Was Pre-European invasion Polynesia the closest thing to Heaven ?

>Food is available everywhere, easily : just have to stretch you hand and you get fruits, vegetables and fish by hundreds
>Food mentioned above is god-tier tasty because of the climate
>god-tier climate, it is never cold, no winter, rain just as you need it, if it's too hot you go bathe in rivers or sea
>Lots of free-time to do whatever the fuck you want, including fucking surfing on amazing beaches
>Girls are god-tier, always half-naked, and easy (pic related)
>Wars between tribes are basically schoolyard fights, at the first death everyone calms down and has an orgy or whatever
>Dancing and singing are god-tier, and the national sport
>Complete sexual freedom, even traps are allowed to exist as a 3rd sex
>people are helping each other, private property is a very loose concept

Really makes you think, and understand why the Bounty sailors quit it all for that life

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hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2000to2004/2004-sexual-behavior-in-pre-contact-hawaii.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māhū
youtube.com/watch?v=lE1ozN5tfoU
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Why do you think transvestites are a good thing? Are you insane- or evil?

Was civilization a mistake? Is this is meaning of the myth of original sin? Eating out of the "tree of knowledge"?

I was thinking the same OP. The new world generally was heaven, with Polynesia being the cherry on the top.

If they leave me alone they can do whatever the fuck they want, Emmanuel. So i'd count that as a freedom. Also don't confuse LGBTQ bullshit with "rae rae" pls

Because gender freedom is part of the cultural achievement of the 21st century as opposed to the 20th. If you have a problem with that

Pre-Euro Hawaii sounds like heaven if you're into incest or pedophilia
hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2000to2004/2004-sexual-behavior-in-pre-contact-hawaii.html
Actually interesting article, also touches on sexual practices of other polynesian islands

>Among ali‘i, an experienced chiefess, usually a blood “aunt,” instructed and trained the young males. Similarly, young females were trained by their “aunt,” by another experienced woman, or by a tutu kane. The training concerned not only what to expect and what to do but also how to increase or maximize pleasure. Less formal but similar training was afforded to commoners. There was practice as well as theory. A young male was taught “timing” and how to please a female in order to help her attain orgasm (Pukui, Haertig, and Lee, 1972, p. 79). A young female was taught how to touch and caress a male and move her body to please them both. She was taught how to constrict and rhythmically contract her vaginal muscles (Pukui, Haertig, and Lee, 1972, p. 79). Several of the informants who were interviewed remember being so instructed. One adult female told of being instructed on how to get her vagina to “wink.”.
>Peripubertal females, in many cultures of Oceania, were noted to often be publicly sexually active with adults (Oliver, 1974, p. 362). Cook (1773, Vol. 1, p. 128) reported copulation in public in Hawai‘i between an adult male and a female estimated to be 11 or 12 “without the least sense of it being indecent or improper.” The disapproval implicit in Cook’s report probably was caused as much by the public nature of the activity as by the age-related aspects. In Tahiti, one missionary noted in his diary that the High Priest Manimani, “though nearly blind with age, is as libidinous now as when thirty years younger; …[he] has frequently upwards of a dozen females with him, some of them apparently not above twelve or thirteen years of age”

It was (is still) a Civilization, with culture, religion, rites, songs, language, architecture, etc...

If it was part of their culture who cares?

>>Wars between tribes are basically schoolyard fights, at the first death everyone calms down and has an orgy or whatever
>Who are the Maori

Be careful with dat cultural relativism yo, next you'll be saying honor killings are cool

But nah I think it's great, Pre-Euro polynesia seems like paradise

>get a bad cut
>die to horrific jungle infection

It is cultural tho, pedophilia is badly seen since very few years ago in western Europe
>people were trained to become sex-gods
Count that as a new plus, my first time was with a Tahitian girl and I haven't found better since

laying it on a bit too thick there

>>>/reddit/

>cultural relativism
hello shlomo

Maori are an exception though, they lived in a temperate place, and are very recent, New Zealand wasn't occupied before 1500 if I recall righ (?)

>There may be an alternate universe where the industrial revolution happened in the Pacific instead of Europe
>Polynesians colonized the world, and everywhere they went they spread their sexually liberal, carefree society
>q.t. islander chicks everywhere and all the coconut water you can drink
>Massive greenhouses in colder areas to recreate the Polynesian environment

Why couldn't I have been born on this alternate Earth reeeeee

No. The end of the Goden Age was inevitable. Things got worse in some respects, and overall a lot worse in certain time periods, but we're over all better off now than when we were simply structured.

Why do you think 'crossdressing' whatever that means is a bad thing. Are you insane or evil?

>tfw you really meant transgender

Would never happen tho, Western civs progressed much faster with science because they had to, to survive, while Polynesians already had everything they needed, thus no incentives to develop

Yeah, I bet their society would be "better off" if you jailed them all for statutory rape.

Not him but
>If you have a problem with things I like you can go to x

Stop ruining Veeky Forums faggot.

Terrible diseases also came mostly with the whites. As there was little to no agriculture in most Islands, wouldn't there be much less viruses/plagues etc ?

>/pol/ trigged because they've been found out

Back to your shithole:

hello r*ddit

Did pre-europeans Polynesia had "traps"?

>no civilization
Trash.

Kind of, but it was more like a third sex than "traps". They still exist, there were a few of them in my High school
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māhū

Someone else started a Polynesia thread. I was thinking about something Polynesia-related recently.

>these people are so fucking sharp and brave that they will take their wood boat a thousand miles in some direction, not knowing that there is land

>they sprinkle themselves among all the islands, at this late stage of human migration

I'm just very impressed that they had balls enough to settle new areas for presumably the first time ever, that way. Of course, they even brought their women with them.

My homeboard is /f/ but what ever.

t.

>not a generic white european continental civilization
Doesn't mean it's not a civilization.
Read a book Kevin.

pretty hot, but primitive.
I prefer the struggle :)

>Mfw I open the link and learn about the neapolitan "femminielli"
Man, even for an italian neapolitans are fucking weird

Sacrificing people ontop of pyramids sounds like heaven to me.

Post more polynesian qts.

Probably, just throw in some modern medicine.

Oh wait don't, that causes huge population booms and then you end up with the 21st century.

Although that led to problems now : the harsh conditions of travel on wood boats (va'a) led to a late natural selection, which made the average Polynesian much more strong and easily stocking sugar.
However, with the changes in their regime, with more and more sugar in their plates coming with western food, this condition leads to a widespread diabetes problem in Polynesia.

It's not like the randomly sailed around on their canoes

They knew where they were going, they had advanced navigation techniques

11 or 12 in a pre civilisation culture is basically 18.

Has anyone heard of that rape island where men get chased by women and held down and raped, it's the only way people get pregnant?

youtube.com/watch?v=lE1ozN5tfoU

>If it was part of their culture who cares?
Did we just attend our first anthropology class today?

Not really, tribal fights were most likely not schoolyard fights.

I remember reading about Maori invading an island and completely genociding the population and eating their corpses.

>Girls are god-tier
>q.t. islander chicks
>
>Post more polynesian qts

Careful, boys. They're cute when they're young, but they age TERRIBLE

I worked for a cruise ship comany for 12 years. Saw Hawaii, Guam and everything in between. "everything" included watching my qt coworkers turn 30+

OP was probably refering to Papuan ritual warfare, where most conflicts ended when someone died and then they had a feast.

Papuans are Melanesians, not Polynesians.

This misses the point. Of course they could chart a course using the stars(?) and stick to it over many days. It goes without saying that they were and are great maritime navigators.

The point, rather, is that someone had to discover New Zealand, French Polynesia, Hawaii, Rapa Nui for the first time, ever. When they sailed in the general direction of these places, they didn't know /for a fact/ that there was something there. So they're doing long voyages when it might very well happen that there's no land. And then something could go wrong with the boat.

Ballsy.

Human/humanesque Females in general all hit the wall around 30 though. That isn't unique to Polynesians. It's a basic feature of the human condition: women age like shit, and take a steep dive in physical attractiveness around age 30.

Even if Polynesians look particularly potato-like post-thirty, that doesn't impeach my general observation. And in any given race, there's always a few outlier exceptions (individual women who age ridiculously well) which just go to prove the above general rule, by dint of their rarity.

I know what you're thinking. White women, if they were genuinely cute to begin with, don't immediately become potatoes-as-such. Except in America of course, they get fat, or they look like men in the Nordic countries, etc etc. Or else they just look plain busted and wrinkled. Post-thirty. Which is my point.

As for older attractive outliers, Halle Berry (esp. circa ten years ago) comes to mind, although she has the benefit of makeup, handlers, and appearing to us usually as an image, as opposed to an RL person.

>babies first noble savages fantasy

>It's a basic feature of the human condition: women age like shit, and take a steep dive in physical attractiveness around age 30.
Yes, but some worse than others

I agree, but that's what he was probably refering to.

>No extensive plumbing network of regulated clean drinking water. Risk of diarrheal illness from contaminated water sources
>No extensive plumbing network to deal with sewage - no flushable loos
>no antibiotics - the merest chance scratch can quickly get out of control and kill you
>No way of reaching higher and more interesting culinary practices

And all the other things people take for granted in the modern age etc etc.

>bacteria doesn't exist
>illness doesn't exist
>evul whitey bought all these things to these places

>where the industrial revolution happened in the Pacific

Except it would have been literally impossible considering how many factor were necessary for it to happen. Industrialisation could only ever be brought to those places - not reached independently in them.

until your pacifist nation gets conquered and cannibalized by invading Maori's as happened to the Chatham Marioris...

I realize there are a lot of external forces that have to be at play for an industrial revolution to happen. However, if the many worlds theory is correct, no matter how convoluted it sounds there exists a world where it happened in the Pacific.

For example, maybe there were thousands of more islands which formed a chain towards mainland Asia which allowed for an exchange of ideas and less seclusion, etc.

Food was not available everywhere dumbass. We would feast sometimes for days or a week and then not eat anything for a week or two. We still had famines and droughts and before the introduction of many species we were a largely starch heavy, coconut heavy people's.

Literally every crops comes from our Melanesian ancestors save for sweet potato in the tradition of canoe plants.

Cannibalism, extreme caste systems, enslavement, long days of working on bland that's not yours, being restricted from eating and wearing things based on your birth, bitter wars over limited resources, forced to migrate to a new island and from there another.

Stop being a squarebear, though I am happy about my ancestors and their skills it wasn't all idllyic yet I wish we didn't go down the way we did during and after colonialism.

Had you read the above, then you would know that I had thought of that, and my reply is basically "okay, maybe, but it's as close among the races as makes no difference. The lasting, common feature is how human women hit the wall at 30." I go on to illustrate this in some detail by pointing out that American women simply get fat, Nordic women get ugly in different ways (looking severe), etc.

Mexicans also turn into fat potatoes, for instance. I had basically already replied to and addressed your response before you even wrote it.

>Wars between tribes are basically schoolyard fights, at the first death everyone calms down and has an orgy or whatever
Not true at all. There were a few peaceful peoples. The rest were bloodthirsty savages that who were evil to the bone by civilized standards.

There should be more porn about native girls and European explorers/conquerors.

>Someone says something that doesn't fit with my liberal hugbox they automatically have to be from /pol/ a bloo a bloo a bloo
This shit is a hundred times worse than /pol/.

There's plenty of that in Japanese porn at least.

>Among ali‘i, an experienced chiefess, usually a blood “aunt,” instructed and trained the young males.
Shit, they literally had a job position solely for /ss/

The voices of Japanese women are insufferable and it's made ten times worse by them acting like they are in agony while having sex.

Stop ruining our orientalist fantasies, user.

>Food is available everywhere, easily : just have to stretch you hand and you get fruits, vegetables and fish by hundreds
>Complete sexual freedom
>Girls are god-tier, always half-naked, and easy
>god-tier climate, it is never cold, no winter, rain just as you need it, if it's too hot you go bathe in rivers or sea
>Lots of free-time to do whatever the fuck you want, including fucking surfing on amazing beaches

so why didn't the population increase exponentially?

>thinking things can be evil
>thinking like a fucking 8 year-old

Been tossing around the idea of writing historic erotica for Veeky Forums and /gif/
For free, might accept donations or commissions
Just don't want to get banned is all

Would any of you lads be behind this?

I myself would never likely donate to something like that, but what exactly are you proposing? Subject? Length? How hardcore?

They killed all their unwanted babies, and had no qualms doing it.
It was the price of paradise.

m8, writing erotica isn't like doing art for commission. Almost anyone can write decent smut, so very few people will pay for it so I really doubt you'll even get donations.

Although I have to admit I myself have thought about creating a Literotica account and posting erotic stories on there for Veeky Forums...

First idea I had was conquistador + aztec
They would be short in length, straight to the point with some short epologuish type aftermath.

I could get one out a week, 2000 words maybe.

It would be for me as much as you, since writing erotica gives me the nastiest stiffy (like a built in quality meter). Any donation would be extra for a beer or something, as well as commissions which I can't see taking more than maybe 20 for unless some horny humdog wants a whole novella.

Would get as nasty as they were in their time. No "it was spurts and spurts in hot, shivering pulses for what felt like forever, only made worse by her smug little giggles, when Faustina ripped the duct tape off Günter X-2's time-travelling titanium ballsack; he vomited in ecstacy."

Taking suggestions, I guess. Might have something tomorrow evening.

Of course it isn't, but it's nice to be appreciated nawmsayn my niggsta :^)

Getting ideas for a not-underage Tahitian seducing a skiddish missionary. Maybe I'll write it, still on vacation.

found the morale relativist

if a muzzie fuck your nine yeard old daughter, don't go to the police, after all this is their culture.

Do you know much about history? Fappable situations are easy enough, but mixing in historic esoterica would make it shine.

Whatever I don't already know (regardless of what anyone says, if you're on Veeky Forums for history you at least have an inkling of an idea of what the heck went on before you were squelched from mom's pussydoodle) I can always find out.

Nothing turns a horny everyman into a high-speed research specialist like extremely specific sexual interests and an internet connection.

But you sold your daughter to him in the first place, so what would the police do?

aside from the tranny part yes it was heaven. except for the nigger maoris and for the starving Rapa Nuians

>rape island
is this a thing?

Wouldn't really call Sweden an island

>hordes of blonde Swedish girls chasing down poor, devote Muslim men and raping them
;_;

It's a sign of having a mental illness. Only a piece of shit would suggest that trannys should continue their lifestyle and not seek help.

None of that is what constitutes a civilization, though.

> It's a sign of having a mental illness.
Nice try, but you can't plead insanity just from wearing dress, user.

>conquerors
nah the explorer being captured is better

>when you live as a bunch of non civilized barbarians with no hierarchy or organization the moment you meet a civilization that has actual organization and structure you get totally btfo end being being genocide and an extreme minority in your own homelands

Huh that really made me think

Wanting to wear dresses if you are a male is a sign of a much larger problem.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

Island populations have a bad habit of going boom and bust; there's a reason why cannibalism is is frequently practiced in that region.

Just say it out you hate trannies and you find them disgusting. It's okay. You're on Veeky Forums.

But stop pretending that it's your vehement care for their health and wellbeing that makes you want to ban trannyism.

Or you can just like dresses, they are comfy as fuck. Why only girls allowed wear pretty clothes anyway? There is literally no reason for this shit.

Stop kidding yourself. It's people like you who offer false hope to the mentally ill. There is a reason that 50% of trans people kill themselves after they go through sex reassignment surgery. It's because it doesn't work. But I guess that won't stop you from convincing more people to mutilate themselves.

There is difference between cross dressing and a gender change.

>It's people like you who offer false hope to the mentally ill.
No we just let them do whatever the fuck they want as long as they're not murdering people.

>It's because it doesn't work.
No it's because they're a fucking mess. They think that maybe becoming a trannie is that one last resort that may just make their life better, kinda like you think losing your virginity will make you into a normal functioning human. And then when it doesn't (not for everyone, at least), they give up finally.

What's it to you? Stop pretending you give a shit about them lmao.

Are you going to ban alcohol too because depressed people seek solace from it?

Why not install sharia while you're at it?

>Tribal humans
>peaceful

Pick one.

at least /pol/ is creative about it....

>even traps are allowed to exist as a 3rd sex
I like that but without modern medication a somewhat small wound could kill you

Dude, if you wanna make a VN I'd be up for it.

dont be so melodramatic man.

>peaceful islanders
>were war cultures
>cannibals
>look what happened to the Moriori, this was common enough that they had rules of how to subjugate tribes like this,

Truely, a barbaric people

Yes, just like how because there's an infinite amount of numbers between one and two, there simply must be a three.

Dumbass.

Whoa it's a blueboard you numskull.