Just got my first speeding ticket

How do you even win these cases? You have no evidence that you weren't going 53 and the police probably have some gay report that can be treated as evidence, and judges tend to believe in police over ordinary drivers.

>already lost the will to live

holy shit, that's all it took? what a pussy

boo fucking hoo $200 is nothing. my fucking speeding fine was $1,500 fucking dollars.

because lawyers, judges, and cops like making things easy on themselves, especially for first time convictions, but just in general. lawyer shows up, asks the judge how is day is, judge offers a lower sentence (e.g. the stop sign thing ["ignoring traffic device"]), lawyer accepts the plea bargain on my behalf and I plea guilty to that) and then officer scratch-n-sniff doesn't have to show up to court and the whole nine yards.

That's interesting.
Where I live, the judge will simply give the first time offender the lowest possible fine, but will retain justice. If you were going 15 over, you will still get convicted of going 15 over.

that's how it works in my town if you show up without a lawyer

God bless capitalism.

I said it wasnt just the money. i'm no longer invincible. every time i fast im gonna be looking over my shoulders, i just want to go back to driving at a speed i feel safe going, not some arbitrary number

this happens to everyone lol just get a radar detector unlike us ausfags who arent even allowed to have em

WHAT? 90 in a 60 and u only got $200? u should be thanking the fucking lord cunt, I got a $440 fine in cuckstralia for holding my phone as a gps because my suction cup kept falling off

>justice system
>capitalism
wut

Get a real GPS m8 and if you don't have a good angle with the windscreen then tape/velcro a small mirror to a flat surface.

You deserved the fine.

i have the same feel from a 75 in a 45. i thought it was a 60 and the state trooper gave me a 59 in a 45 cuz it was my first ticket. it was still $200 because Florida is bullshit

where the fuck do you live?

Lol, I did 63 in a 35, I got a ticket for it. It sure helps if your parents know the pd dispatcher and the assistant prosecutor, walked away with an unsafe vehicle affidavit and down $255 in court costs, nothing on my record though.

Did 52 in a 35, played dumb got off with a written warning. Nothing on my record, lol.

You'll get over your paranoia, it just takes time.

Or be me and get pulled over almost a dozen times for vehichle lights. At that point you'll stop giving any fucks and know how the game is played.

Washingtonreich

The fact that you can buy your way out of a simple case.
I understand why a lawyer is needed in complex serious cases, but you shouldn't need to hire a lawyer so he can say "good day" to a judge and that's it.

3 speeding tickets.
1 from being pulled over
2 from cams.

Each 15 over. $150 each. FOH.

Get radar. Use Waze. Radars pay for themselves after the first ticket. Also make sure the state you are in allow radars. I also got pulled over in Virgina because the cop literally creeped up next to me and saw my red blinking lights and pulled me over. 30% tints not enough.

>been pulled over for speeding twice
>now just buzz around at 5 over
>fast enough to satisfy most tailgaters but slow enough to not catch bolis attention
I've been pulled over once since I started, but that was more because of my flippy license plate

>get a real gps for hundreds of dollars when google maps is free

is there something wrong with your peanut brain

There are a lot of things that judges and lawyers do that make me uncomfortable

I've been driving since i was 12
Have to be 17 to get a lisence here
At 15 i bought an eclipse gs-t and loaded it with fake plates i moulded and casted, a radar detector, laser jammer, and a cop spec scanner.
Ive learned a few things over the years-

1. You cant outrun radio so outsmart it
2. If they catch a whiff of your plates and they are either fake or stolen, your car will gain heat extremely fast
3. If you have a stock civic/corolla/any shitbox with less than 150hp, you're running on luck
4. If you're cocky and think that you are a better driver than a cop, you are fucking dumb. Cops go through months of training for pursuit and ones who are experienced know how to take a 3 tonne tahoe around a corner or a 2 ton ford.
5. Invest in some decent tires and strutbars if you dont have any. Sliding around a corner will do a number on your head during a cop chase with all the adrenaline pumping.
6. Performance mods are really only required for slow pieces of shit. I.e. the 210 from my eclipse was plenty. Didnt even touch the motor until 2011

It comes down to the law trying to outsmart you, so you have to out-outsmart them. Not easy outsmarting cameras, plate grabbers, and radios, and then being safe at the same time. Make sure you change something on your car every time you get in a chase. Wheels& ride height, quiet the exhaust&30% tints, dip the car, etc. Enough that an average person would think its a different car.

>Invest in some decent tires and strutbars if you dont have any.
First of all, are you seriously talking about what I think you are talking about? You aren't Drive dude Ryan Gosling.

Second of all, LMAO

Third of all, if you want to go fast and you are on a budget, take stuff out - IT'S FREE. Don't invest in $200 strut bars when you can get lightweight wheels and go a lot faster.
-take the spare tire out (50lbs)
-take trunk liner out (10lbs)
-take all the interior shit out (glovebox, waterbottles, all your dragonforce casettes), rear seats (~50lbs)
-buy some small, used wheels for $500 (save about 200lbs static)

BAM you can turn faster and brake quicker.

If you are literally trying to outrun the cops (stupid as hell) or just play stupid ("I didn't see your lights until flying into my driveway officer"), the last thing you want are straight pipes and precat deletes so they'll hear you for miles and just follow the sound of your obnoxiousness

>Cops go through months of training for pursuit and ones who are experienced know how to take a 3 tonne tahoe around a corner or a 2 ton ford.
We have an officer that does joins in for track days. He drives a slightly modified p71 around the track. I'll list what I remember.
>Sway bars
>Control arms
>Springs
>Tires & Wheels
>T5 swap and a few minor engine modifications

When he brought a few of his police friends for a track day I couldn't believe how poorly they did.

A p71 is easy to handle. Gary's is even easier. You just point and it'll go.

The fuzz he brought to the track were 15-25 seconds slower, depending on the driver. The only hairpin on the track is where they were falling behind. Constantly braking way early and always late on the throttle.

I imagine they weren't beating on his car and the t5 messed with their comfort, but they were by no means experienced.

Only one of his friends actually did a decent job on the track. He wasn't a local cop. Believe he transferred from some hick town.

There's a big difference between the track and a pursuit though.

Often it's a case of them making up for their poorer handling/technique with road knowledge.

Speed cameras?
Redpill me

Do your heart, your wallet and society a favor and don't drive fast where you might get caught. There are traffic laws and they are enforced there is no way around that when you're driving on public roads. Just don't break them and save yourself the worry.

You'll grow out of it.

And on a track you dont have a whole police force at the touch of a button.
And im sure many cops arent amazing drivers but they patrol those roads almost every day and are probably better than juan in his civic.
But still in general, its always safest to bet that the cop is a better driver than you and rely on the 10-20-60 rule
10 seconds the cop calls your car in
20 seconds youre on the scanner
40-60 seconds youll see another cop.

Turn a few times and hide in someones driveway

>liability
Buahahahaha
>Not having full coverage
>Get cucked m8

What do you expect for $75?

Underage b8

I have a GPS and I've been trying to get rid of it for the longest and I can't find anybody who wants to buy it

live in a normal place

I got a 57 in a 25 and only had to pay $200 plus not reported on my record or insurance

>just pay me the fine and i wont report this
bruh that cop is sleazy af

You think thats bad? I lost 60k when i got pulled over, im sure someone here has read my story I posted months ago.

>Late to drug deal
>Speeding on the expressway, see cop but dont care cause im going so fast he wont catch up
>Get off and do deal
>Driving back on the expressway and get pulled over
>Cop tells me a car matching my cars description was speeding before
>Cops smells the weed that was in my car
>Finds 60K in my trunk and takes it because i need to prove how I got the money to get it back otherwise the state keeps it

At least I didnt have drugs in the car but fuck pigs

If you pull into someone's driveway or otherwise hide your car, what do you do next? How long should you wait before leaving?

Well if the cop drives past you, head in the opposite direction as soon as he is out of sight. Otherwise sit there for like an hour and hope the owner of the house doesnt come out. If they do just be honest and tell them you are hiding from the cops

"how you get this money boy?"
work, trust fund, investments, loans, etc

on my way to

buy a car off CL, home construction, open a business, pay someone back, etc

"Is it illegal to drive with cash in the car officer?"

either way this story is fake

this didn't happen

>why you lying, why you always lying

Despite the fact I don't believe his story, an officer can confiscate property willy nilly if they so much as suspect it may have been related to something illegal.

The law was passed years ago to make speedy arrests of true drug lords. Unfortunately for you and me, an officer could confiscate $500 if he felt it was used for drugs. Hell, they could take your house & car if they wanted.

Don't even need evidence, just suspicion.

why are millenials such pussies..

>gets a speeding ticket
>its a major event in his life

>"I don't care, I'll just give the bill to my mom!"
-You

And I bet for you, having sex for the first time will be a major event in your life.

It's actually really hard to get that money back, you have to have hard, legal, evidence that you earned that money in a legal way and even then you have to go through months of trials and thousands of dollars in legal fees before you will see that money again. It's a really fucked up process and is why you should either never carry large amounts of cash, or hide it really well.

here are some of my tips for avoiding tickets (i'm 19 so I only have 3 years experience, but I have never gotten a ticket)
cars: your car is your first line of defense, It can make or break how you look to the law
>the most inconspicuous the better, there is a reason I traded my red 1966 V-8 mustang for a black 2003 TDI golf, cops really do base their ticket off of the car you own.
>radar if you can afford it and If it's legal in your state
>dash cam with gps speed tracking for legal evidence if you ever get wrongly accused
>stickers=attention, make your car as forgetful as possible
>stay away from loud exhaust or get a catback system that you can switch the exhaust from muffler to straight pipe if you can
>make It as legal as possible, so throw on a front plate and keep your lights and plates as clean as possible
>tint is a very good excuse for a cop to pull you over

technique: being alert can greatly improve your chances of spotting a cop before it's too late
>never go 10 over on a city street
>pay attention to where police usually hide out and slow down where they usually wait
>memorize what model and livery your local station has and watch out for that model
>clutch in when you see a cop
>only go full speed on a road you are comfortable has no cops
>just pay attention to the sides of the roads

after the fact: so you've been pulled over, what now? you can get out of a lot of tickets with the right attitude and a clean record (i've personally gotten out of two this way)
>it's always a plus being white
>pull over immediately
>put your hands on the wheel and wait for him to come to you
>don't try to get your registration and license out until he tells you to because you don't want to look like you are messing with your glove box or pockets to get a gun
>announce whatever you are doing and do it slowly
>"yes sir/mam" "no sir/mam"
>record it if you can (but watch out for local bugging laws)
>be submissive but don't forget your rights
>be cool, calm, and collected

>90 in a 60
wew

Good advice.

Use Waze on your smartphone and get a convenient holder so it stays in your field of view.

Don't speed because you don't need to. Drive efficiently and route wisely.

Youre lucky you arent in switzerland. My friend got fined 1500 (i think), lost his licence, had to visit psychiatry, had to sell his car. Lost of 3k for driving 118km/h in 80 km/h forest. Has to redo whole driving test after 1 year, another cost of 1k.

You'll quickly learn the hard way it doesn't matter how you treat the officer.

All it takes is for one power tripping prick to ruin your view on the 5-0.

You'll understand the day you have your personal belongings destroyed because he claims he smells marijuana, even when you've never smoked or carried in your car.
>And then he isn't even responsible because it was a legal search
>So your $2k laptop is broken and you have to pay for it.

Fuck you Tom D with the Douglasville Police Department. Hope someone violently rapes your wife and kids and then murders them all in front of you.

Fuck you.

I got ticket for 90 in a 65 in New York. It's not that bad. I went to court with no lawyer and got them to work it down from a ~$300 fine with 6 points on my license to $193 and 3 points. I don't believe it was reported to my insurance since it was out of state and New York doesn't report to Connecticut (but sometimes out of state violations will be reported to your state of residence so do your research). My points have long since expired since I got that ticket four or five years ago.

It sucks but they could have hit you with a higher fine or reckless driving. Just go to court say you were stupid and apologize and take whatever plea deal they offer you. Regardless of whether you agree with the law or not you broke it and you will have to pay something. Just take responsibility for it and move on.

Also, consider investing in a radar detector, learn how it works, and learn its limitations. It will get you out of a lot of potential tickets. Depending on where you live you might want to consider LIDAR jammers too but these are expensive. They're very effective but really only worthwhile if you live in an area where LIDAR is used heavily and you absolutely insist on speeding. Just remember to never jam-to-gun. You'll create problems for yourself and the rest of the jammer community. Check RDF to see what radar or LIDAR is run in your state/county.

Great advice. Im in my mid 20s. All true.

>type of car you drive
101% true. So many of my buds get pulled over for driving racecars. They are a sore thumb.

>tints
Especially in most states where anything less than 50% is illegal. They got their probable cause right there. I normally drop all my windows when pulled over just so the cop feels safe.

>10 over city street
The cams will get you. I promise you. Nevermind cops. You driving late at night and you see the bright flash in your rearview = there's your ticket. Also anytime driving through Virginia = cops are Nazis. They will get you for doing 5 over. The worst state to get caught speeding.

>pulled over
There's no way in hell you talking yourself out of a ticket. Don't even try. Just be polite so they don't ticket you for something else.

My top tier advice:
>Waze
>Radar
>Only speed in areas you know
>Be polite when you get pulled over

What does Veeky Forums recommend for radar?

Val 1 or Passport?

They are around $400-500. Any of them came down in price yet?

I think the Redline is still the king when it comes to sensitivity. V1 is still a solid performer though it is no longer "the best."

Escort has some newer models out like the passport 360 and Escort ix which are more plug and play detectors but they're expensive and still don't perform as well as the Redline and there are some new players that are promising too like Radenso and Uniden. I'd say basically go for either the Redline or V1.

>taking the same route back

you're an idiot

Actually completely reasonable depending on the 60

Newly constructed highways have the same speed-accomodating features as the fucking autobahn but america doesn't train drivers well enough to feel confident setting the speed limit higher than 60. In some states, it's against the law to set a higher limit than 60-75, and always will be even if the safety reasons are proven bullshit because higher speeds use more fuel

>BUT MUH ENVIRONMENT
>(coal plant burning in the background)

>How do I recover from this?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx40udwQvZI

For all intents and purposes, the law isn't broken if the cops don't find out

>police scanner
>radar detector
>scope out route then do a top speed run

:^)

I live in an area that only has redlight cameras (thank god) so I have that going for me

Kys

The US is cutting all federal funding for automated traffic enforcement. All of it.

Something about none of it working for more than revenue collection and things like longer yellow lights and sane speed limits set by traffic engineers instead of panicky moms being more effective

like I said, record your conversation when It's legal (I live in Texas, where you don't even need to tell the officer you are recording him) and know your rights, like the right to refuse a search or tell him that he is going to need to get a drug dog if he wants probably cause, then record the dogs reaction and that is definite proof that you don't have drugs in your car.

>drive like a normal human
For the love of god don't do that.. have you seen the normal aka average drivers on the roads? Fucking horrible, the lot of them.

I'm feeling you OP

An officer claiming to smell marijuana is probable cause. You can scream and shout all you want about not having a drug dog but it doesn't matter.

Air fresheners and bumper stickers are probable cause as well.
>Police state USA

>spare tire
>50 lbs
The fuck is your spare made of? Solid gold?

Yeah, my high school did a drug search a few years back and they pulled kids out of school to search their cars in the parking lot because having air fresheners was considered suspicious

I'm not telling you shit pig. I know my rights. Am I being detained?

Go to the fucking clerk of court and get it resolved before the SHTF

0 tickets but only in 4 years of driving.

Got pulled over for 63 in a 35 once, but got out of it because I pulled over as soon as I spotted the cop and didn't give him the time to put on his lights.

He came up to the window and told me he appreciated not putting up a hastle, so I got a written warning.

>90 in a 60

...

>had to visit psychiatry,
I lost it

Just let the Eurobeat carry you. You'll get back into momentum and forget it exists.
You can also try a light touge in morning hours (2AM)
For me I drive casually in day hours.(no hooning)
But driving during the day, and driving during the night is 2 different things.
I am able to feel at night, and driving at night gives me that.
So just let yourself go at some backroad at 2AM.

They can come trying. First things first, If someone comes barging down my doors I'm pulling out my handgun to protect whats mine state or no state, no one has the right to do that to me, and there will be casualties over shitty money/property and if thats worth their/mine life then let them do it. When someone fights back too many times they will realise that the toll on money is too high.
Thats how laws are fought for. With literal lives.

Mfw I got a warning for going 77in a 35

>remebered hearing about this law before i started driving but i never bothered to remember it because i wasn't driving

>i've driven with about $1000 at one point because i've hadn't made the time to go to the bank in months a few months ago
>i have $400 in my wallet right now
Jesus, thanks for reminding me that this law exists user I'm banking this shit first thing in the morning

>So just let yourself go at some backroad at 2AM.

Bad advice unless you live somewhere REALLY rural like Montana. I've seen cops lurk rural roads at night. Last night on NY-22 near Millerton, which is fairly rural, there was a NYSP trooper shooting Ka-band radar constant-on and just a minute ago on CT-8 was a CSP trooper shooting LIDAR. In both instances the cars were sitting in the brush on the side of the road with the lights off and were nearly impossible to see until you were within the kill zone.

These are just the most recent examples, I've seen cops doing traffic/speed enforcement all the time at night in both rural and urban areas from Pennsylvania to Maine. Moreso on weekends but occasionally during the week.

I'd argue you're less safe at night than during the day since it's harder to see a cop until you're right on top of them. A radar detector helps but it's not foolproof and you can still get nailed if the cop is running their radar in instant-on mode or is using LIDAR.

>I've lost my confidence. Now there's pigs around every corner, every car is an undercover cop, theres speed cameras on every intersection. How do I recover from this?
This is the psychological game they play. It's all meant to dis-empower and intimidate you. I personally havent left my house in months.

Damn user, you really showed them

Youre friend lucky he not here in Czechistan. My friend got fined 10,000, lost his license, lost his job, lost his wife, lost his car, lost his dog, had to sell his kidney, went to jail, got assrape and had his toenails ripped off.

I bought a Beltronics STi for $400, it's pretty much the same as the Redline (same company) and that left me the extra $100 to buy a SmartCord hardwire kit and a rearview mount

see, that's not bad, I was doing 135 in a 70 but didn't get caught sorry for those 200 bucks.

now you will learn to look for cops.

you wont get done for 10 over. i have friends who are cops and admit they only chase people doing 20kmph over.

be selective where you give it a burst.

but understand where you think a good place to speed, so have many other people and a cop might be waiting.

just don't be a reckless idiot and you should be fine. never had an issue since i got done for my first speeding ticket when i was 18, six years ago. still drive as fast.

kys desu baka

>200
lel

Kek did he write that with a crayon?

Also cost of maintenance and replacement. A road for heavy traffic doing 60 is much cheaper to build and maintain than one where you can do 100, irregardless of fuel consumption or safety.

The issue is the government can make a legal case against an inanimate object. It seems crazy but see:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

>Police sometimes ask stopped motorists to sign "roadside property waivers" which, unless signed, threaten criminal charges unless valuables are handed over; the waivers say, in effect, that victims will not contest the seizure in exchange for not being arrested.[6] If a passing motorist does not sign a waiver and it becomes recorded as a legal case, the case names are often unusual.[6] In a civil forfeiture case, the asset itself is listed as the "defendant".[12] For example, one case was titled State of Texas v. One Gold Crucifix,

worst thing is it's guilty until proven innocent
that's a seriously scary law, since a corrupt police force could potentially seize anything they want

... your premiums will still go up

This I got an improper right turn and 60 in a 40 and I got a lawyer and instead I received two jaywalking tickets, it still cost alot, but it's better to not have insurance go up for almost ever.