Is WRC even relevant these days? Are these retards even trying, or is world rally dead?

What's stopping WRC from just lifting safety regs until shit's fun again?

yeah so it's down to the people to build cars without regulation, like how rally used to be.

liability.

>the driver can sue the team for injury, although all he does these days is hold on to the wheel.

Is it just impossible to have a racing series without having FIA stick their dick in it?

How to fix WRC
>kill World Rally Cars because they're just gay silhouette racing shit at this point, and arbitrarily gimped ones at that
>create new top dog category with Group B-style rules, though add a ~400-450hp restrictor to keep things somewhat in control and the safety babbies happy
>actually promote the fuck out of R4 and give manufacturers big incentives to make suitable cars for it
The viewers get to ogle at some truly exotic racers, the car scene gets cool ass hardware on the road once again and privateer teams can actually enter without having to splurge a metric assload of cash on dumb silhouette racers.

All that because of too much safety regulations, too much ecology involved. There's no point watching it if people don't crash or you can't hear engines roar.

I guess. But still, not seeing the big name engineers make the absolute best of the cars they can do is disappointing.

Sounds good. I would really like to see some top dogs like Loeb do Group B. He could at least earn the name of being the best driver, because right now, he's great but nowhere near the legendary level of Group B guys.

Anyway, we still have PPHC which seems to be what rally should strive to become.

It's dead. FIA killed it, and killed it again, and again.

>tfw no more Group B
>no more Group A
>no more homologation
>ywn own a limited run modern "street-legal" 4WD rally version of an econobox without A/C, power windows, etc. because that shit is just unnecessary weight

>Is WRC even relevant these days?

nope. slow shitbox cars and spectator culture is dead, but there isn't any TV coverage either

figure out a way so that the spectators can get close to the roads old-school style, without getting ran over by the cars, or get them the fuck out of there, put cameras there and make the cars fast and exciting group b style.

both would be the best but nowadays safety is too big a concern to have spectators close to the road with super fast cars

Carb is better for WOT.

fucking jealous
is it as good as I think it is when I masturbate to pictures of it on japanese auction websites?

>Port injection is somehow better than DI in some manner
Are you?

They're not.

They are

yeah it is. That's F1 you're talking about.

Group B was the best
Group A was okay, and the cars were sexy. Impreza, Evo, Delta, Celica, etc...

Now it's just your crappy everyday econobox yuro hatchback.

thesun.co.uk/archives/motorsport/619129/world-rally-series-blasted-as-shambles/

found the article
>inb4 it's a "the sun" """article"""

WRC is in a death spiral, and has been for years.

Seems like a lot of WRC drivers switched from rally cross to rally raid. A lot more WRC drivers at Dakar this year.

I T ' S C O M I N G

Isn't this their miata platform with an engine swap?

>wrc has become spec miata racing

Having direct injection allows them to have a higher compression engine, or run massive amounts of boost.

fia.com/news/new-regulations-coming-2017-world-rally-car

They're trying to improve things for 2017
>lighter, wider cars with more aero
>'bout 380hp
>center diffs are back

>citroen returns as a proper works team
>toyota returns

>new cars are already testing, drivers have reported them to be hectic as fuck. Plus wrc cars have been faster than group B cars for over a decade now

Let's wait and see how it turns out I guess

more hideous shitbox, yeay

>faster
If You tell me doing 30mph in a gutted tin box with no driver assist feels slower than doing 60 in a beefy shitbox with a tonne of safety bullshit then you're retarded

>More aero
How is this a good thing.

30 mph is faster than 60

>direct injection because muh ecology
This is the least problematic thing about rally you could mention.
At this point the only tangible difference between current WRC cars is their suspensions, and even then, how much really is different?
It's another case of regulations stifling innovation and while it may make competition tighter in terms of stage times, it means that all of the cars are virtually identical tube-frame-and carbon-fiber machines, all making 300hp.

It's a wonder anyone even tries in WRC these days.

RX is a slightly better motorsport, if only because crashing is part of the racing.

The funny part is that carbon fiber use is actually discouraged with arbitrary bullshit restrictions by the rules. Quoth the regulations
>The use of carbon and/or aramid fibre is authorised on condition that only one layer of fabric is used.
>The use of several layers of aramid fibre for the protections of the bodywork parts (side, floor, inner wheel arch) is authorised.

And the actual punchline is that this kind of arbitrary bullshit doesn't even remotely stop the manufacturers from making dumb silhouette racers anyway. Bring back proper homologation instead of this gay shit you candle sniffing fuck fences

how?

>half the posts itt are from americans who know absolutely nothing about the subject

but they used to run 12:1 cr and 3 bar of boost even with port injection

Why do you think Group B was called the F1 of rally?

Wether it's actually americans or not, but the amount of superficial knowledge and half-truths is always through the roof in rally threads, or rather motorsprt threads in general

>Are you?
Yes it is you fucking moron. At least your engine can run well without getting gunk in your fucking cylinders.

>1.6L engines
You can't be serious now.

Looks like they're making those into regular race cars. Which means ZERO jumps and those """"rallies"""" are all going to be on a perfectly even surface or the aero breaks.

So? F1 had 1.sum litre 1000hp engines

What's funny is the sounds like most of you don't actually watch the sport.

how would you even watch it nowadays, theres zero exposure

watching on location is torture because the cars are unentertaining shitboxes

Well this thing called the internet, there's an app, you can get channels on whatever TV provider you have

Also you faggots pissing and moaning about 1.6 litres, when Kris Meeke just had the fastest ever average speed through Ouninpohja. Which is the fastest rally in the championship.

Also OP, Skoda just made a return. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Nissan direct Mitsubishi back into the sport since they already have a rally spec mirage.

They're not.
>muh atomization hurr
When fuel is injected from an orifice at 100 bar, it's fucking atomized.

Gunk in DI engines is caused by EGR. Routing exhaust through the intake valve without gasoline to act as a solvent causes shit to collect on the intake valve.

Tell me, do you really think WRC cars have EGR? Do you really think it's impossible to circumvent EGR on a street car? Jesus Christ you're an idiot.

>mitsubishi gone
The 3rd party Mirage R5's are doing very well. A Ralliart team could very well eventually make a return.
>toyota gone (minus the shitty new yaris they wanna introduce for next season)
Confirmed for not seeing a single video of how fire that car is
>subaru gone
Because they don't make any cars with a 1.6l.
>suzuki gone
Because Suzuki is virtually dead as a car company
>lancia doesn't even compete
Because Fiat killed them
>skoda gone and the only VAG competing is VW Polo now
Skoda has been competing in R5 and the old S2000 class for years with the Fabia platform. SEAT also brought out a new Ibiza in WRX this year, so a WRC car could soon follow
>1.6L because muh downsizing
As much as I'd like to see it go back to 2.0's, most manufacturers now-adays produce 1.6's. It's the safest bet for keeping current manufacturers and leaving the door open for others
>direct injection because muh ecology
The alternative?
>heavy weight and no power because muh safety
Group A cars were turning faster stage times than the double-power Group B cars that preceded them. Modern WRC cars are even faster. Kris Meeke's run of Finland this year in a DS3 WRC was the single fastest average speed of any rally in history.

>what's a non-liabilty contract
>agreeing to the fact that only you hold your life in your hands, and any occupancy-related injury or death is solely on you
>we'll help cover medical costs, but only if you can drive afterwards

Why is this not a thing

Group A was objectively the best, it gave us some awesome road cars and had the most competition

FYI even if the baseline car models were japanese, the "manufacturer" teams that rally prepped them were yuropean (Prodrive, Ralliart, TTE, ...)

The fact that some courses were nothing but a narrow maze of spectators was part of the appeal of group B, just after the cars themselves.

feel free to grace us with your european enlightenment