/pdg/ - Payday: The heist & Payday 2 General

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яussian

>raven is straight upgrade to reinfeld
>I like reinfeld better

>Loco is straight upgrade to GSPS
>I like GSPS better

>Platypus is straight upgrade to Nagant
>I like Nagant better

What's better: crook in lbv or crook in hbv (with iron man and die hard aced)?

honestly these days deathwish is easy enough it don't matter unless you're playing with pubs i guess

go for that style over substance any day my man

I do just fine in LBV with that setup

get gude get hoxhude

Id rather have the extra dodge over the extra armour

LBV by a very long shot, because of the way dodge works you need as much of it as possible to be good
iron man basic is not really worth it in crook because it stacks additively, not multiplicatively, so it's only 19 armor for LBV

9th for Sexy Eric Etabari

where are the /pdg/-tan lewds

ged gude, get parte hatte.

What is the name of his haircut? How I could do that?

>people who minmax their weapons
>caring about breakpoints
>only using meta builds
>can only stick to one play style and never switch it up
>worship the autism reddit guide
>needing to know every little percentage and stat for everything

I wish I had more than 5 profiles and 5 skillsets so I could include every minor variant/tweak of my main builds.

You care about this shit more than they do

This short post I've only made twice vs reading and memorizing a giant wall of text full of shit you learn anyway by just playing the game

>muh long guide

>retard who takes minigun and rpg at DW
>do not care about breakpoints, "MOM LOOK I'M HAVING FUN :DDDDD
>does not know that meta builds = good builds (or they weren't meta then)
>can play different styles: rogue in flack jacket, muscle in suit, LMGretard-style
>"guides for nerds ahahaaha count your numbers goofs hahahahh 'm just having fun"

>How dare people have fun in a different way than I do!

You have nothing to be triggered about, user
Don't be that guy for no reason

>there's nothing wrong with 39 damage, just shoot an extra bullet!

so what if I'm being a deadweight to the team by not having inspire, taking a shit deployable and going down constantly because I'm using retarded guns and skills I'M HAVING FUN I'M HAVING FUN I'M HAVING FUN I'M HAVING FUN YOU'RE NOT HAVING FUN

>musclesuit
This meme needs to die RIGHT NOW

>not having inspire

I don't have inspire but I think my build is pretty good when carrying people.

What other skills could you possibly have that require so many points?

I would have Inspire Aced but I take Fully Loaded Aced + Aced Frenzerker + Aced Iron Man because I'm a faggot that likes playing with the Breaker

I usually find Combat Medic to be good enough to revive people even in DW.

>Aced Frenzerker
Die, faggot. You are an useless scumbag, negative IQ exploit user

Go cry on the Payday 2 Steam forums coz I don't give a fuck, you whiners only make me continue using this build.

I won't go whine, I will kick you at the escape, retard ;)

it was only bad when it gave like 60% damage reduction because that combined with anarchist's 400 armor made you nearly invincible and if you went down to anything other than a cloaker even on death wish you were a certified shitter

I host my own games, stay mad that someone is using an ingame skill that Overkill programmed into the game.

Hoxinator

>rpg fag blows everyone up on purpose as a joke then gets cloaked right after

Why didn't the heisters just enter Big Bank directly from inside any of the alternative escape routes, thus bypassing the timelock AND getting to bring the drill with them?

>why didn't the heisters just cut Matt hat in Heat Street
>why didn't the heisters just take thermal drill /another equip in their van? why do they wait for Alex / Bile?
>why didn't the heisters just bring c4 on their own? why they must to picklock shit in Alesso heist / Golden Grin Casino

etc and picrelated
>w

most of those can be explained by them not being included in plan A, with the heisters canonically going there dressed for plan A
having to get the drill and thermite in the copy room in FWB makes no sense since it's not even stealthable in PD:TH though

How much hours played approximately would you need to have now to reach XXV-100 legitametly?

less than 500 if you like autism flakes

Why in the fuck are people playing shitty specs and joining DW without at least Inspire Aced? You can have whatever shitty role playing spec you want, but have that godamn inspire aced. Why are people so fucking dumb, why wont they get that skill. They are such a godamn burden without it. I should just kick people without inspire aced...

200-250 hours wouldn't be a stretch.

But still very suspicious because even though leveling is easy, that doesn't mean the newbie played optimally to grind that quickly.

Note that before SR DW was nerfed, you could hit a level of infamy in 4-6 hours of non-stop ECM rushing so multiply that by 25 and it's 100-150 hours. Rats PrOVK w/ 7 bags of meth is like 45 minutes and gives about 1.5 mil without infamy bonuses. Even ignoring shit like exp penalties, that's 15 Rats runs per infamy level at the early stages. So 15*45 = 675 minutes = 11.25 hours. So multiply that by 25 and it's about 281 hours. And that's assuming you started grinding optimally the moment you started playing.

So actually I guess anything under 300-350 hours is very, very suspicious.

Yeah this one had 179h, then I did the good thing.

Just check the times between infamies and then look up pd2stats and see how many Rats, Hoxton Memeouts, and Shadow Raid DWs he did.

Like, there's the chance he legitimately sat through 0-100 Cook Off / Santa's Workshop / Counterfeit / White Xmas games but I doubt it.

I did a DW Santa's Workshop with 121 bags (including titan safe) + at least 2 team boosts + 4 crew alive + XXV infamy bonus and got 12.9 mil exp. That took 74 minutes. Santa's Workshop apparently has a lv 10 job class so you don't lose any exp for dropping into it at lv 0.

Infamy bonuses are:
- 5 x 5%
- 8 x 7.5%
- 12 x 10%
For a total of +205% exp, aka. basically triple the exp at XXV compared to 0.

So a lv 0-0 would get 4.3 mil exp doing the same 121 bag run. Their first tour of infamy on that alone would be 5.5 runs which is 407 minutes or about 6.67 hours. XXV-0 to XXV-100 would be 2 runs so 2.5 hours.

Assuming linear change for time taken per infamy (it isn't but who cares) going from 0-0 to XXV-100 on 121 bag runs of DW Santa's Workshop is:

(6.67 + 2.5) * (26/2) = 8.17 hours * 13 = 106.21 hours

That is the minimum threshold number I would go with.
For speedrunning.
Not for a pub.
Probably could find something better for speedrunning but we're not pannenkoeken on TAS emulators.

I knew this guy looked familiar

Whats wrong with muscle suit meme

It's the single worst build concept imaginable (I legitimately can't think of anything worse) born only out of people failing to understand how dodge works and applying wrong math to extremely tunnel-visioned theorycrafting.
The only people keeping this shitty meme alive are the people who haven't even tried it out in-game but will defend it anyways because they just heard it was, in shitty theory, better than Rogue.

Have you considered that maybe people play it for fun?

I've never heard of someone saying "I think musclesuit is fun". They would be completely justified in saying that, everyone finds different things fun.
I have ONLY heard people saying "I think musclesuit is better than rogue" or "I think musclesuit is good". Which are objectively wrong and they should stop spreading that misinformation around before more idiots buy into it.

you shouldn't be relying on it that much to begin with

you can say the same out of any skill or weapon or deployable or perk deck and it would be more applicable than inspire
inspire is so universal it's just too good to pass up for anything else

hey you, get on your feet!

Sit on THIS, Cinderella!

Does anyone have the standalone "play cloaker sound" code?

This could work really well as part of the OST, complete with different tracks for the lulls between waves and such
youtube.com/watch?v=qURei6svd90

Dragon's breath is OP
nerf please

Just get the soundboard mod.

paydaymods.com/mods/59/ONMS
paydaymods.com/mods/406/ohshit

paydaymods.com/mods/65/BDB

Payday 2 "Mafia" clans when

cloaker_detect_mono
cloaker_detect_stop to stop the sound

bonus:
cloaker_detect_christmas_mono
cloaker_detect_christmas_stop

That's not what I meant but nvm fixed it ;)

>play cloaker noise
>CS Aced shitters charge up melee for like 10 seconds until they realize there's no cloaker around

Like clockwork

Why do we have to worry about the crowd in Alesso Heist after it goes loud?

GRAND DAD

Jiro is annoying

Rude, he is never going to find his son

Not to mention that Muscle actually makes you draw fire from the cops.

funfact: if 4 heisters are on a car and one of them has muscle, the cops will ONLY shoot him
it's hilarious to watch dudes get minced with laser accuracy in goat sim while everyone else takes no damage

Update when, where is the fucking tourney

In Rats you have to wait 2 times for Bain to be 100% sure on the ingredients?

If Bain says 1 ingredient only, its that one

If he says 1 and then he says another, its the second one

Kinda stupid, because Cook Off is AFTER Rats and still he knows shit about cooking

Yes.

i don't speak communist
what is this saying

>>I like GSPS better
t. /utg/ sokol and black on black goat mask shitter

MANDATORY CLOVER PORN POST

payday-clover.tumblr.com/

someone please make more

>"Interesting why we can't just send in four cloakers so they could take down all robers at same time?"
>"fuuuuuuuuck!"
>"shiet!"
>"bitch are you fucking Hox, are you GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS?"
>"dodger"
>"bitch fuck for SUCH questions people are fucking killed in my custody"

quick
i need pictures
pictures of jimmy

...

is this the caustic soda

he put the sode

Memes

79th for chocolate pdg-tan

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Elephant In The Room (elephant_4_jobs)
- Full Measure (halloween_2)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

Jimmy doesn't sound South African at all.

Reminder that having secrets is bad and that you should share them with me

If you read this your a wanker

83 for pdgtan a shit

>Elephant in the room,
>more biker heist DW on crime.net

it's gonna be a shit day

Jiro doesn't sound japanese at all

Hello guys i haven't played scince the skins for guns update. I just want to know is there any way for me to get free steambux from this game like in csgo?
Is guns worth anything?
How do i get them without spending money on ingame transactions?
Do type of the gun i get depends on the map? I mean do i need to buy dlc to get better skins? I only have picrelated

play once a week
sell safe for less than 1bux

>I just want to know is there any way for me to get free steambux from this game like in csgo?
You get one random safe per week that you can sell for decent profits. Apart from that, just buy skins at really low prices and sell them at normal prices.

>How do i get them without spending money on ingame transactions?

Just open the safe you get every week. The biker safes are really cheap so nobody will say here they will hurt your wallet too much

Daily reminder there is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping some high accuracy stats for your shotguns

>4 hours until next update

and then another 4 hours to install the update

And what's it gonna be? Cause housewarming party starts only in October

Daily reminder that silencing your raven and taking specialized killing based (3 points) help you to reach breakpoint with fletchette ammo without buying shotgun impact aced (4 points)

Judge is the best weapon in the game

>high damage
>great ammo pickup
>multiple kills with one shot
>highly concealable good
>good with any type of skillset
>fast reload
>looks good
>fast fire rate

With HE
>break dozer faceplates with one shot each
>keep dozers stunned as long as you keep shooting them
>can kill shields from the front
>can countersnipe snipers
>can knock a room full of enemies to their ass buying you time to escape or switch to your primary and kill them
>can't stun cloakers but can still kill them if you fire fast enough
>destroys the captain and his squad
>can setup easy dominations on cops

Are other weapons even trying?

a recolored party hat

My dick is the best weapon in the game

>high damage
>great ammo pickup
>multiple kills with one shot
>highly concealable good
>good with any type of skillset
>fast reload
>looks good
>fast fire rate

With HE
>break dozer faceplates with one shot each
>keep dozers stunned as long as you keep shooting them
>can kill shields from the front
>can countersnipe snipers
>can knock a room full of enemies to their ass buying you time to escape or switch to your primary and kill them
>can't stun cloakers but can still kill them if you fire fast enough
>destroys the captain and his squad
>can setup easy dominations on cops

Are other dicks even trying?

fucking stupid motherfuckers I swear. new rule I'n not reviving anyone who is more than 10 meters away. I go revive some dumbass motherfucker then everyone else just ignores me fucking idiots I swear I hate everyone who plays this game. Inspire needs to give the reviver a damage resistance buff after saving someone

>new rule I'n not reviving anyone who is more than 10 meters away.

Dumb rule

>go to kill winters because newbs don't fucking care about him and assault / debuff
>kill him / almost kill, then go down because of cloacker / dozer
>stupid players blame you "what are you did there, gtfo i will not revive you!!!"

>cloacker
>going alone

you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about