ITT Convince me to buy a four-banger Toyota instead of wasting money on German crap.
One mature owner, 120k miles, 535i V8. Looks to be in decent condition. From what I know about the E39:
>Had problems with Nikasil cylinder plating, although it should be fixed by now? (1999 model V8) >Relatively good on gas if driven sensibly. Parts / servicing will cost a bit extra (BMW) but the car itself is known for being reliable, no major issues? (eg. E46 subframe issues) that can cost more than the car is sometimes worth
Also, will be my second car, and first BMW. So just general E39 / late 90s-early 2000's BMW ownership stories / problems thread I guess.
Xavier Sanchez
Toyota has a dipstick
Dominic Barnes
I would pick up an LCI 540i if your budget allows it. They're fairly rare but if they don't get much worse mileage than the 535i and you're still putting premium in (or atleast you should you cheap fuck). So any car other than a corolla is gonna be worse for you money. But you buy BMW because you enjoy driving and if thats worth the extra cost then by all means
I don't know of an e39 535i - is that a euro only thing? Here the only V8 we got is a 4.4L. The V8s have a specific issue with a timing chain guide that wears out, I would make sure it's been done already or do it immediately after purchase. Other than that, the only major issue is the same flaw with all BMWs, namely the plastic components of the water pump and radiator. A full cooling system overhaul is advised if it hasn't been done. Also general age related components that fail around that mileage >control arms >window regulators >door lock actuators >MAF >fuel pump And the auto trannies are garbage, don't even think about buying one in anything other than manual.
Connor Foster
Are you going to post the picture of the corolla getting lapped by the 3 series again?
Jack Bennett
Some of us enjoy driving our cars instead of jerking off over how it only costs us ten percent of our autism bux to keep it running. Unless you have another vehicle with similar power, driving dynamics, interior quality, and looks.
Noah Mitchell
>he thinks it was being lapped
Sebastian Bennett
Hell yeah! Corolla!
Luis Rogers
>power No. >driving dynamics No. >interior quality lel no >looks no
Cameron Gomez
>jalopnik stay there dumb redditor
Jaxon Miller
Same as a bmw m8 :) >implying that makes it less true
James Roberts
>compares the reliability of a BMW M car to a Toyota Corolla This always makes me kek, this article is the epitome of clickbait.
Connor Roberts
How does 130 == 300 exactly?
Dylan Carter
>Same as a bmw m8 Nah, better. Corolla interior holds up better
Connor Morris
>poorfag shilling his corolla shitboxes in a BMW thread
Levi Fisher
>$10,000 30 year old car They cost more than a mid 2000s bmw poorfag
Christian Hill
Right. If I were home I'd go take a picture of the interior of my 98 Camry my parents bought me. Actual, non cherrypicked picture of my E39's interior.
Easton Flores
Not my fault you treat the camry like shit. Bmws fall apart without any help though
James Nguyen
not pictured: pristine, tight headliner immaculate carpets the rear seats are perfect The driver's seat has a few imperfections, I don't think the previous owner cleaned the leather every month like I do.
>i-it's good! You just have to fix the rattles when they turn up every other week! Don't give me that shit, fuckboy. I've owned both of these cars and the toyotas don't compare.
Noah Edwards
this is now a sexy BMW interior thread
Thomas Miller
Lol sure
Parker Thomas
>cinnamon E39 goddamn that's fucking sexy Has anyone ever seen one of these in the flesh? I didn't know they made E39s in cinnamon.
Justin Campbell
sand is a good color too
Jayden Jenkins
Excellent
Landon Gray
Can you make a Dropbox link for your meme folder? You post the same pictures every time. Maybe people can help you add some new ones?
Jonathan Peterson
Thats not a bad idea. Its not like i spend all day every day looking for broken bmws. They arent harr to find. But i get busy and such.
Colton Gonzalez
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Liam James
Buying a 99 540i wagon with M package. What are somethings I need to look for that may cause me problems?
Elijah Mitchell
>What are somethings I need to look for that may cause me problems? The whole car
Chase Morales
Timing chain tensioner. Cooling system. Random miscellaneous sensors, but none of them are a huge deal.
Dominic Price
I wish janitors would ban faggots like OP. It's one of those threads where no matter how many reasons we give they've already convinced themselves it's a good purchase or they've already bought it and they're defending it with their lives because they made a shit purchase.
Liam Perry
I don't recall anybody with any experience with it giving any reasons. There's just a fag posting about how it's a money pit. We just have to wait until googlecarfag gets here since he's one of the only people who actually own one of the V8s.
Ian Price
And they wont stay in their containment thread because they crave attention
Andrew Turner
>bmw owners telling people to buy bmws Blind leading the blind and deaf
Jose Lopez
Oh, and they have this annoying issue where the instrument cluster information display loses pixels due to a poor choice of adhesive for a ribbon cable in the assembly. You can get it fixed for about a hundred dollaridoos, it's worth having that display because it tells you if any fluids get low or any bulbs are out.
Liam James
Because it's a money pit if you've ever worked at a fucking dealership. We thrive off idiots like Chinese people who bought into the BMW meme. Doesn't sound like you even have a job since you buy old garbage.
Benjamin Foster
Well fuck you i own a BMW and I'm going to give my opinion anyway. It's an awesome car, but it would be incredibly annoying and prohibitively expensive to own if I didn't know how to do my own work. I recently had a local shop quote me $2500 for a clutch and flywheel job. Euro specialty shops will rape you for everything you have. It's well worth the additional money and time I spend on it compared to when I drove a civic just for the better driver experience and additional power.
Hunter Lee
I mean I kind of have a job I operate nuclear power plants for the navy It's gubmintbux but it pays the bills
Ryan Flores
>its a great car >proceeds to tell me its a terrible car Why do bmw fags have such delousions? Ive never met a sane one. Not once.
Ayden Green
>I moved up from a car with no power to a BMW I just got a porche 911 turbo guys. It's well worth the additional money and time I spend on it compared to when I drove a BMW M3 just for the better driver experience and additional power.
Eli Gray
Sure I believe you.
Jordan Bennett
Hey, a thread I can actually contribute to.
My first car was an E39 528i auto, about two months ago I bought an E39 540i manual. I fucking love this car. I test drove E46's as well, and I love them and acknowledge that they're monsters around corners whereas my E39 is just good, but holy hell I fucking love the E39.
Best interior that BMW ever had IMO, next to the slightly older 7. The E39 is also a heavy car that still manages to maintain a sporty and tight feel to it. I take it up on the touge regularly.
Now, part of my love for the car is for the V8 in the 540i. It puts out over 300 horsepower if you do a simply exhaust mod. Supposedly it's stock 298, but BMW seriously underreported performance in this generation of BMW's.
Now, for reliability. It depended on the car and previous owners. The Vanos seals eventually all need replacing, especially in older E39's, this is considered a must do on the BMW forums. The cooling system is also worth and upgrade. These two are the trouble spots in the E39. You don't need to do them right now, but when the car gets closer to 200k you probably will. Other than that, take care of engine codes and strange noises. It's not a particularly unreliable car, it's just the type of car you don't want to abuse. A decently maintained E39 won't give you much trouble unless the previous owner fucked something to begin with.
Wyatt Kelly
BMWs interiors fall apart like crazy i dated a girl all of her family drove them all of their interiors fell apart
Luis Reed
Forgot to add a few more things on top of the exhaust mod. Air filter and spark plugs as well, which are a good idea to do on a recent purchase anyway.
Jeremiah Ross
>10% of autismbux I'm pretty sure it costs me less than that to maintain my Corolla, no autism
Kayden Perez
blue pill here: BMW's are the ultimate driving machine can't beat German precision precision=reliability the Germans are the most innovative in the car industry, so you'll probably get features before any other company definitely hold their value better than any other brand
Caleb Sanchez
>heres this great drivers car good power meme meme meme >but you don't want to abuse it!
you can redline any japcar or amerishit POS all day every day and throw them into the corners, the shit doesnt break
yet you're supposed to prohibit yourself from enjoying your german car because itll probably break, crippling you with costs
LOL enjoy your lawn ornament status symbol
Lucas Myers
Should I buy a 525tds with 145,000 miles?
It's cheap as fuck and I'll be near it next week anyway
I don't think he meant don't drive it hard. I think he meant "don't drive it around with a check engine light and a misfire for months" If you've ever met a BMW driver you'd know we all drive like cunts, redlining off stops and taking corners like Germany took Poland.
Caleb Brooks
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Jace Walker
That's heat damage, what's your point?
Hudson Ramirez
30 year old toyotas dont have this issue
Easton Rogers
I meant abuse as in not replace the oil on time and let the car throw codes and noises without checking them.
You're really deluded into defending your $500 Japanese shitbox, aren't you? Funny thing is, I love Japanese cars, it's the poorfags like you who constantly go on about the memes that annoy me.
Gabriel Watson
sorry new corolla interiors are fucking shit this is goat with the 89-91 prelude tho
Benjamin Edwards
there's 30 year old bmws with mint interiors also
Brody Lee
You will always be wishing you got an E46 M3 instead.
Joseph Long
>but the car itself is known for being reliable, no major issues?
Said no one, ever.
Jacob Stewart
bimmer haters are either trolling or fucked in the head in this very moment you can buy a 500-700k km 1990-2007 bmw running with no issues or anything they are very reliable cars, more reliable than most amerishit or japshit
Dominic Perez
I was gonna say this. I only ever see the 530i and 540i here, no 535i for that era.
If it comes with a 6cyl, go for it. Especially with one owner, it shouldn't be bad at all. But the V8 engines are kinda a mess.
My friend's parents have an E39 530i with like 35k miles on the thing. It stays in the garage all the time and his dad takes car of their cars so well. I told him to sell it to me before they ever think about trading it in because you know the dealer will try and give them like $3k for it.
Luis Powell
Shhh, don't ruin the hard work that Toyota marketing has done in the US.