A thread to discuss about Econo-Pocket-Rockets. Regular hatches welcome too.
>hatchback questions and answers >post your pocket-rockets >you adventures with it >what have you fixed recently? >what upgrades do you plan in it? >post anything hatchbacks
>What is a "Hot Hatch"? A Hot Hatch is a manufacturer produced, performance oriented variant of a standard hatchback, designed for improved handling, increased top speed, acceleration and generally enhance the driving experience.
>Are all Hot Hatches FWD? No. Whilst most Hot Hatches are FWD, some are AWD or even RWD.
>Isn't FWD shit? No. Just because you can't get the arse out by stamping on the accelerator doesn't mean you can't have fun.
>Aren't Hot Hatches just for Europoors? No; with the launch of the Fiesta and Focus ST in the US, it seems like the Hot Hatch is beginning to take off on the other side of the Atlantic, but Europoors definitely have more choice.
>Is the Fiesta ST actually good? The Fiesta ST is one of the best small hot hatches on offer at the minute; so yeah they're pretty good.
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Current Hot Hatch Star of the Week - Nissan Pulsar Nismo Concept
>be washing my Fiesta ST today >some butch woman with a Focus ST washing her car in the bay next to mine >she comes over and chats with me and is pretty nice >tells me she wishes she got the fiesta instead of focus >shoot the shit about cars for a few minutes >invites me to a ST/RS meetup
sh-should I go?
John Morgan
Can you show me some HH with RWD?
Gavin Miller
Not looking for a race car, but I'm possibly looking at buying a Focus. Why the fuck do I have to get the "Titanium" package just to get leather seats? In fact you can't get leather seats with any car without paying for a bunch of other shit I don't even want.
Kayden Morris
please go and make friends so you can get off this board
Cameron Lewis
I have a 2015 Civic Si. I've been researching where to start in terms of squeezing more power out of it and naturally I thought CAI. But after going to multiple forums, everyone says you HAVE to get a $700 tune for it to make a difference.
On top of that, a retune is $100 for every changed part. So I'd have to pay $100 and drive aroud for diagnostics every time I added a part. So, I feel like it's either save up $2200 for ALL the mods at once, or just say fuck it and try to pay it off to get something else.
Thoughts?
Sebastian Rogers
but you guys are my friends
Julian Scott
Why wouldn't you?
Z3M Coupe/M Coupe Ford Shogun
Owen Gomez
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Leo Green
You can work with a dealer to order a car, but you won't get much of a price break. Dealer ordered cars always are loaded up on features because they can sell them at a higher price. No reason to order a mid-range optioned vehicle for them unless it's an order.
Some places offer tunes with unlimited revisions for life, but i don't know if this is a thing on the Honda platform. You might get a little more noise from an intake, but a tune will really unlock the most power in any modern car.
Jackson Gonzalez
Ok, sounds like I need to get the tune then.
The 2 forums I went to both recommended VIT tuning as the most reputable for Honda Si's
But fuck. $700. Oh well
Nathan Scott
Also, will I be putting reliability in any serious jeopardy? After driving an E46 330xi, I'm REALLY enjoying the low maintenance of Honda.
Jacob Butler
>rice tax
Jack Davis
I mean you'll definitely cause increased wear and tear extracting higher performance from everything, and you'll also jeopardize any warranty you might have left. But it'll also be fun.
Gavin Cruz
Is that what that means?
i always thought it meant any given rice car was gonna be more trashed because of the people who usually drive/mod them
t. firsttimejapanesecarowner
Carter Nguyen
tuners for fiesta STs offer unlimited tunes for around $300
Bentley Nelson
well fuck me right
Jason Watson
Just drove home my new car. Loving it so far.
Isaiah Cruz
Congrats on your purchase and those trips.
Austin Campbell
You should go. It sounds like the start of an adventure!
Jason Reyes
Wait for the i30N.
Nathan Baker
>hyundai >waiting when ford will surely fuck up the FiST and FoST on the next redesigns
Grayson Sullivan
just got to stage 1 in my FiST this past week. Installed the Cobb RMM yesterday, seems to be doing it's job well, much less wheel hop (almost completely eliminated) on WOT 2nd gear pulls.
I've read that there is no need to go to a 'stage 3' on this car, and that the only other thing it needs to unlock maximum power on the stock turbo is a new intercooler and pro tune. Anyone have knowledge if this is true?
I was planning to do a new IC sometime next year probably once I put my sticky tires back on after snow season.
Can confirm on a stock turbo Fiesta ST you won't see additional gains for anything other than an intercooler and a custom tune. If you're going to do a turbo swap you'll probably need a turbo-back exhaust.
Congrats on getting the RMM installed.
Jackson Garcia
thx for the info senpai
also i'm going to the ST octane academy in October, anyone else been?
Jackson Thompson
Fuark, anyone know similar two door hot hatches being sold in the US?
Is that a Scirocco?
Jayden Scott
The closest one is a VW R which is the only available two-door hatch available in the US I guess.
I think that's an OPEL Astra GT or something.
David King
I mean Golf R.
Luis Brown
>people unironically recommending the golf R
Gavin Clark
Something wrong with the golf R?
Joseph Bennett
I want a Mazdaspeed 3 but I have heard people describe the experience as "more like an amusement park ride than a car."
Does anyone daily drive one?
Nicholas Lopez
It's 35k for a Golf with Haldex AWD are the general complaints.
Jonathan Hall
Looks really good breh.
Astra OPC.
Jordan Stewart
Better than just the straight FWD on the GTI, and apparently it's the only 3 door hot hatch
Jonathan Robinson
Thanks Famalam.
Those are some sexy white rims.
Cameron Morgan
Okay Veeky Forums,
Ausfag here, should I buy a MK6 GTI?
Sebastian Hall
i can only speak for my self, But i dislike the interior of VAG cars. Feels so plastic.
But say more, whats your budget?
Isaac Gomez
About $25k
Jason Baker
Seat leon cupra r 10-2013 is you like the VAG styleing.
Renault Mégane III 2.0T
Or a VW MK6, but make sure its not DSG.
Dylan Miller
Whats wrong with the DSG apart from the obvious that its not manual?
Carter Thompson
They break, simply put.
Just google "DSG Trans problems" and there tons of articles. But also, in a HH, you´ll want it to be manual.
pic kinda releated.
Gabriel Jones
I wish I had the chance too, I was pretty busy the year after I bought my car unfortunately, never got a chance to make it out to Utah.
Easton Wilson
Not to mention, instead of selling certain parts, VAG only offers to sell you a reman tranny for a few grand. They won't even sell you a new one.
Nathan Sullivan
Is Geo Metro a good car to start learning manual? How will the maintenance costs be? Yes, this is gonna be my first car.
Liam Perez
I bought a hot hatch, thoughts?
Michael Bennett
you made the right choice, enjoy it and may you find many twisties in your future
Nolan Jenkins
Growing up a bit and moving on from my RA65. Looking for a fun/lightweight hatch with a bit of storage space and usable back row. Can have 2 or 4 doors, prefer 2
Isaac Davis
Looks good user, the stripes are more subtle than in the stock photo.
Ian James
Noice user. I like the subtle stripeing.
whats the power output in one of those?
Parker Reed
197hp and 202lb-ft
The Mountune MP215 kit retains warranty and bumps it up to 215hp and 236lb-ft, though it has to be dealer installed ($$$)
Logan Watson
How is the FiST on the highway? Don't imagine the Recaros are too comfy. Might have to go on a cross-country trips.
Xavier Young
Still a terrible value.
Juan Sanders
Recaro's are super comfy on the highway, they just need to break in from the factory. I routinely have done 5-6 hour trips in mine and love it. It's also a super quiet highway, but pretty bumpy. Downsizing wheels helped me out a lot with ride quality.
Also the qt3.14 used to hate the Recaro seats, but now likes them well enough to ride in them on long-ish trips.
Kevin Sullivan
What's the latest about the new Civic Type R product model? wasn't there some shit about the one that got the 'ring record being a prototype or not production spec?
Christopher Martin
dynos have consistently shown the torque ratings are significantly higher than rated as stock. I think peak torque is actually 220-230 lb-ft stock as dyno tested by a few independant sources.
The cobb OTS stage 1 map should get you near 245-250 lb-ft of torque which is pretty crazy for such a light car and no (significanlt) modfications
Juan Reyes
New golf r when? Why no r400 ever?
Thomas Mitchell
dieselgate
Jace Allen
Any reason not to pick up a Fiesta ST this year? I know there is a refresh on the horizon but people seem to think Ford is going to fuck it up somehow
Jordan Wright
No, the 17s will likely be very similar to the 16s. Though they might depreciate faster due to the model refresh, who can really know?
You might be best off finding a lightly used 15 or 16 instead of buying new.
The 2018s are likely to be quite a bit nicer inside though.
Jace Allen
16's have the new SYNC which is better
Robert Green
Congrats man. Looks real nice.
Alexander Sullivan
what this guy said . Also android auto should be soon (tm).
The refresh is likely to be in 2018, i'm not too confident that ford won't fuck it up. They've got a great thing going. I don't see the engine changing but probably an interior/exterior refresh, which could be a problem if they add too much weight
Alexander Morales
Looking good man. Blue HH crew reporting in :) A friend of mine will take decent pictures are I get my coils.
This is my Scirocco.
Isaiah Campbell
just bought an 3' GTI VR6 a few months ago, any mods you guys suggest?
Jordan Morgan
ECOBOOST
but for realz, a simple tune, is good bang for your bucks
Asher Cox
2003* and here is a pic
Oliver Phillips
Springs, ARBs, bushes...
Jace Torres
silver isn't my favorite color but hope you have fun bud :)
William Hughes
Took my license in a Golf GTI, best car I've ever driven, only problem with it was the too sensitive breaks, if you moved the pedal half an inch it came to a full stop. Maybe I'm just used to old worn out cars.
Wyatt Martin
you probably are; at any rate that's something that can be changed if needed. I recently drove my gf's car and told her I thought she needed new brakes because they needed so much more travel then my cars but she said that's always how it's been
Adrian Campbell
New car. Already pumped a grand into it for services.
Just done at 120k >Timing belt, water pump >Serpentine belt >Power steering fluid change, full synthetic oil change.
Parts ready, installation this week >New radiator, new brakes and rotors, fix front left wheel bearing, raise front suspension to stop fender rub
To Do: >New non rice deck, 10" spec built subwoofer and clean amp for tasteful sound and clarity >custom diamond stitched hood bra to cover up minor blemishes >Window Tint >Gloss dip mirrors black >sandblast and powder coat wheels gunmetal grey as well as brake pads in fresh red or color matched blue.
So far though im loving the car. Its old but it's fun to drive. Cant wait to work out the tint kinks and have a smooth ride.
John Powell
>ecoboost
Ryder Smith
So this is the new 2017 Civic Hatchback. > 1.5-liter DOHC direct-injected turbocharged in-line 4-cylinder with peak output of 174 horsepower and 162 lb.-ft. of torque in LX, EX and EX-L trims >180 horsepower and 162 lb.-ft. of torque in the Sport and an all-new Sport Touring
>31/40/34 mpg (city/highway/combined) for CVT-equipped models
>The 2017 Civic Hatchback was developed jointly by Honda R&D teams in Europe and Japan and will be manufactured exclusively by Honda of the UK Manufacturing in its Swindon, UK plant.
Zachary Lopez
Also forgot to add. >6 speed manual
Caleb Hernandez
I could be wrong, but don't you have to get the CVT for any of the desirable engine configs? (outside of maybe the Type R)
Josiah Robinson
I have witnessed VW manuals dropping shifter forks without any warning into the gears rendering the gearbox seized solid. Then again that is way less common than DSG just shitting its mechatronics.
Josiah Lopez
Wooow that thing is ugly.
Kevin White
I think it looks quite nice, big improvement over the 9th gen hatchback, 2L diesel when.
Carson Nguyen
Woah man, that looks cool enough. So does it mean the hatchback will cost more than the sedan?
Lincoln Watson
It looks like an edged up Mazda 3... I wish japanese would return to simple and function designs, rather than trying to be exaggerated edge lords.
Might not be a bad option but holy crap it's ugly. I wish it was more.. hatchy with a taller back. It reminds me of the 2016 accord crosstour which is also ugly as fuck (pic related)
Leo Wright
so that nissan in the OP, is it something we'll see in burgerland?
Isaac Bailey
you to get the st titanium is just the i am too dumb to buy a full size sedan trim
Jayden Johnson
what the fuck am i looking at
Jace Allen
Canadian here. 43k for a new gti 5 door in Ontario. Ugh what is happening to our currency