BMW Motorsport no longer races in LeMans or F1. BMW's motorsport program is represented by three cars, the M235i Racing, the M4 DTM, and the M6 GT3.
In the past BMW was cleaning house in LeMans, F1, the WTCC, the WRC, the FIA GT, ADAC GT, JGTC, etc.
What happened? Why has BMW, a brand built around motorsport, turned tail so hard? Is pic related to blame?
Kayden Williams
A lot of things are to blame. This BMW is no longer the BMW of yore
Charles Roberts
Who even cares Go wrench on your car
Luke Diaz
Because muh racing heritage no longer works for BMW as a marketing strategy so they no longer need to invest in motorsport.
Adrian Edwards
Because
Brody Ward
Well their cars are certainly no longer performance oriented
Xavier Rivera
Pretty much. I don't know if it was the accountants that killed it or what, but the whole Motorsport and M divisions are shadows of their former selves.
It's particularly sad to me seeing what's happened to the M road cars. There used to be a real sense that they were something special, like there was this bastion of track junkies within BMW slipping crazy performance cars out the back door and into dealerships. Now they just feel like a trim level.
Sebastian Taylor
>primarily make saloon cars >only compete in saloon car racing Crazy
Josiah Cox
They are a trim level.
Check out the M335i and M Sport lines.
AMG is in the same boat with their "AMG Sport" line of cars.
Easton Stewart
2 and 6 series are saloons are they???
Joseph Robinson
Oh yeah, that goes without saying, but I was talking about the "real" M cars.
I really need to find somebody who will let me drive their M2, so I can see if BMW at least has a bit of soul left. It's sure as hell not there in the M3 and M4. (And unlike most people who talk about them on Veeky Forums, I actually have a ton of experience with M cars, having worked until last year for an M specialty shop.)
Jose Ward
"M sport" has been a trim level for decades.
Liam Hughes
It's 2016, Motorsport is irrelevant now
Angel Flores
What are you talking about. They are still slower than corollas.
Christian Nguyen
go on - post your cherrypicked images, I know you want to.
Robert Bailey
I've tried one for about 15-20 minutes and I though it was pretty fucking neato. Then again, my experience with cars in general is kinda limited, and to M cars the E39 M5.
So, I've not had too much to compare it with but I liked it a lot
Zachary Smith
>no naturally aspirated engines >fake engine sound through speakers to hide shitty exhaust notes >pigfat SUVs >FWD shitboxes >no dipsticks >M-cars offer 1% more performance over American pony cars for 200% the price >no steering feel >bad shifters >naming convention cast aside >halo car is a 3 cylinder hybrid
BMW is fucking garbage, let's be honest with our selves.
Jace Kelly
I havent been feeling well lately. Doctor has me on meds. Meds make me more sicks. Ill try harder next time. Not right now though
Ian Gomez
>Have Twitch stream on in the background, he's ironically playing "In the Arms of an Angel" >Read this post
I think I'm about to cry over a car company's sad decline
Sebastian Mitchell
>7 series is all about trendy gadgets and Apple tier design with sporty suspension to appeal to yuppies Why the fuck would you do this to your luxury apex model?
Jack Nguyen
We now live in a world in which Ford and Hyundai are good, and BMW and Toyota are shit.
What the fuck happened?
John Ortiz
BMW are not stupid, irregardless of what we think. They will make the cars appealing to people who they think wants to buy it
People are more interested in green cars than sports cars. The hybrid i8 as a halo car makes sense. Maybe not to us, but to most, it does
Alexander Ward
>irregardless
Angel Jackson
>BMW are not stupid Learn grammar please
Joseph Murphy
Sadly, I'm afraid you have a point.
Even when it comes to performance, people these days seem to only care about numbers on paper and not what a car is actually like to drive. Even "enthusiasts" do it, just look at the endless benchracing on Veeky Forums.
Carson Torres
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand what you are implying. Missed the spelling?
Eli Watson
>The hybrid i8 as a halo car makes sense. Maybe not to us, but to most, it does It does to me, after all the 918, P1 and laferrari are all hybrids. Veeky Forums just likes to hate on hybrids blindly. That said, the i8 just isn't that good
Tyler Gray
Oh God. I'm fine with Ford having a period in the light but the Koreans? >notlikethis.jpeg
Jayden Gray
Its not a word. And even if you used the actual word (regardless) you would have used it incorrectly.
Hunter Bell
>I don't understand how modern motorsports works the post
Jose Rogers
>the new 7 series is the first proper S class competitor >M4 GTS is the first proper Porsche GT3/GT3RS competitor >X5M/X6M fastest SUV/Crossover on the market today >3 and 5 series still the top selling cars in class Their new turbo engines do sound like shit though
Jose Torres
>>M4 GTS is the first proper Porsche GT3/GT3RS competitor
Ehh, I'd say that would be the CSL
Carter Howard
sounds like they're more obsessed with what others are doing rather than being a distinctive and authentic manufacturer. i8 excepted
Jeremiah Thomas
The GTS may compete in intent with the GT3, but I find it hard to believe that it compares in driving dynamics. I haven't driven a GTS but I've driven the 991 GT3, the normal 991, and the F8x Ms, and I just don't see how you could turn the M4 into something comparable to the GT3.
Not that I'm a huge fan of the 991 GT3 either, though, I prefer even a 997 C2S in the real world. (Including trackdays.)
Adrian Wilson
Motortrend fucking blasted the 7-series in the 750 vs S-Class competition. It didn't really do anything better.
The M4 GTS has poor performance for its price tag, and is useless as anything other than a track car.
Sebastian Walker
>motortrend MT hates any BMW made since 2005, dunno who takes them seriously anymore Also M760i>S65
Jose Powell
>the M760 is BMWs fastest accelerating car
Wyatt Gray
Its not their fault BMW has gotten terrible over the last decade. Bad cars deserve to be shit on. For what its worth, they genuinely like the M2.
Charles Peterson
Lmfao the new 7 is nowhere near to competing with the S, retard
Camden Hall
I blame the market. People don't really give a shit about how their car's performance or handling. They give a shit about how it looks, in and out, and what badge its wearing. That's why the 320i, CLA 250, A3, and so on are some of the best selling in their respective lineups - BMW badge, but could be beaten by a V6 Accord by a half-competent driver.
Austin Kelly
>looks The CLA looks like it rubbing its ass on the carpet, badge>looks