What society had the strangest (by modern standards) beauty standards and ideals for women?

Most likely heavy Asian influence. Muscovy was a North Asian country for all intents and purposes and I don't mean it as an insult, just as a fact.

>But European part of Russia
Europe has meme borders, Ural mountains became a widely acceptable one only in 18th century. Greeks used Tanais/Don river, for example. Volga was also a common division line.

Yeah but like, why did Asians do it aye.

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La vénus hottentote !
But I don't know if she was considered beautiful in her country

>12 inch dick required just to penetrate the strat

You realize men have these exact same standards for women, right? People like attractive people.

dat booty tho

What does this have to do with the OP?

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the one on the rights objectively hotter because her tits look more like buttocks and her lips like a cunt

God damn left is so flat

Is her butt just as flat?

Early medieval Japanese women shaved their eyebrows and blackened their teeth.

I'd fuck both t.bh

Left is cute. Cute! CUTE!

Medieval European women's hair style is also bizarre.

T H I C C as fuq

People are naturally biased toward attractive people? Stop the presses.

talk to liberals

the problem is people trying to dress this up in pure ideology

for example feminists scolding betas for asking them for coffee and claiming it is a great injustice while letting a random chads grind on her and slap her ass at the club

if you weren't a pedophile you would be freaked out by her childish face

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who could be attracted to this? wtf

when you live in an environment where starvation is a constant threat, fat people seem far more attractive than they do in an environment where food is abundant

How comes Bouguereau is so common on this board? He's barely ever talked about elsewhere, just like all other academicists.
Not that I mind, I like his work.

That's about fertility and abundance, not about physical attractiveness you dunce.

Romans

No facial/body hair, good on fitness and love for facial aesthetics. Only problem is lack of tits

that was a pregnancy aid. The only reason people assumed it was porn is because old-timey archeologists couldn't even conceive of it being made for or by women.

It's kind of cool.

None. Women can make any shape, style or form work.
Even masculinity looks better on women.

Proof that ancient Greeks were black! Fucking whites trying to claim everything for yourself

I think it's more of a Turkic monobrow, brought to the Iranic areas by the Turkic rulers, such as the Qajar. But yeah, it's weird as fuck.

The treatment of Bouguereau is perhaps the greatest example of "subversion" of culture or whatever you want to call it.

The piece is a bit preachy but on point artrenewal.org/articles/Philosophy/TheReal19thCentury/thereal19thcentury.php

>In 1900 at the Universal Exposition in Paris, it is reported that Degas and Monet were approached by a newspaper reporter who asked who, in their opinion, would most likely be considered the greatest 19th century French artist in the year 2000. After a brief debate, both agreed on one man - William Bouguereau.

tl;dr Bouguereau is the "anti-degenerate" artist by excellence. All his life he painted people being genuine or Jesus. His work is purely 100% esthetic and you would have a hard time making a "social commentary" out of them.

men do care more for intellectual beauty than for physical beauty

>why
Pure dark matte black things were (and in the natural world still are) rare and thus considered beautiful. It also helped prevent tooth decay. But really, just because 'fashion'. Why do wear pants and not tunics?

>obvious pedo
>anti-degenerate

That's not so much a 'beauty standard', because it's not artificial. That's how they genetically are. Big butts are a fat/water store for lean times, which for primitive desert inhabiting nomads is pretty convenient.

>obvious podo
FTFY.

is there anyone who has done better feet than him? can't think of any

He's popular across this site
Everyone likes Bouguereau, they just don't like admitting it in front of the cool kids. On Veeky Forums there aren't any cool kids

>fertile women
>degenerate
He painted some children, but the idealized ultra-nubile 16 yo girls he painted are the definition of generacy.

The man sure liked his lolis.

>Everyone likes Bouguereau
I could honestly believe this literally.

You don't say.

>they just don't like admitting it in front of the cool kids
This sentence sums up half the problems of the modern art world. The other half being art dealers.

Like humps on a camel!

I mean the Europeans used corsets which caused internal organ damage. What China did wasn't particularly bad by history's standards

Because lolis

Boug's faces are really masterpieces of expressivity.

the highest of tests

chads are direct in their desires and confident. betas do it with some sniveling 'master plan' of wearing a girl down so she pity fucks them

he's gonna be raping muslim children or something so it all works out

nah lad, this shit be fucking bland and lifeless

Doesnt seem to exist outside Tajikistan and bits of Iran tho, AFAIK.

Ohaguro is a custom of dyeing one's teeth black.

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Yeah, user.

You know they fuqed

they did that to stop sudanese slavers from stealing women for sex slavery so while its a female rite of passage to make it be known she is no longer a child its recognized a being a deterrent.

It dates back from Heian times, doesn't it?

Right one only if he's above 187cm

>if you paint children you're a pedo

nice projection, pedo

>How comes Bouguereau is so common on this board?

Is he? I'm the only one who posts him. I post him in every art thread I see.

I never saw anyone else posting him.

>Bouguereau is the "anti-degenerate" artist

Wow, you're naive. I hope you don't actually believe that. And if you do, please go back to your shithole:

Isn't it also a marker of how many cattle a woman owns in other tribes? Bigger disc, bigger herd.

China with their foot binding.

Bouguereau is a genius when it comes to faces. It's uncanny how well he can imbue them with very subtle emotions.

From chitchatting little girls.

I'd let them gather my nuts

To the young women unaware of her attractiveness.

You are not the only one, I post him as well.

i thought that was gold earings in Mali

To the outright seductress.

He has many more paintings, I think he painted every facet of the female personality. It's beautiful.

Most people only know about muh teeth blackening so here's a full analysis of Heian standards:

"What constituted good taste? That which was beautiful constituted good taste. Heian aristocrats made a cult out of beauty. Of course, what a Heian aristocrat might consider beautiful, someone in different cultural circumstances might consider ugly. In terms of personal appearance, for example, Heian aristocrats regarded white teeth as ugly, particularly for women. "They look just like peeled caterpillars" wrote one critic of a woman who refused to blacken her teeth. To blacken their teeth Heian women applied a sticky black dye to their teeth so that their mouths resembled a dark, toothless oval when open. This particular custom of blackening the teeth (haguro) persisted until the 1870s among certain elite groups of Japanese women.

There were many other aspects of a beautiful personal appearance. Both men and women prized a rounded, plump figure. The face in particular would ideally have been round and puffy. Small eyes were ideal for both sexes, as was powdery white skin. Aristocrats with dark complexions, both men and women, frequently had to apply makeup to appear more pale. Even most capital military officers, many of whom were civilian aristocrats with no military training at all, would not have dared appear in public on formal occasions without makeup.

The majority of Japanese at the time must have appeared quite the opposite of the aristocrats. Peasants and laborers engaged in demanding physical work out of doors. Food was often scarce. These conditions tended to produce lean physiques and dark skin. It seems that in nearly all human societies, beauty and wealth go hand-in-hand. In the Heian period, the plump, pale courtier was obviously someone of privilege, wealth, and leisure. Such a person had the time and resources to attend to her or his appearance."

"There were still other standards of personal beauty in Heian times. For women, nature unfortunately put eyebrows in the wrong place. To correct this problem, women plucked out their eyebrows and painted them back on, usually quite thick, an inch or so above their original location, thereby beautifying the face. Also, extremely long hair--longer than one's own body--was de rigueur for an attractive Heian woman. Washing such hair was an all-day affair requiring the assistance of numerous attendants. Again, notice the connection with wealth and leisure.

Standards of male beauty were, in many ways, quite similar to those for female beauty. Although men were not required to shave or pluck their eyebrows, idealized depictions of handsome men show the eyebrows high on the forehead. Men would ideally have a thin mustache and/or a thin tuft of beard at the chin. Large quantities of facial hair, however, detracted substantially from one's attractiveness. Looking at art of the Heian period, or even art of later periods depicting scenes of Heian courtly life, it is sometimes difficult to tell men from women from the face alone. The merging of male and female features is particularly apparent in depictions of children and people in their teenage years.

Heian aristocrats regarded the nude body as disgustingly ugly. People of taste always adorned themselves with multiple layers of clothing. This clothing was inseparable from the body itself. It provided all manner of possibilities both to enhance the taste and beauty of one's appearance and to detract from it. "

original bouguereau poster here.

sup

"First, clothing had to conform to a person's rank. Other key considerations included social situations (inside one's house, visiting a temple, participating in a court ceremony, etc.), prevailing weather, and the current season. Women commonly wore five or six layers of robes, the most crucial part of was the sleeves. Each sleeve would be of a slightly different length and color, resulting in multicolored bands of fabric at the ends of the arms. The arrangement of these colors was terribly important for conveying a sense of refinement and good taste. Just one color being a little too pale or a little too bright could easily become a point of criticism.

One's choice of clothing, particularly the combination of colors was a statement about one's artistic sensibilities. Wearing clothes was a kind of performance art for the Heian nobility, as was many other aspects of their lives. Appearing in colors that blatantly clashed or were inappropriate for the season could ruin a person's reputation.

There was much more to the rule of taste and the cult of beauty than one's physical appearance. All aspects of behavior were opportunities for the display of taste or the lack thereof. Walking, talking, eating, playing music--and, of course, all aristocrats *played music*--and more were all opportunities for artistic display. Most important of all was a person's handwriting. Careers were made and lost over the quality of one's writing. Love affairs began and ended similarly. As Morris points out regarding the importance of handwriting, "A fine hand was probably the most important single mark of a 'good' person, and it came close to being regarded as a moral virtue."

>not posting Chiang Mai beauties

what painter painted this? looks a lot like bouguereau's style

See I wonder about attractive women then get sickened by fat or ugly bitches, idgaf if you like what I like if your uggo as shit

Chad has what's called confidence you autistic faggot

Here's another one (can't find better resolution sorry). You'd have to be blind on both eyes to call Bouguereau an "anti-degeneracy" painter.

Edmund Blair Leighton and John William Waterhouse are "anti-degeneracy" painters, but compared to Bouguereau they are unremarkable.

Michaelangelo and Leonardo were homosexuals. Judging "degeneracy" is a hallmark of stupidity.

>Judging "degeneracy" is a hallmark of stupidity.
This.
I'll change my mind on this one when i meet someone using the term who isn't a bland thug.
Decadence appeals only to asssholes tho.

>How comes Bouguereau is so common on this board?
I'd say feet. He seemed to paint substantially more feet and with substantially more of the foot visible than practically any other artist.

Teethless smile and high eyebrows still show in a lot of their drawn moeblobs.

>Bouguereau
>anti-degeneracy

This is a literal BDSM session right here.

Solomon Joseph Solomon

No, the guy was definitely a foot fetishists. I just went through a ton of his pictures and most of them either feet in a prominent position or in focus or were showing soles, both extremely rare in other painters and paintings in general.

>How comes Bouguereau is so common on this board?
>I'd say feet.

Nah. Bouguereau's devil from Dante and Virgil in Hell was always a meme on Veeky Forums, I remember it from back in 2010 on /b/.

I read a theory that they were basically made by women as self-portraits, since they look like the self-conception of a woman looking down at her own body in time before phone cameras and mirrors.

reminds me of the Bene Gesserit nuns from Dune

bruh

Is this the 19th century version of the THICC comic?