Redpill me on the GT86/BRZ/FR-S Veeky Forums

They need camber adjustment on the front wheels and better tires. Torque dip get talked about a lot but you'll be revving above it when you're on it, and its there for fuel economy when you're just cruising around. It is to the current decade what the old 86 and 240sx were to the 80s and 90s.

Car looks cool and is a cool concept. Fucked up by having garbage boxxer engine.

Can't drift a fiesta

If you want to modify a car it's a solid choice
youtube.com/watch?v=Ut55yR2Yu8M
Better as a cheap base model with no toys.

And if you don't live in America? if outright performance isn't a concern are they good for late night dorifto out of the box or do they need mods?

I'd rather have erectile disfunction than torque dip.

This.
Although ill probably still buy one and never mod it.

>for the price you could buy a substantially more boring landbarge

k

It's great but way too fucking expensive.

>way too expensive
Theyre $27k new, stick with your beater civics you fucking poorfag

>tfw live in a second world country
>tfw salary is ~1000Euros
>tfw this is better than 99% of the population
>tfw even though I'm an electrical engineer, cars like this are out of my reach and always will be

move to a first world country and earn your 1000 euros every week

>leave behind friends, family and country just so I can buy the newest car

There are more important things than $$$s. I am sad however that sportscars hold their values so well. Most cars lose half of their value in the first 2 years, but GT-86s have lost 2-3k$ tops, and have been truly abused during that time.

The torque dip is like having an inch of dick in the middle that doesn't get hard.

kek

>There are more important things than $$$s
And this is why you will always be at the hilt of Americas dick

>America
>Highest debt in the history of debt.

>Slow
>cheap
>Look alright
>modder's wet dream

One of the rare times when you could get a better deal buying an AE86 mememobile

>And still able to buy brz

Get fucked poorfag.

It's a decent, entirely modular, cheap sports car that comes with a six-speed option in the days of boring appliances designed for women. Veeky Forums once worshipped the car until it became another meme and became the next target of bitter busriders.

My only debt is my brz. Suck it europoor

Slower than an $8000 Boxster

Porsche disaster race

>Redpill

Why so many active 86 threads, is it all just a shitpost?

>tfw this could've been a good car without the meme engine.
No idea why Subaru keeps on pushing their inherently flawed engine.

>used to post back in 12-13'
>got tired of the anime
>this car came out
>loved the concept
>slowerthanaminivan.jpg
>feels bad man
>stop coming to Veeky Forums
>come back
>see this
>Veeky Forums is still shit

Front Wheel Drive shit box vs a proper sports car?

>biggest gap is 2 seconds
Easily driver error

It doesn't have a chevy 350 in it

>Brostang
>landbarge
U wot m7

>2 seconds
>driver error

I'm not defending either car here, but have you ever gone on a race track?

>190in long 3500lb heavy
>not a morbidly obese landbarge

No, have you?

That's irrelevant. A driver error could easily account especially for those sub-second time differences.

More often than you, apparently

So no.

>frogposting
Public transit user detected

3000lb 140whp shitbox mounted on prius tires

>cheap
When will this meme die?
When it comes to small FR the 86 is btfo by the cheaper Miata. When it comes to other sports cars as a whole there are far cheaper options: Mustang, Civic si, Focus ST, even Camaro is the same price for 135 more hp.

A used M3 is always the better choice.

It's big but fast. Faster than both these shit cars and your bus too.

>When it comes to small FR the 86 is btfo by the cheaper Miata.
Good the the 86 doesn't look like a fucking chick car then. Of all the stupid Veeky Forums memes, that one is the most correct.

The miata is only faster when optioned out to cost more
Also no roof etc

The rest of the cars you listed... roflmao

What are you babbling about? The buzzwords are obscuring your English.

Miata a chickmobile.

>chick mobile
>99% of drivers are men

>he things the FRShit is superior to a comfy e46.
>He thinks the BRZzzzz is more exciting than a 370z
>he would rather buy a poorly made, slow meme car rather than save up for a Cayman

>>chick mobile
% of miata drivers are gay men
Pottery

You can get a used Cayman S for the price of a new FRS

>100 more bhp
>same curb weight
>better engine placement
>more practical with 2 trunks
>nicer interior

> e46
I don't want a rusty bmw that's falling apart and costs 10k in maintenance every year

> 370z
Confirmed to be significantly less fun to drive than a toyobaru by every major auto reviewer

> gayman
Lol

Thanks for playing

Are you insecure or something? Or are you just 16?

...

>way less practical
>bitch to work on
>unreliable
>expensive parts
You could just add FI to the 86

>has no argument other can "LOL GAY"

You need to be 18 to post here, kiddos

>he drives a chick car and gets butthurt about it
roflmfao baka senpai did your bf fuck you in an NA desu???

THIS
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thank you. I wanted an 86 for a long while until I realized the Cayman is superior in every way.

But I have two other arguments, dumb faggot

cayman is also ugly af and considered by everyone to be a poorfag midlife crisis porsche for limp dicks and women

>way less practical
Boo hoo, you can't carry your legless children in the back in exchange for actual trunks
>bitch to work on
Confirmed for never having wrenched on cars, everything is easy to access
>unreliable
Porsche is second to Lexus in long term reliability
>expensive parts
Only if you willingly get cucked by stealerships

The only Porsche worth getting is a 911 or a 944 (if poorfag)

Any real car person knows that the Cayman is a proper driver's car gimped because it would be faster than the 911

>considered by everyone

If I owned a Cayman, the opinion of non Cayman owners would matter very little to me.
I'll just enjoy my 300 hp FMR with 9 speakers, comfy leather and crazy robot cup holder hand which folds out of the glove compartment.

I was in your position as well, but the Cayman just offered so much more value to me

New cars are just generally shit value, though I'd consider the FRS once they're readily available closer to $10-12k

But it is a bitch to work on
Damage control harder

And parts are expensive no matter where you get them unless it's noname aftermarket from chinkland

Retards spotted

There are extra steps involved, but it isn't all that harder

Sure changing the spark plugs requires you to jack up the back and take off the wheels first, but if you can't even do those 2 things why the hell are you even working on cars?

You can fold down the rear seat of the 86 to get hella space. Somehow I don't believe a mid engined car is easy to wrench on.

"Huur it would be better than the 911 if it had 9000 more horsepower than it!!!"

If it were truly a better platform porsche would use it as their gt3 car but no... they don't
Cayman fags just fuck right off with your bullshit, they always say this but can never ever offer anything that supports their claim that isn't a logical fallacy

> fmr

Exactly. If I could find a newish Toyobaru under 18k then my opinion would be very different. Until then, the car is way too expensive and it's worth paying a little more for a proper sports car.

How do you like the Cayman in the end? Any ragrets?

>18k
You can though. That's a pretty typical price.

My only regret is that I didn't get a Cayman but got a Boxster instead

Soft tops are pretty shit and the frame is fucked, so I got a hard top for it and plan on removing the ragtop entirely

Just go look up tutorials, it's pretty simple once you know how to access everything.
You can change the serpentine belt from inside the car by undoing a few 10mm hex bolts that hold down the rear panel, it's easier than a car with a transverse engine

The Cayman GT4 already outperforms all lower end 911s and is only really bested by the Turbo and GT3. Give it the GT3 engine and then you'll have something

This has been a thing for ages, back in the late 90s/ early 2000s RUF shoved a 911 engine in a Boxster and gave it an LSD and the car was faster the the 911s of the time

>front plate
Absolutelydisgusting.jpg

The cheapest miata doesn't even have an lsd. Have you ever bought parts for a new BMW? That shit is cray.

>implying a quality LSD is hard to swap in

>sports car
>Civic si, Focus ST, even Camaro
Ayy lmao

^ Literally the only reason to get a GT86

*tips fedora*

Ugly af, doesn't even match the body lines

Good chassis held back by a shit engine

>swap in
There's the problem.

>inb4 $500 and an afternoon

>implying an LSD is as hard to swap in as an engine

>inb4 $500 and an afternoon
But it literally is $500 and an afternoon

2 seconds is not sub second

To each his own

Veeky Forums hates because gud fun car. buy one OP

This tbqh

>hurr you can get a used car with better specs at that price
>hurr i'm gonna buy it used and when the price drops down to $1488

There's no used car market if no one buys new cars, dipshit.
>in before thanks for testdriving my car, cuck ;^)
You are the cuck here, going for leftovers

How's the bus by the by

>Redpill me on the GT86/BRZ/FR-S Veeky Forums

Tragic story of a potentially great car ruined by a shit engine. I probably would have bought one if it had something like a beams 3sg

If you put in nearly 100k in mods, you can supposedly have yourself a nice little track car

youtube.com/watch?v=u_f1e2a9K5s

ENGINE SWAP

so you get a car that's faster than 458 but still cheaper