ERROR
SLIME
reload

Emberburn
Emberburn

Yeah, some of the alignment things are completely arbitrary.

But follow the advice of and you'll be fine.

WebTool
WebTool

Slime
kek how insulting

RavySnake
RavySnake

Having reliable Media is important, expecting her not to

oops demon didn't listen basic attack for 12 damage lol

when you're on the verge of death is a bad idea.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Is Cu Chulainn a special fusion in Apocalypse, or just a normal Genma? Do I need to unlock him?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

SMT is now a Persona side series.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Norm

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Okay, you cannot fuse Mephisto normally, but you can fuse Mephisto with the Demon Fusion Lite, and Dark Pierce seems to be pretty easy to transfer.

SniperWish
SniperWish

C-can somebody write this?

Playboyize
Playboyize

What level is she? Still 25 like IV?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Early ish. You're close

Soft_member
Soft_member

you can get AP from dead bodies

Rude..

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

He is a normal fusion. Get Silky and Ishtar

takes2long
takes2long

he didn't correctly train his doggo

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Mana Aid
says your recover full MP after battle
does fucking nothing
What

eGremlin
eGremlin

How

She's quite dumb

Lunatick
Lunatick

So which build do I go for in Apocalypse?

I went pretty much full luck and dex in IV and had a fun time. Is that build still viable?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I am still doing the 3,1,1 dex build

Str might be good but what can you do if an enemy null psychical? You can't even bypass by using elemental gun

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Physical gets Almighty skills that scale off STR. Also, Phys Null/Reflect is very rare

King_Martha
King_Martha

Holy shit I'm trash. Krishna is bullying me so hard. I need more macca maybe to fuse stronger shit? Does light work on him? I know dark does.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Probably only for the demon that has it. I have Shiva with Victory Cry but it only seems to affect shiva

Bidwell
Bidwell

They aren't using it kid.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Nah I tested it again and apparently it's just a slightly increased Light Mana Aid
The description is wrong as it states you regain full MP

TechHater
TechHater

What should I do with the extra demons I have in stock? Is there a demon bank? Apocalypse is my first entry in the serie

Lunatick
Lunatick

Fusion fodder or support with healing and poison recovery skills/revive

5mileys
5mileys

Gary their usefulness. Fuse the ones that lose relevance

massdebater
massdebater

Sesha 2
Option wether Gaston should Lead or Support
Choose support, ain't gonna do him any favors
Attack does nothing
heals only 400, whatevs
Finish the fight
NOW Nanashi uses the Ame-no-habanero
after the battle, sell stuff on the shop
only now I realize I can actually equip the Ame-no-habanero as a sword

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Atlus USA's testers were just too good so they never ran into using Mana Aid.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Fuse constantly. Try to get one copy of every demon into your compendium, preferably fused ones because you can transfer better skills.

When in the search, check the box that says "Use the compendium". Now you have tons of fusion options, but they do cost macca.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Fuse fucking everything. Outside of maybe end/post-game level play, it doesn't matter. You can always recruit more.

Except apparently in the final dungeon.

That's fucking shit design.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Dagda literally tells you before the fight to make sure to equip it

idontknow
idontknow

You don't need to keep them

Just register if you like their skillset and fuse them away for free
You can let them carry over skills you want to gain level and keep fusing and whispering even though you don't use them. At one time in 4 like 20% of the demons in my compendium has the same skills because I keep passing the same 8 skills

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Once a demon has whispered to you, you should consider fusing it unless it's a strong workhorse for you.

There's no reason at all to keep demons beyond then. They'll level, sure, but that will screw you up on the fusion later when they're a level 40 weak demon and can only fuse into level 16 nerds because it's just a really big pussy instead of a actual high tier demon.

Either way, don't think too hard about it. You won't run into that problem. Fuse, keep skills you like, fuse some more, try to keep a good array of skills in the kitty.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

anyone else keep Alice permanently

likme
likme

Unless it's a demon that can evolve. I got basically the entire Divine line just fro starting off with an Archangel and going from there. Especially since they usually evolve into something a lot stronger than you are.

DeathDog
DeathDog

NG+ I think.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Best girl comin through, boys

girlDog
girlDog

No, she's not even cute. Pale ass blonde

Bidwell
Bidwell

I didn't even know you could equip it as a weapon. I thought it was one of those plot key items.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

but pale is best user

DeathDog
DeathDog

Use the yakuza fuckboi for his ailment resistance.

Methshot
Methshot

she's not even cute

DELETE THIS

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

He used charge and mortal jihad with smirk. You just didn't pay attention because you were fighting an archangel

Snarelure
Snarelure

Pale is okay with black hair but with blonde she just looks creepy

RavySnake
RavySnake

Bobo also hit as hard

How do you explain that

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What's a good strategy for King Frost?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yeah, I thought it might just be me but skills that say recover full after battle don't ever actually recover fully.

DeathDog
DeathDog

how am i suppose to find the Tokyo Cosmos quest for 4?

idontknow
idontknow

it's another teleporter door dungeon episode

Playboyize
Playboyize

Stayed on my team for a good part of the game

Very useful

viagrandad
viagrandad

I am. Once someone seems like they've lost a fifth of their total health he goes full jackass with enduring cheer essentially condemning my team to a lifetime of status fuckery

JunkTop
JunkTop

Get good

SniperGod
SniperGod

So flynn can't see navarre but nozomi and nanashi can

What gives?

Evilember
Evilember

Nozomi and nanashi have that connection to demons. The one I don't get so far is hallelujah

RavySnake
RavySnake

That escort quest was so shitty that Flynn has blocked Navarre's existence from his mind to cope.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Aniel is weak against monkeys

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I'm getting my shit kicked in with Krishna, fuck this stupid teleportation shit too, anyone got a fucking map I had to travel back to grind and dont feel like doing this again. Any tips on Krishna. what a ASSHOLE.
should I drop the difficulty down for when I want to grind, just it lower the retarded demon costs

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

go to the last thread
ctrl + F hoy
1 result
is hoyposting dead?

whereismyname
whereismyname

What escort quest?

King_Martha
King_Martha

as dead as walter

Methnerd
Methnerd

in 4 where you save Navarre and lead him to Fujiwara and Skins's bar.

Never

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

With a name like Hallelujah I'm just waiting for him to reveal he was a demon/god/whatever all along

JunkTop
JunkTop

I never did the Nozomi quest in SMT4. Is there anything I need to know?

Illusionz
Illusionz

We dogo post now

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Oh shit you too, fuck this shit nigga.
Also how far am I in the game if im up to Krishna.
please don't tell me theres more teleporter dungeons, this is not fun.

idontknow
idontknow

In IV there's an escort quest where you have to take Navarre to Tokyo because he wants to get the fuck out of Mikado. Navarre is not only useless in a fight, but the demons make it a point to prioritize him because they find him to be incredibly annoying.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I always do. She's surprisingly low level in this game, usually she's endgame or near it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Nothing

Its just some fetch quest and how she accidentally become the fairy queen

StonedTime
StonedTime

She gave up being human to become the fairy queen, thus, saving them.

Also how far am I in the game if im up to Krishna.
Where are you fighting Krishna?

viagrandad
viagrandad

The hoy will always live on in our hearts

Booteefool
Booteefool

New game, new meme

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

You get the the: DLC not recognised whatver thingy?
It's totally because of a discrepancy between you Roms language, your 3DS language and any changes an eventual undub has made.

Try making a folder named "Locales" in the Luma directory and adding a text file named : 0004000E0009C000.txt
with the words: USA EN
Hold select while booting the 3ds and enable region emulation in Luma, tadadaa!

viagrandad
viagrandad

Cosmic Egg
Teammates givig speeches about how weak they were alone and how they've changed
getting power ups for it

It honestly feels like I'm playing Persona right now

Inmate
Inmate

all this Navarre hate
when he was right all along
The demons know he's right too.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

the first fight with him, in the shitty teleport dungeon.
his stat buffs/debuffs are fucking annoying.
I grinded to level 58 and tired to get better demon but fuck getting demons in this game is fucking annoying. I dont remember it being this annoying in 4. Is it because the costs are fucking so high.
what was atlus thinking, also FUCK macca beam.
please I need a map and a tip.

askme
askme

How did Navarre die?

Lunatick
Lunatick

sorry not him but where can I get the dlc? do I just install it like a cia? I downloaded the free ones off the eshop but I guess that was the problem

cum2soon
cum2soon

Like pale girls
Like red eyes
Like world of STR
Hate anything to do with Gaians

What do?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Peeping on a girl bathing in a river, he fell in and his belt caught around his ankles and he drowned

Supergrass
Supergrass

the first fight with him
You have a long ways to go. If anything, start noticing the moon.
Now:
from the center go right and enter the first door down that corridor to the right, you'll be taken to the top left. from where you're dropped off, go back and enter that portal.
You're now on the bottom left. Going through the bottom door will lead you to Krishna.

This is all from memory. Sorry for mistakes.

Lunatick
Lunatick

She ditches them to come suck your cock.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Oh, as fair as fight goes, you should have a ton of Mudo stones. If one of your demons knows attack knowhow you'll be getting press turns for days. Hallelujah is your best bet, just praise to RNG.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Scout Gift Item and Scout Bonus Cash are so cool

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Anyone know where the spirit dagger spot in Ginza is? Trying to destroy this wall in 4th District Crosswalk.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Yes.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Maps are here

translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://gamers-high.com/megami4-final/&prev=search

cum2soon
cum2soon

Threatening aura is legit as well.

Isn't it in the most left section? Near the shops? Not sure to be honest.

Also, here
youtube.com/watch?v=tmWGBmFqhIU

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

man I was not expecting her sexy face when it came off.
games a lot better in the regards that it feels less fujo with more women and bros. plus it actually has a plot and characters, thats a thing. I hated 4 because it felt empty in characters and plot.
thank you ill try your shit out but is there really no guide for this game at all yet? thats fucking weird I was looking for one. Also one last question before I get this shitty dungeon over with. should I turn the difficulty down when grinding? do I get the same exp? also do the prices for the demons go down?
shit thank you.
Also this is my fav right now, I'm trying to keep her.

Methshot
Methshot

She was also possessed by a mommy spirit so that makes her 3 times more attractive than usual

yeah that site has a full guide. Also that demon is very cute,I used her for quite a while with gun skills

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Been going with magic so far to 35, you seem sadly starved for skill slots, thinking about switching to Physical.
However I really like the new Hama/Mudo spells, sooo pretty.
When does Physical get their fancy stuff, right now my demons got only stuff like Axel Claw: 1-3 medium attacks, seems really underwhelming compared to: Smirk -> Mamudo -> Reep

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

FUCKING WHY, ATLUS

MY FUCKING AUTISM

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

affinity

This is like the best addition

I hate how every demons in IV are just the same with different elemental resistance

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Divine Powers battle theme

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

In SMT4, all you really had for phys was shoot all, hit all, and low hit high crit.

That was all you needed. A dex build could throw out truly ridiculous damage with this sort of thing. Though crits, and thus smirks, were still stupidly rare even with the high crit chance attacks.

Magic was tight for skill slots even in vanilla 4 though.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Yeah it gives an actual reason to not throw the same skills on fucking EVERYTHING

FastChef
FastChef

When did Toki give her speech?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

There's a reason for that.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Space Marine is Demonee-Ho

Nojokur
Nojokur

What apps are worth getting? Is 16 the full amount of stocks you get? Also should I be focusing on lowering the demon prices? I'm at 10%.
Yeah she was one of the big demon from strange journey I think, I use grand tick or whatever its called.

I know im only up to the first Krishna fight but the story really does feel better in how it has more going on each part. Does everyone feel this? because I remember playing 4 and hated how out of nowhere your alone and there are no characters or story, It was pretty boring.

I love how daga is voiced by char aznable

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

should I turn the difficulty down when grinding? do I get the same exp? also do the prices for the demons go down?
You technically don't need to grind unless your doing it for money/items but compendium prices are lower in easier difficulties yes.
Asherah is top tier demonfu as well, I'm impressed user.

Same.
Spent more time covering the entire room than in the boss battle.

What triggered me was bobo dead. Bad flashbacks.

FastChef
FastChef

both smt and persona villain are voiced by char

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Where is it?
Can't find it. Do you mean its in Ginza or an area where demons are?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Can't find it.
Fuck it, I'll help you look. Just gotta fuse Kangiten before having all the challenge quests done and heading into egg now so yeah

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Leave through the entrance near the hunters bar in ginza. Turn left into Central Way B. It's and the end of the road bit to the left.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Before or after Maitreya

Illusionz
Illusionz

T H I C C

viagrandad
viagrandad

She loves you too user.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

the JUST haircut of Nanashi is triggering me.

Who thought it was a good idea? they even hide it in the cover.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Ah geez just discovered its in an area I never visited even after beating the Ginza area.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Happens to me all the time.

circle an entire area before picking an exit
go through 1 of them
shit happens
forget about the other 2

StonedTime
StonedTime

That's good

Emberburn
Emberburn

Nanashi is shit design desu senpai. I'd rather be DmC Dante

TechHater
TechHater

Wait they used char guy in persona 5 too? glad hes getting some work.
thank god for the 3ds getting hacked, the voices sounded even worse than normal.
well I hit a wall with where I am now I think I speed ran too much with the dragon (killing him the second time), funny how they just said "oh hes gonna come back another 5 times" but yeah thanks good to know the prices go down I might have to switch around because my demon are missing me patra its why I'm getting my ass fucked in the Krishna fight , do the shops have lower prices too because money is fucking retarded in this smt game, its like jews made it.

I think I was leveling my mc wrong though because I was spreading my stats where it seems people don't do that. I have about 100-120 in str/dex/mag. What skills should I be giving him?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I have about 100-120 in str/dex/mag
three different damage engines
RPGs where you assign your own stats are pretty gay as all they are are traps for people to make unoptimized builds.

With that build, whatever skills you feel like I guess lol

King_Martha
King_Martha

Jesus fucking Christ.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

its...beautiful

Inmate
Inmate

Final treat before shit happens
Who am I kidding /smtg/ doesn't have mods

do the shops have lower prices too
In nocturne I'm fairly sure they did but in this one I can't confirm, sorry.

I think I was leveling my mc wrong though because I was spreading my stats where it seems people don't do that.
pick either magic, dex or str and focus on it while ignoring the other two. add some points to agility and luck every now and then. Most people recommend 3,1,1 distribution. You should still be able to fix your build tho. Good luck again user.

people complained about eridanus

Nojokur
Nojokur

Final treat before shit happens
Much obliged.
I didn't even expect a single piece of artwork of this demon

askme
askme

dammit fatlus stop that

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

stop that
No, its glorious.

Methshot
Methshot

PUSSY

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Well I did that because I thought having options was good and I like to use everything but yeah I could be doing crazy damage in one area though. kinda fucked up im level 59 already and 30 hours in. If this is just the beginning it must be a long game.
since out fits cost so much I think I also fucked myself with this fight since I have a weak force power gear out fit.

What build is the most op for the mc? should I stick to mag for support or go full str?

DeathDog
DeathDog

I for one welcome dungeons back

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Now you're just saying that to make me feel bad. Here, have another one.
I'm also running out so I'll stop for now.

mag is good because it allows you to exploit press turns more easily but str eventually hits like a fucking truck. You're not necessarily at the beginning either, more like almost half way I'd say.
Gear isn't all that relevant except for the resistances and fashion. I liked having null dark and light in IV but since hama and mudo don't instakill unless with smirk now I guess it's not that good.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Dungeons are one thing. Massive bland winding gay teleport mazes are another.

Don't worry about it this isn't a hardcore series. Just pick one you like. Maybe feed AGI and LUC for a while until you decide.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What .. the fuck. I actually was reading someone was stuck on that map for 4 hours.
does not look fun and im complaining about this teleport dungeon. fucking autism atlus.

can you get to yhvh with both the neutral ends? I'm going for the bro happy end first. should I save when the choice comes? I guess I should look at what the choice is. I don't want to redo this whole game over.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

What are the chances of Fatlus turning my 3ds into a bomb because I'm using level +100 demons on my DDS card before the level cap unlock DLC is released?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Where could I get the dlc download? is it all the dlc?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Very high. Nintendo Ninjas are on their way to your neighborhood right now.

FastChef
FastChef

I'm using the undub but it doesn't have cut scene undub audio, is that the only one?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Yeah, the DLC CIA is everything, even the pre-order gear.

Don't fuck around, Nintendo doesn

Booteefool
Booteefool

could I get a link to that dlc please. will I have to do that thing people are talking about with luma or is that with the euro version.

likme
likme

Oh im also using the undub, forgot to mention that.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Nintendo doesn
Told ya.

Here's the final touch of the night.
Bring more macca next time.

Booteefool
Booteefool

plz stop fight

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Ok so im almost halfway and 30 hours in, so its about a 60-70 hour game?
If I use the dlc with the undub will it be with eng audio?

askme
askme

If you make all the challenge quests it might take you around that ye. I'm currently lvl 84 at 50 hours mark, reaching what I think might be the last big thing before the last dungeon.
From what I've read undub is in japanese with eng subs except for cutscenes that have eng audio. There hasn't been any breakthrough on how to add subtitles on the cutscenes from what I understood.

WebTool
WebTool

napaea's voice in japanese

wake me up

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

What does "Sick" status do?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

mega.nz/#!1wUhwZzC!Niru70NbFfv5AdAswxg9ZbLihFzybR7Q_V4aUTJ9wl8

nevermind found it but just to make sure the undub usa version will work with the dlc right. (also will it have the undub voices)
Oh so like 50-60 for the main game (im 30 and like you said half way there) and more so for the quests I didnt really do yet. well unless I get stuck.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

less damage (25% IIRC)
and no chance of evade

Evilember
Evilember

Also prevents you from smirking if I'm not mistaken.

Good luck!

RumChicken
RumChicken

NEXT TIME BRING MORE MONEY

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Her voice in Kasumigaseki shop will be even more retarded.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Did all challenege quests available to me thus far
Just got to the route split at level 82

girlDog
girlDog

I'm entering the cosmic egg. I've also spent a decent amount of time walking around the map trying to explain anons how to get to "x" or where to find "y" and I think that added up a bit perhaps.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

i am glad they didn't change him

the new bartender is stupid

girlDog
girlDog

It's possible to view the 3ds's video format on a computer, but I don't remember if it's possible to reencode them back into moflex after remuxing them.

TechHater
TechHater

"I am Adramelech, knight and servant of the demon lord Lucifer"

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

So for those of you who have hit the end game, what are the most easy mode demons you've fused?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

You don't sound so peacocky when you're in my team hitting Lucifer, faggot.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Nanashi

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Her seiyuu is a perfect fit for a character.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

""
Fresh in from Reddit or something?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

This is literally artificial difficulty.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

why was there no heroine in Nocturne?
is Dem-fiend a faggot?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Also certain skill will wreck every party member with Sick to 1 hp instantly.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

IV final dungeon is too short
Apocalypse final dungeon is too long

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Just got past the Cosmic Egg and I'm using Shiva, Samael, and everyone's friend Mastema. I ran through all the bosses in there with no trouble.

Why they thought it was a good idea to give you Fusion Booster X on a first playthrough, I have no idea.

likme
likme

Way too fucking long

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Yosuga. The drama CD has Isamu pointing out that had things continued before the conception, Demi-Fiend would've fucked Chiaki.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Women aren't metal enough to hang with demifiend

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

But user, IV Final and Apocalypse are the same game ;^)

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

How do you get Mastema?

Spamalot
Spamalot

How do I beat Satan?

What demons/skills did you find useful?

JunkTop
JunkTop

He's the level 93 special fusion

I honestly don't know if I had to do anything special for him to show up

Lunatick
Lunatick

I just got to the scene with merkabah and lucifer teaming up in apocalypse. And what the hell. This retcon is so bad it almost comes off like self satire. Except that its played straight for some reason. These aren't even the same characters. They went from dark grey versus dark grey to simply pure evil. Even lucifer now doesn't even mention freedom, but instead mentions wanting to subjugate all humans. He's not the same person who died talking about hopes and dreams in IV at all. And neither of them even tenuously seem to think they have to actually convince humans to side with them. This retcon also makes there be no reason johnathan and walter are with them. The charismatic seductive demons who made plausible reasons to get people leaning that way to agree with them are now replaced with borderline autists who look like they don't even know what "convince" means, and just bark orders to people who aren't even on their side (extra stupid that lucifer is also this now). And I haven't met a single human character yet who was on their side. Note that the gaians saying they were siding with yuriko who is now dead never say that they now work for lucifer. The first humans who directly imply alignment with any side in particular are the ones who say they serve maitreya. And merkabah mentioning but not showing the samurai.

Why is this even necessary for the plot? The reveal being that yhvh is an asshole who was behind everything isn't a reveal if not only demons, but even angels are pure evil who aren't even trying to disguise the fact that yhvh causes the apocalypse as an overreaction any time he needs to get rid of a godslayer, and neither angels nor demons give even the slightest shit about humans. And the divine powers outright tell you this no less.

The scenes of demons and angels teaming up are actually really cool. But they're hampered by the fact that the sides aren't even remotely depicted as potentially positive.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I WANT TO PLAY APOCALYPSE, EU WHEN?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Why aren't you playing it...?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Weebs with no taste but shitloads of money ruining things, more at eleven. Good thing Final actually bombed and wasn't accepted by crowds, so next proper megaten will be from Yamai.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Problem is they wasted YHVH coming back in a plot that doesn't even make sense. We aren't going to see him again in mainline for another two decades.

Illusionz
Illusionz

From whom he is made of?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Even lucifer now doesn't even mention freedom
Glad to know you're bitching about a game you haven't been playing.

Or are you just pretending to be retarded?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I've been stumped on Ginza in Apocalypse for an hour now because I can't figure out how to reach the Southeast Passage with the door busted.

Any directions?

whereismyname
whereismyname

The charismatic seductive demons who made plausible reasons to get people leaning that way to agree with them
I don't know which game you played but it was definitly not IV. Why would merkabah who wants to black hole Tokyo want to be friends with them? Lucifer being a hypocrite who never shut up about muh freedumbs but at the same time loving to bark rules at demons it's nothing new as well.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Implying somebody actually giving a fuck about main villain being a giant golden polygonal face instead of silver/white one.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Is it worth having the regular and high pleroma on the same demon in this game?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

So is it the best option to be nice to everyone throughout the game?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Say, is that DLC normal or undub? Because I'm playing with the english voices and would just be happy with the normal dlc

Techpill
Techpill

In IV the human forms both in their own forms and as johnathan / walter actually talk like plausibly reasonably people. Ones who can convince people to join them. Their IVA forms talk like they have autism. Obviously there wouldn't be many people in tokyo siding with the angels. But this narrative is making it look like there's no reason for anyone in mikado to either.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Murmur, Gemori, and Kazfiel

Illusionz
Illusionz

Cheeky cunt.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Huh. I never thought about the fact that bel being a rival to yhvh, the head in that scene was likely meant to parallel him.

Snarelure
Snarelure

You also have to understand that this is neutral path, on neutral people in Mikado were already starting to see the bullshit behind Merkabah when its desperation started to show, same with Lucy and even then in this game people join either side out of sheer desperation

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I LOVE ISIS

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

didn't change

They did actually. He said "bring more macca next time"

farquit
farquit

Its the persona for best girl afterall

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Tokyo 1 or Tokyo 2? What's the verdict bois? Maybe it's just my new headphones but Tokyo 2 doesn't have the same punch as 1.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I need some help against Sukuna Hikona. This nigger just 1 shotted my party.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

because it's not out yet?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Buffs, zio, Asahi, mermaid.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Babel only has a man face on some routes. It might even be exclusive to each route but it's been a while.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

It's been playable to anyone with a 3DS for days.

5mileys
5mileys

"Starting to" implies that they looked at least semi plausible to begin with. The demons in IVA don't at all. They're outright rude and demeaning to every human character they come in contact with. And merkabah outright admits that yhvh is an asshole as if he didn't realize this would matter to anyone. They didn't just become pure evil. They became stupid - evil. Like they no longer even try to have a veneer of plausibility. There's no actual reason for them to act this dickish in IVA other than for the narrative to let you know that you are now meant to see them as definitively bad.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Tokyo 1 ezpz.

Unrelated, fuck tsukiji post Krishna. I'm so lost and that map isn't helping. Nothing makes sense anymore!

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I bet you're building MAG, loser

DeathDog
DeathDog

I like to think that Lucifer is slightly more reasonable than Merkabah in Apocalypse, if only because Merk had to be the bigger retard and end truce for the law ending.

FastChef
FastChef

Help

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

go be a pirate somewhere else

farquit
farquit

I want to say this is copypasta just because you hilariously missed every single point of the plot.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Isn't that shit the exact same from its IV days? I swear I started sweating bullets when the prospect of infiltrating Mikado came up, I really didn't want to go trough that dungeon on the way up, shit was annoying as fuck in IV

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Go be a cuck somewhere else.

Or, for my entertainment, answer.

What's wrong with having pirated it? Explain, I'd love to hear.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I can't remember. But once you beat Krishna some of the Telenor terse dissappear and I don't recall that in vanilla IV. Now I'm lost as fuck dealing with angel hordes

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I'm barely into the game. So if it changes later I wouldn't know how. What points do you mean?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Nigger, Merkabah and Lucifer dropped any and all pretenses because for the first time they aren't doing the song and dance they know, they actually panicked because a third force appeared that is actually above them in power level terms, they either throw their humans until one of them lucks out and kills the gods or they get fucked before they can even blink

askme
askme

Dumbass, they were always definitely bad. One of them wanted to nuke a city, the other wanted to burn down the world with anarchy. As for Merkabah outright admitting YHVH is an asshole, guess what, not only is that true, it's something he believes because even Satan knows YHVH goes too far with his shit.

Merkabah and Lucifer in IV were always pawns set up to keep Law vs Chaos going. They don't give a shit because they don't have to give a shit. Humans, angels, and demons never fucking caught on in the entire history of them doing this, why would they suddenly act like they care now? To them this is just Law vs Chaos War #124891251251 where nobody wins but YHVH because he stays in control.

The whole damn war is a farce until the Divine Powers step in and every if you really look at IV it's basically all three routes of you accomplishing nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Chaos: YHVH wins, because Chaos won.
Neutral: YHVH wins, because he's still around and you don't even know he exists.
Law: YHVH wins, because Law won.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Me too haha.

Do you mind repeating that phrase?
If possible with a timestamp and using your home's wifi.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

people have worked on the game, and you are playing it without giving them anything.
pirating isn't the same as stealing, but it's still wrong.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Fucking everything you talked about, jesus fuck, did you try to pass judgemnt on the plot and how the characters are acting without actually know fucking anything? You brain damaged jackass

DeathDog
DeathDog

Nevermind I somehow missed the door into Harumi Way A a billion times.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

pirating the game to play it early creates a magical forcefield that LITERALLY prevents you from buying the game on release or EVER

So you're retarded and a cuck? Seems like a bad combination.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Pretty much everything that said. Merkabah and Lucifer don't care about the war before the Divine Powers step in because the war doesn't actually matter. If either of their side wins, they win as a whole because they accomplished their mission in serving YHVH.

Then the Divine Powers step in, a very real threat to their actual goal of keeping everyone at odds with each other and suddenly they're freaking the fuck out. They don't know how to deal with it, so they start throwing their resources into the war and hoping the humans will just kill the Divine Powers and then everything will go back to the status quo of chaos vs order.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Because I'm talking about the point up until where I am, as stated in the post? And that's an accurate recounting up to this point? Sure, it might change somewhat later. But its pretty obvious that here the sides are meant to simply be presented as outright bad rather than as the standard dark grey that one can plausibly see as good even if you're not meant to. I highly doubt anything that happens later paints them in a better light.

Spamalot
Spamalot

The challenge quest where you have to gather 2 types of meat 10 times is awful.

5mileys
5mileys

When the Power calls Pascal a clown after seeing she's wearing makeup

Inmate
Inmate

I didn't have too much of a problem with it since most of the time it drops 2 of a kind and you can and will end up lost in that god forsaken dungeon with its magical doors of fuck you

Methshot
Methshot

No fucking bully

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You might actually try to read what every post that quoted your idiotic comments have to say, because clearly you don't give a fuck about the plot and being spoiled.

Here is a hint, every single war on each game until this point was a fucking lie perpetrated by Lucy and whoever is playing head honcho on law side.

Neutral, Law and Chaos are in the end the exact same shit

girlDog
girlDog

why does a 15 year old dog need makeup

TreeEater
TreeEater

Figures, the one group who challenges the status quo and I can't side with them. I like Dagda too, but at times he comes off as complacent.

Firespawn
Firespawn

To attract mates or as a disguise

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

15 is old for a dog isn't it?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

nuking Tokyo
full of unclean ones who feed childrens brains to demons
home to an opened hellmouth from which demons are spewing, nearly killing all humanity
somehow bad

Also
Lucifer
wants to unleash demons on Tokyo to make world of STR
this wouldn't actually change Tokyo's state at all except now they're in Mikado too
lol.

Merkabah and Lucifer in IV were always pawns set up to keep Law vs Chaos going.
Okay real talk this is an actual retcon.

5mileys
5mileys

Do NPCs make comments if Nanashi is in the maid outfit?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You can't side with them because they're just as bad as YHVH, just spread out amongst different gods all being fucking dickheads. Humans might as well not being living beings to them, just existences that stick around to observe them and make sure they don't fade out of existence.

Hilariously enough it winds up being that Satan is the most reasonable fucking one of the bunch, because he recognizes it's time for a change.

FastChef
FastChef

Are you always this retarded?

Im going to give you the benefit of doubt and think this was an exception because its a videogame.

Judging the story to this level of something you haven't yet finished.
Am I on /v/?

whereismyname
whereismyname

What does that have to do with anything I said? If they're more desperate now, they would have reasons to try better to get humans to want to side with them. Not act more autistic than usual, and like they don't even know how to plausibly pretend to be something humans might want to side with anymore, while also letting slip that yhvh routinely nukes the world if so much as a single person who puts him at risk is born into it. Their personality shift in these scenes isn't meant to be them freaking out, even if that's also happening. Its simply inconsistent character writing designed to let you know that they are bad characters in as anvilicious a way as possible. And its clearly not about the divine powers, since the narrative is clear to paint the angels and demons as irrevocably more asshole than usual long before the divine powers show up.

None of that has to do with my post, which is why it doesn't count as a conclusive response. Everyone knows that that's the point of IVA's plot. It doesn't explain any of the things I'm complaining about however, because "it was a ruse" doesn't explain why the characters and sides are written openly inconsistently between the two games. Also it doesn't apply to other game's universes, but you slipped that in there as if it did.

cum2soon
cum2soon

DELETE THIS

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

why can't we side with YHVH

RavySnake
RavySnake

To be cute, duh

Booteefool
Booteefool

YOU TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY PUPPER?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Are you shitposting at this point? Because you haven't said anything relevant to the point yet, but keep insisting that pointing out that the war is mostly a ruse is something relevant to the point.

King_Martha
King_Martha

If they're more desperate now, they would have reasons to try better to get humans to want to side with them.

Literally why the fuck would they when the humans are almost all riding Flynn's dick? Do you actually talk to the NPCs? Why the hell would they side with angels and demons, possibly giving up their freedom, when they can side with their human "Messiah"?

Holy shit, shut the fuck up and play the video game.

hairygrape
hairygrape

To be fair, whining about the story is silly. SMT isn't really about the story.

Emberfire
Emberfire

You're trying to present as a "point" the thing I'm complaining about. Yeah. The shitty writing made a thing happen. The issue is that that thing is stupid and not really consistent with the previous game. And "a lot of tokyo sided with flynn" doesn't make the characters any less of having totally different personalities than in the previous game.

Evilember
Evilember

Pascal gives me the urge to play SMT1 again even though I know I shouldn't.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Holy fuck you are actually the dumbest person I have spoken to in a long time. Please don't post in the next thread.

TechHater
TechHater

I'm starting to get the impression that Atlus loves Satan way too much.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

how the FUCK do i get to miyashita park?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Im not even them, you retard. But its amazing how you complain about shit you clearly don't know.

you are not even complaining a little bit. You talk about it as if you finished the game and read all the glossary. What's wrong with you?.

I agree. it makes him look more autistic to me since there are even multiple endings and shit.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Well if you're working out daddy issues, then of course the cool bad boy is the hero and the guy who sets the rules is comically evil.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Why is it Nanashi can crossdress?

WebTool
WebTool

I want to fuse that dog.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I dunno, I like the idea of the creation YHVH made to judge all life deciding to judge Him and find Him guilty.

That said they shouldn't do it again for a while. II and IVA were good times, give it a few mainline titles in between games before putting a spotlight on Satan again.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

because youre Dagda's Godslayer

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

You can, actually. Side with Lucifer or Merkabah in IVA. It's the same shit as siding with YHVH, just in a more roundabout way. Also you get a Game Over for it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

We should go back to reasons/philosophies for awhile. That was fun.

Bidwell
Bidwell

i've been wandering around in Shibuya for at least two hours just grinding now while i look fruitlessly for how to get to the fucking second Shesah fight. Every guide for SMT IV says there's a ladder in Shibuya Underground B, but there's nothing there at all and I'm just so angry at this game's fucking shitty (albeit improved) map.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Reasons were literally the worst

Evilember
Evilember

Please no.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Don't know what? The point here is that your or their posts make no sense. And you're still missing the point, while insisting its something it wasn't. I didn't say anything about end game content. I'm pointing out that up to this point, the narrative obviously is not being consistent with the characterization of IV. Nothing that comes after this can reverse the fact that the beginning of the game set this up in a way to already have this different tone, rather than plausibly continuing from IVs. The beginning content being disjointed from the end of IV isn't something that later plot reveals can explain away, since its obvious that its simply there for the sake of the plot going a different direction rather than a real facet of consistency.

Yes, its not complicated to get that the divine powers showing up makes them drop whatever act they were doing slightly. But that doesn't change that the plot was set up in a way to make the tone much different even before then, and that part of how they are acting past then reflects the game simply wanting to beat something into you more than a coherent consistency with the characters.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

He's where you fought Omoikane in 4. From the underground head upstairs. If its the correct exit you'll see a healing spring to the left follow that to the end

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

But satan hasn't been a main character in years, whereas lucifer is in almost every game, including side ones. If they really loved satan this much, he wouldn't have been more or less nonexistant for over a decade of games.

Lunatick
Lunatick

WHAT DEMONS WILL GIVE ME HEAVY/SEVERE GUN ATTACKS

RumChicken
RumChicken

What are you talking about, he showed up in the DeSu 2 anime!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Well too bad, because I already contacted Atlus and they agreed with me.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yeah. Working for yamato. Which was more of an insult than a positive depiction. Note that both persona 4s anime and desu 2s had the main character use lucifer during one of the main endgame fights.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Hold on /smtg/

are you telling me.

That Satan and Lucifer aren't the same character?

Catechism lied to me. I knew it

DeathDog
DeathDog

user it was a joke because the DeSu 2 anime was shit.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Technically the massacre ending more or less is a reason ending. Its just ambiguous what the reason is, since its up to you. and you get to rule the world rather than just live in it.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Satan is YHVH's bitchboy who goes around doing all the punishing for him, in line with the Hebrew version of Satan

Surprisingly, significant religious texts in weird old languages have two or three different interpretations that maybe change one or two little details like that

w8t4u
w8t4u

So how exactly does Demi-fiend get along with the rest of the protagonist crew?

Do Hero and Aleph just try not to look at him or his weird neckhorn?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

So how exactly does Demi-fiend get along with the rest of the protagonist crew?
He doesn't

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Why would people who routinely interact with demons be too awkward to talk to someone who looks mostly human but a little different?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Alright where the hell do I find Kabuso? I figured he'd be in Kichishiro since he's level 6 but I'm not sure.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I dunno.Do they react to Nanashi's markings?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Kichishiro

Alright I wasn't even close, Kinshicho*

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I guess you're right, but I mean, does Lucifer drop him off through a hell portal with a bagged lunch in front of everybody?
Are they aware he's gone full demon, considering neutral is canon for all the other games?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Isn't the flynn in that mission a law flynn though? Or ex law? Or was he white? I forget. Either way, I can only assume the takeaway is that whatever happened previously the lesson everyone learned is that you should become neutral and all be friends.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

the lesson everyone learned is that you should become neutral and all be friends

Demi-fiend goes home to hell after a long day of time travel shenanigans and introspection

hey uhhhh, louie
on second thought I think I'm gonna call off this whole true demon thing
yeah maybe I'll go hit up Musubi or somethin man
don't make this a big deal dude c'mon

hairygrape
hairygrape

Lucifer kills him again

MPmaster
MPmaster

my magic build feels shitty

did i fuck up?

farquit
farquit

TDE is a little suspect anyways. Even if you're not strong enough to be their new leader, why is the only other option death? What if you were only the fourth strongest demon alive. What does he gain by killing you anyways? You'd still be a useful asset.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

no the game is just harder

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

There's a reason MAG rhymes with FAG

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Lucy probably just went overboard and killed him by accident.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

How the fuck do you beat YHVH?

His second form basically just had me spending every turn dumping everything into staying alive.

Any useful demons or skills for this fight?

Inmate
Inmate

See, this is why chaos is always losing.

Playboyize
Playboyize

There's a reason DEX rhymes with dick

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Musubi is truly the Reason of Heroes. Those who wish to liberate humanity from the horrors of having to actually work a boring job or deal with annoying normal people who talk too much and never get to the point.

Emberfire
Emberfire

NEET detected.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

so i missed out on all the free dlc when will it cost 99.99

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Toki calls you master.

cum2soon
cum2soon

was YHVH's name also bleeped out in the nip version?

Snarelure
Snarelure

tfw your dog didn't call you master

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It's intentionally distorted, but yes.

Illusionz
Illusionz

hey guys is this a thing we doin now?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

caring about toki instead of best girl.

Yes.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I don't know man. I'm starting to like her more after the whole jar incident.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

retarded mutt
best girl
Now THAT is desperation.

eGremlin
eGremlin

At least she's smart enough to not legitimately buy into gaianism. In fact, the only thing retarded about her is that like you she fell for odin's le ruse. But you have to apply this to yourself as well.

JunkTop
JunkTop

name my SMT 1 characters
Hero, Law, Chaos and Heroine
Law's girlfriend is Heroine.
I feel cucked. also the demons are assholes, none of them want to join me.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

But you have to apply this to yourself as well.
No, I literally don't, because I knew it was a ruse the moment an old man showed up claiming he had glory for us. And then further wondered how anyone could be stupid enough to fall for his bullshit as he briefed them.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Hallelujah...you're a demon?

Who could have fucking guessed

RumChicken
RumChicken

Red Rider's Blade of Terror sound effect and animation are amazing
It only deals medium damage

fug

FastChef
FastChef

"you" the character. The game doesn't let you doubt his plan til you get there. Hell, he doesn't even force you. You literally go by your own power.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

A non-genre savvy 15 year old probably would have been fooled easily

Lunatick
Lunatick

You were seriously that dumb at 15?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Would they though? 15 year olds are young, but they're not retarded.

A better question is why the angels and demons in the well were all retarded. This seal unbinds if a human so much as touches it. So they leave literally a tiny handful of low level rube demons there, and no one else. And they're so bad at their job that if they see a human walking around they let them stay. Children don't hang around demon infested well bottoms on accident.

massdebater
massdebater

Does Asahi ever learn fucking Diarama or Mediarama, because plain old media isn't gonna cut it anymore.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Well applying myself to the situation, as someone essentially immortal, with a Messiah hanging around and in the dire need of recognition I'd go with
I know you're playing me, demon, but this sounds like something interesting.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

say no
get fried

Playboyize
Playboyize

I think you're missing the "non-genre savvy" portion. If you've never played a video game, or read a novel would you really realize you're getting tricked when a literal god asks you to do something? Especially when you were 15? Think of how bad you decision making skills were back then and I feel that it's reasonable,

The game does kind of force you to do dumb things but this time I think they did it right

eGremlin
eGremlin

can't find any fuckers with media
demon teaches me fang breaker and damascus claw
have 100 luck
What's the point of normal attacks when you have up to 3 chances to crit for potentially more damage?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

would you really realize you're getting tricked when a literal god asks you to do something

They live in a world where supernatural things are assumed to be enemies nine times out of ten. Asahi even SAYS its a demon when he first reveals himself. These people don't trust gods the way you'd expect someone in 1875 japan to. And every people in every time period understands that some supernatural things might be bad. I don't think these particular japanese inherently think odin is trustworthy.

takes2long
takes2long

If you've never played a video game, or read a novel would you really realize you're getting tricked when a literal god asks you to do something?
Yes, especially when he tells me to awaken an all powerful ancient evil and acts like I'll somehow be able to control it, especially when he then adds "You're the only one who can do it" with no explanation.

Being 15 and illiterate is not an excuse, that's literally retarded.

Bidwell
Bidwell

its free

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Conveniently, you ask no one whether its a good idea either.

Soft_member
Soft_member

It's a nice change from the usual gaian trash who do nothing but complain and whine about any and all forms of authority while being utterly worthless.

askme
askme

Also while thinking anarchy and monarchism are the same thing. Because why not.

anarcho-monarchism.com/

anything that has a shitty obscure website with two members is real.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I'm confused. I know people typically don't actually know what anarchy is, but most people can at least recognize the "without leaders" definition, how the fuck do you make that a monarchy?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

mfw saved hardest Kishin fight for last
mfw most of my demons are weak against ice or wind

Sure do wish I knew I would be facing 3 boss battles in a row..all three of which exploit weaknesses of the strongest demons I have...

Soft_member
Soft_member

ALL the dlc for apocalypse got leaked

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Cry more you fucking casual.

massdebater
massdebater

rely on dogo for healing the whole game so far
she quits the party after boss is kill
shiiiiet is there any good heal slut to help me collect the weed

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

not fusing a demon with heal

What?

Illusionz
Illusionz

I really want to see a rip of the game's script so I could ctrl+f "Flynn" and see how many times his name gets said.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Why doesn't YHWH care about the White? Don't they fuck his shit up?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

expecting Iv and IVA's plots to be consistent

wew lad.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

IV F is far better written than IV, even though Pascal has brain problems.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Does anyone know whether smt 1 has any problems emulating on psp?

Inmate
Inmate

Filling my party with nothing but cute girl demons
Fear my powers of dumb fusion tricks

idontknow
idontknow

It's amazing how many demons joined up just by telling them humans are hopeless.

hairygrape
hairygrape

No wonder all the SMT games so far are standalone..

Booteefool
Booteefool

Not even Doping will help with those...

Flameblow
Flameblow

Are there really no HP based cute girl demons?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

You don't need HP if you kill everything before it kills you.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

It was nice to have characters with actual motivation this round.

Hell, even Dagda got actual motivation.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Man anybody still got this webm? Used to crack me up, but I can never find it anymore.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Law Ending: Side with Merkabah at the Yamano Reactor. Friends and Flynn don't fight with you anymore.
Chaos Ending: Side with Luicifer at the Yamano Reactor. Friends and Flynn don't fight with you anymore.
Neutral Bonds: Side with your friends, happy ending,Flynn is your friend now.
Neutral Massacre: Side with Dagda, murder your friends, revive one of them to be your puppet, Flynn becomes your mindless godslayer.

farquit
farquit

I had to use that map for that shit. I spent a good hour in the first brane thinking I was done before that shit said "Second brane."

Spent probably a total of 30 minutes after using the guide before I reached Satan.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Where the FUCK do I go to deliver Futotama

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

How far do the law and chaos routes even go though?

Inmate
Inmate

Flynn killed them in IV didn't he? And it was Gabriel or Lucifer who guided him in Law and Chaos

askme
askme

Other thread said he doesn't care about them. He just wants to come back to life so he can give Lucy that beatdown.

JunkTop
JunkTop

I find it hard to take seriously steven's neutrality when he sides with a hero who is not just a chaos hero, but a deep chaos hero.

5mileys
5mileys

Using incense on anyone other than the main character

That's like using tabs on anyone who isn't Crono!

Methshot
Methshot

Recruit her
Wake up the next day
She was watching you sleep
About to tell you she loves you when Pascal interrupts

Pascal needs to be an outside dog.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

She does
At like level fucking 60 or 70
Meanwhile every other god damn demon in the game has been using Mediarahan for the past 10 hours.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

one boss fight

TreeEater
TreeEater

Does this mean that pascal is going to get jealous if I drop loads in flynn sometimes?

cum2soon
cum2soon

mfw playing with Dagda

Emberfire
Emberfire

What happens? I don't get how that stops Shesha or the Powers.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Issachar's ghost gives you a fishing hook for Flynn
;-;

girlDog
girlDog

Well, for merkabah its because you drop tokyo into a black hole. It probably kills them

Not sure for chaos.

Emberfire
Emberfire

feeling bad for a casualry

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

me neither. thats why I had to type it.

maybe /feg/ has it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

entire tokyo dome needs one thin pillar to support
it's not even in the middle

happy_sad
happy_sad

open app store for the first time
I can't handle this again.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What's the difference of using the Kaifuku to the Messiahs Church to heal?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

oh and the Gaia temple too. just found it now

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Asahi is smarter than all of the SMT4 protagonists!

girlDog
girlDog

If you use messiah you get a small amount of law points. If you use gaia you get a small amount of chaos points.

For kaifuku its not clear. Some people say in the snes game it does nothing, and in the iphone game it'll give you law points if chaos and chaos if law. Either way its the neutral one. But that doesn't matter, since at the end of the game if you are neutral you get a choice of endings either way. So if you want to be law or chaos limit yourself to the neutral and law / or chaos healers.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Why does her face look so wierd when she's worried. She looks like she hasn't slept in two days.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Thanks! im playing the Snes version
I haven't decide if I want to be Law or Chaos or Neutral yet.

its my first SMT game.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It's the face of disgust

Bidwell
Bidwell

she needs food

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I want to eat sweets
Toki is too cute

RavySnake
RavySnake

The correct answer is law.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

/smtg/ is alive and kicking now because of Apocalypse's release. There's no point in constantly Hoying. A real Hoyman only Hoys when it's needed.

hairygrape
hairygrape

dumb hoyposters

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Ahh nevermind, turns out the girl from the dream is just named the same as my neighbor which happens to be the Law's girlfriend.

ill think about it. so far both the law and chaos heroes have been pretty chill.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Yes, son of man. Trust the angels and the great YHVH. Law is the way to go.

Inmate
Inmate

this game shits on IV but god damn if the dialogue choices aren't somehow worse and the cap on skill slots is agony

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

its another wander around the opening section randomly of lucifers palace episode

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Got immediate bad vibes at this part
Tried to leave
Dagda "Oh no you don't. One way or another, you're TOUCHING that stone!"
Dagda takes over your body and touches it

Why is Dagda so rough with Nanashi's body...

likme
likme

Beelzebub offers me Severe Thunder
Really want it but don't have any space and don't wanna remove any other useful skills
decline
immediately get enough app points to add one more skill slot

Supergrass
Supergrass

I wish Dagda was rough on MY body....

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

building DEX was a fucking mistake

RavySnake
RavySnake

MEDUSA USING THE OLD BOSS THEME WAS HYPE AS FUCK

farquit
farquit

Any build is a mistake.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns


You could always try BALANCED!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

It seems I ran into a glitch on the first game.
while trying to save the Heroine from her execution, the zombie cops and soldiers keep respawning.

I read they don't respawn if you take them out quickly. so I might have to try that tomorrow.

It seems the antique shop is also glitched, since I should be able to buy guns from it, yet it doesn't have them for sale, I guess i could take the gun and ammo of the Law Hero since im focusing on MAG and INT for him.

So much for my first SMT experience. Nevertheless Im having fun.

Also, what happened to Pascal? the dog just jumped into a terminal and banished. Is it going to show up again?

TechHater
TechHater

did you try to fuse Pascal before he jumps in?

If you did, he would turn into an extremely powerful Cerebus, before jumping into the terminal.

He's gonna show up later, make sure you have an item call the Golden Apple when you do. Use it on him.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Odin regain his memories
attempts to indirectly take over the Fairy Forest
dresses as an old man to trick Nanashi and Asahi into resurrecting Krishna
Why are his motives so complex? I love it

eGremlin
eGremlin

not going WORLD OF STR

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Nope, I didn't fuse him.

He just jumped in and now its gone.
Is he going to appear anyway.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Yeah, he'll show up either way. Just make sure you find the Golden Apple when you do to get him back in your party

TreeEater
TreeEater

So... is this goddess feather in the final dungeon or out in tokyo?

idontknow
idontknow

Thanks! ill look forward to meeting him again then.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Just beat Massacre, and remembered something.

Dagda gives you a Destiny Stone for Massacre, but I don't remember ever using it. Even for story reasons. Did it ever do anything?

Emberfire
Emberfire

3 fights on a row
Dog bless world of dexterity or else I would't defeat matsuko deluxe

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

nozomi has 10/10 design
is dumb as hell

What the fuck happened

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Sorry for bringing out a SJ question among IV:A posts, but is it true that you have to grind a lot to defeat the final boss in neutral/law route?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

QUEEN OF THE FAIRIES

I love how nobody gives a shit about that title but her

Emberfire
Emberfire

Dont blame her, she spend too much time with a certain retard.

hairygrape
hairygrape

matsuko deluxe
that gaki no tsukai ref. Mah nigga.

Emberburn
Emberburn

What do you think having sex with Samyaza is like?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

bag of sands

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Where does Pascal come from?
Is it a spoiler for later game?

Emberfire
Emberfire

It's the voice that makes her sound retarded

Emberburn
Emberburn

Flynn actually says Genesis and Revelations by name

Has Flynn actually read the bible? Is it required reading in Mikado or something?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Pascal is a dog

Techpill
Techpill

do not bully the cute! orz

JunkTop
JunkTop

Asahi gives you a list of names to choose for her new Hunter name, one of them is Pascal. When you pick it she says it sounds like a dog's name.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Oh nevermind you get it as part of the story.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I don't wanna fuse away my qt3.14 demons, but I need stronger demons

halp

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Demons are tools. Humans are also tools. Angels are puppets.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

user something you need to realize, Demons are expendable in SMT. Never get attached to a QT demon. Think with your skills, not with your dick.

Just overwrite them in the compedium, then if you ever want them later you can buy em.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is a STR or DEX build better, or are they roughly the same?

askme
askme

I am sorry but he whole Lucifer retcon is a huge motherfucking lore dump and pig disgusting
it doesn't matter if Law wins because I was serving YHVH in the end ;)
How could they simply ignore all the other games

likme
likme

So was Lucifer always Satan or just Hikaru?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Prime suit is an Amazon outfit
I'm honestly surprised. Surely nobody will wear it.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Luicifer being Satan is a retcon, they added to rationalize why he looks and acts different.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

they added to rationalize why he looks and acts different.
So it's just supposed to be IV Lucifer, not a big series retcon?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Pretty much. Same applies to IV's Archangels.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I'd wager The One Holy Book would be the one book demanded in one-and-half Millenium Kingdom angels did.

Flameblow
Flameblow

BABY DUCK ENEMA

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

HEE HOO I FUCK YOUR DEMON

Inmate
Inmate

Shesha!Flynn made me jump guys

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Why so NEUTRAL?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Is STR the way to go this time?

SniperGod
SniperGod

How do I fuse for Kangiten and Futotama

eGremlin
eGremlin

Kangiten: Ganesha Parvati Airavata
Futotama: Nue Mishaguji Tsuchigumo

If that Deliver Futotama thing is bothering you you actually have to find him and kill him and deliver the thing he drops instead. He's south of Ichigaya i think

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

falling for le continuity meme

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

This man understands.

He's a tough one. What level are you at? You'll need good demons, hence the "grinding". Beat him on early 90's here.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Do this
Oh sweet I had enable region/language emulation all along
boot up smtiva
gets stuck at the "NINTENDO 3DS" logo intro thingy forever

I know it's not your fault but god damn it 3ds why does nothing ever work first try.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Jesus Christ. Was there some secret trick to defeat that memester Quetza-whatever in Kinshicho? He was stupidly overpowered. The bastard could one shot almost all my demons with one zandyne.

I defeated him with some luck, but even with rakukaja and tarunda +4 he could kill any of my demons (and Nanashi) in two zandynes

Nojokur
Nojokur

Also when the fuck can I get a demon with mediarama?

Booteefool
Booteefool

everything opens fine
except for SMTIVA

Die for me.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Update FBI/Luma/Freeshop/whatever else you're using.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Well. Now I feel dumb. Thanks user, I'll look into it.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I can't promise anything, but when I was having my stuff hand on the 3ds logo updating everything worked for me.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

WHICH IS MORE FUN STR OR MAG

iluvmen
iluvmen

just about to do repel shesha 3

any certain demons i should fuse? im pretty bad at smt and never know what to fuse

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Anyone can help me?
I´ve got al9h and Luma is updated
When I start SMT4:A it only says Add on couldnt be recognized

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

All Sheshas can be solo'd, you really need only healer/buffer and upgraded excalibur.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

upgraded excalibur

First I've heard of this. How do I upgrade this? I'm also lvl 49, am I underlevelled?

inb4 >grinding in smt

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Now it doesn't hang at the 3ds logo but I couldn't load the dlc anyway. Oh well. Thanks anyway user.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Orochi quest to upgrade

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

50k macca fundraise
not even a typo this time

wew lad.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I don't remember exactly, but propably on 53+ lvl you'll get a quest from Napaea to bring Orochi to some scary duder who is Take-Mikazuchi and who is gonna reincarnate Ame-no-habakiri which is apparently his father by breaking it against Orochi tail or some shit.

Methshot
Methshot

Could it be because I'm using region free perhaps?

StonedTime
StonedTime

guys what do I build in smt 1

JunkTop
JunkTop

Thanks.

How far along am I? Am I close to choosing a route?

cum2soon
cum2soon

I hate people like you.
Tips and tricks:
Hero should focus on VIT/STR with at least 10 INT and some SPD, for Law Hero focus on MAG/SPD,
for Chaos Hero focus on STR/VIT, and for Heroine focus on MAG/SPD/VIT.

idontknow
idontknow

How do I get to shinjuku in final?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Fuck no.

Illusionz
Illusionz

:(

i'm assuming stm is stamina which is vit

King_Martha
King_Martha

Holy shit, how do you fuse Belial in Final? I fused nearly every Tyrant I think and I still can't get him to appear

Skullbone
Skullbone

What? Are you sure you're playing SMT I?

Lvl70 special fusion w/ Dominion, Orias, Inferno.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

How could they simply ignore all the other games
They don't though, Lucifer was always a cuck

viagrandad
viagrandad

Dominion, Orias, Inferno
Fucking hell, the three demons I did no fuse

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Did you forget that he was a worked for law in SMT2 I think?

massdebater
massdebater

can you filter by demon level in final?

not being able to triggers me

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Level range. I.e.: 10-19; 20-29 and etc.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Just filter by race nigger.

MPmaster
MPmaster

originally wanted to spend the night playing SMTIVA
decided I shouldn't spend all my time at home and instead went out with my roommate to a bar
ended up shitting my brains out and puking blood at 6am over a shot of Jack and three beers
I'm never going outside again. My demons wouldn't do this to me.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

ended up shitting my brains out and puking blood at 6am over a shot of Jack and three beers
You puked blood just by drinking that or was that what triggered your puking after a long night of drinks?
You sound like me.

Methshot
Methshot

Is there a point of no return? I just got past the cutscene where Asahi dies so I think I'd be close to that point.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I haven't finished it yet but seems logical that the choice would happen in the next dungeon as in the cosmic egg. Dagda will make you choose after beating Krishna probably.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Ice Battle Plans: Raises a demon's positive ice affinity by 1. Target: 1 ally. Limit: 99
Interesting, where can I get more?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Haven't played SJ. Why is Mastema such a popular angel among SMT community?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

He's a trustworthy angel. Why wouldn't he be popular?

Snarelure
Snarelure

happy merchant parallels.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Is it me, or is the game much more difficult now that debuffs cost more MP? Hinoka is kicking my ass on War with Makajam and those debuffs

Snarelure
Snarelure

This place is scratching my SJ itch. I'm glad I picked up the demonica before coming here.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

So I think I'm playing this game right so far?

how in the hell do you fuse/get Fortuna?

w8t4u
w8t4u

The fiends sound so bored

JunkTop
JunkTop

aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Spending an inordinate time at a wasteland populated by nothing but braindead demons does that to you

Emberfire
Emberfire

Nice

Love that image. It's truly the only way to play these games

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Will he ever make a comeback?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Guide for Godslayer Training: Items

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I don't think the reason bosses will ever return. Shame, cause Ahriman's design was legit great

Supergrass
Supergrass

Beymax? Did you get skinnier?

Skullbone
Skullbone

where do you get Demonica?

SniperGod
SniperGod

use bufula stone to get press turns. use taunt and attack mirror. keep using bufula stones till you run out. use dekaja stone after attack mirror turn to reset his attack. endure for 4 turns and win.

likme
likme

ginza black card shop. Very late into the game (Past Merkebah and Lucifer)

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Ginza shop. Black card. High lvl after Camp Ichigaya.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I installed the DLC cia and it works, but now loading takes a few seconds longer than usual (going between areas on the map, opening menu)

any fix for this? (on a 2DS)

farquit
farquit

I know you guys are enjoying Apocalypse/final, but help with SMT1?
Any specific demons/level for Heroine's mind? Just want to deal with mobs more easily and not wipe after getting to boss.
That place gives me a migraine with its appearance.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I'm on a o3DS and felt that even before installing the DLC. Sometimes when I press buttons too fast it takes a shitton to load.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

It got way slower though. Borderline freeze

Lunatick
Lunatick

Not him but you got one for Godslayer Training: Max Force?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

demons with affinities their stats don't work with
Yes, Garuda having negative gun affinity when his dex is his highest stat (though only by a little) makes sense.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Also how deep is fusion there? No inheritance?

happy_sad
happy_sad

SAMEY

Evilember
Evilember

Then just don't use that shitter

hairygrape
hairygrape

I'm just fusing everything to fill up the compendium and noticing it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

It's the one I'm missing too user. However, I'm fairly sure you'll have to switch up the demons with those in your stock. If I do get it eventually I'll post here.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Delay when activating menu
Delay when crossing bridges
Nervous laughter

hairygrape
hairygrape

See

Skullbone
Skullbone

just started playing smt4 apocalypse
getting wrekt by every early game battle
angel whips my ass into shape with her lmao 70 heals a turn and 70 dmg hamas
Man, War is no joke. And I looked it up and War is the game with NO modifiers compared to the others. This game is a lot like SJ difficulty wise.

I'm also 3 hours into it and only lvl 11 because lmao fusion and grinding.
If I wasn't a work cuck I'd play this all day.

And I have tabletop to do today too. Fuck.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I unironically love his design. Funnily enough, he's more popular with chaosfags.

Inmate
Inmate

it got slower even on a n3ds

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

having a job and playing apocalypse on war difficulty? you won't finish the game this year.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Welp, he destroyed god's avatar and time itself, so there's no going back.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Is there even a point to skills like Salvation or Antichthon over just using Mediarahan or Great Logos and keeping Amrita and Debilitate on the side since you have to be in Smirk to get their bonus effects now?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

horde reinforcements appear
4 times in a row

;__; what the fuck

Soft_member
Soft_member

It's useful for saving slots, I guess.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Would you do lewd things to your demons if you became a summoner?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

This is your answer

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Use alluring water and you'll get 7 easily.
tfw +200000exp

Playboyize
Playboyize

I'll have you know if I wasn't overloaded with games I'd probably finish it in a month or so. I'm a SMT veteran and dungeon crawler fag.

I have finished a ton of recently released games in a row:
Monster Hunter Generations
ZE3
Phoenix Wright
And now friggin SMT Apocalypse.

My hope is I can beat it before Sun/Moon comes out or at least come really close.

That being said, this game looks like it'll whip me into shape.

likme
likme

Well, considering there's an NPC in the game named "Lewd Hunter," I think that's something that crosses most people's minds

eGremlin
eGremlin

Of course. In fact, I would try to recruit/fuse a nekomata as soon as possible just for lewd purposes

Inmate
Inmate

Somebody else make a new thread I'm on my phone at school

Firespawn
Firespawn

I would let Leanan sidhe for "artisitc inspiration"

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Well, at HEEast you interacted with a member of the Jack family. HO!

Methshot
Methshot

will do if no one else is already doing it
will also add aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/ if it's not there already

Booteefool
Booteefool

PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA

happy_sad
happy_sad

There's no ability to search for demons with healing, or support affinities

Emberfire
Emberfire

Use skill name

likme
likme

will also add aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/ if it's not there already
Nice.

Go ahead and bake the new bread.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

does having smirk while talking to enemies do anything?

Skullbone
Skullbone

veekyforums.com/thread/155464812/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/155464812/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/155464812/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/155464812/video-games

New bread

StonedTime
StonedTime

bread
breadmind?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Get Alice on 34, Nebiros on 31
15 Nanashi levels later
still have Alice, dem status immunities and Die For Me and Energy Drain
still have Nebiros for that Null Phys
Goddamn level 50-60 only has trash demons
I'll only finally fuse Nebiros now, going for either Giri or Berskerker since Null/Repel Phys is just too valuable not to have
Thinking I'll go Berserker since he doesn't have as shitty MP as Giri

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Nah, there was just a lot of blood coming out from my mouth. I haven't even gone wild in weeks and I've cut down drinking a lot, but I'd like to be able to have some once in a while without my body betraying me. Also working both my jobs today so I only have time to shitpost too.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

horde appears
defeat horde
reinforcements appear
defeat reinforcements
reinforcements appear
defeat reinforcements
reinforcements appear

I didn't realize I was playing SMT I.