Can we talk about how 10/10 the 717 Siege of Constantinople was?
>Muslim armies make camp >immediately attacked by Bulgars >Maslama tries to scale the Theodosian Walls >defenders just pick his men off >Maslama tries to attack the sea walls >fleet gets burned alive by Greek fire >negotiates with Leo >Leo convinces him to burn his supplies to prove that he's about to take the city >Leo then doesn't let Maslama in >worse winter in anyone's lifetime >Muslim armies starve >Romans sit in comfy in Constantinople >Maslama forced to get reinforcements from Christians >Romans attack them >most of his reinforcements run away or defect to the Romans >Muslims forced to go home >sail back >volcano erupts and sets flaming hail upon the retreating Muslims >plague breaks out in Cilicia and devastates remaining land forces
Carson Brooks
>romans >speak greek, don't have a republican government, aren't Roman Catholic, don't live in Rome, couldn't hold Rome
Ryder Bennett
lets talk about how the islam experiment started at saracen and ended at mongol
Lincoln Flores
>romans >not greeks
Other than that, yeah, it was 10/10
Austin Barnes
Is Leo the Isaurian the greatest ruse man of all time?
Adrian Jones
>byzantines >christian The greeks worshiped at the altars of excess and greed. They were no more Christian than the Mohamedeans.
Jack Powell
>don't have a republican government, aren't Roman Catholic, don't live in Rome, couldn't hold Rome Geez kinda like the late Western "Roman" Empire
Brody Jackson
why don't you talk about how 10/10 the 1453 siege of Constantinople was christcuck?
Kevin Stewart
>Leo convinces him to burn his supplies to prove that he's about to take the city The absolute madman
Eli Hill
It was too one sided, depressing and generally less memetastic
Nolan Powell
>Leo convinces him to burn his supplies to prove that he's about to take the city
Kayden Peterson
>Less memetastic It has a giant cannon and a mad sultan ordering his fleet overland.
I'm from the Philippines and even cunts here have heard of that in World history high school classes since its the stock of high school professors looking to show the OMG COOL things in history.
Adrian Rodriguez
>Leo convinces him to burn his supplies to prove that he's about to take the city H-HOW?
Bentley Jones
Exactly.
Most Romans were Germanic by then also.
Angel Ross
Priests are imaginative writers
Leo Baker
>Leo convinces him to burn his supplies to prove that he's about to take the city
Luke Rivera
>pretend that your defences are on the brink of collapse >arabs ge wayt too confident >arabs want to completely demoralise you and make you surrender >the geniuses burn their own supplies as if they don't even need them anymore This is the only explanation I can think of
Camden Harris
>Romans Excuse me?
Samuel Lewis
It was the muslim writers who said that
Carter Gutierrez
>Turkey's greatest achievment is conquering a city that was already left devastated by the Fourth Crusade and the recent civil war Fucking laughable. Even so, the most impressive thing about the Fall of Constantinople isn't from the Turkish side but Constantine IX's last stand and how a quarter of the Turkish force was killed during the siege.
Andrew Morales
>roman catholic funniest part of your post
Caleb Cooper
>roman catholic
Xavier Baker
Hail fellow byzaboo. Personally, as an italian, I admire Giovanni Longo's role in the defence particuarly. A personal friend to emperor Kostantinos, spontaneously decided to arm his own batallion of men and come to die at his friend's side. Tasked with supreme command over the defence, managed to succesfully hold the walls for weeks; and only perished as a consequence of a stray arrow in the final attack. If only he could have stayed and die heroically fighting side by side with Kostantinos...
Jason Bell
lol yes 1453 was also 10/10
Adrian Cook
I wouldn't say it was 10/10 especially considering how far gone the byzzies already were. That said I'd give it a solid 8/10 >walking your ships over land to get past the chain the byzantines used to shut the harbour >using massive guns to scare the shit out of the defenders >end of the defense brought about because some dumb fuck forgot to close one of the gates and the turks entered and raised their flag above it, making the defenders panic
Elijah Moore
Greek here, giovanni will always be in our hearts.
Your pope though needs to suck ten dicks.
Nathan Lopez
>italian >my pope ISHYGDDT Also Kostantinos sent a desperate plea for help to the pope, promising to mend the schism if he had agree to partake in the upcoming war; and the Pope did issue some bland sort of intervention alliance, but when it came to actually send trops to Costantinople, pretty much all of christianity did a retro-front and let it to die.
Joshua Thompson
>Oh yeah? >Burn your supplies, if your army's so great.