Were people more barbaric in earlier times than now? As in, do you think people would still rape, kill babies, torture people if they could get away with it. If so do you think its because people are "better educated" now?
Were people more barbaric in earlier times than now? As in, do you think people would still rape, kill babies...
Robert Brooks
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Joseph Barnes
Back then, barbarians survived. Nowadays you don't need to be a barbarian to survive.
Charles Powell
>implying all of these cuck genes didnt come from somewhere.
Asher Ortiz
> because people are "better educated" now
More like because they got easier access to the cheap entertainment. It is way easy to watch an another porn video than trying to rape someone, why bother with torture if you can troll anons, or shit on youtube comments.
Asher Lee
Someone in Serbia want to take the cake and planned the bosnian genocide.
Leo Barnes
Are you saying that people used to rape and do other horrible stuff because they were bored?
Jaxon Clark
>If so do you think its because people are "better educated" now?
no just that most people are pretty personally removed from most political violence now-a-days...most of the more "barbaric" actors often had a huge personal stake in the violence they committed and its outcome.
Oliver Kelly
>implying the average mongol soldier had any personal stake in killing/raping/disemboweling a 3 year old
Isaac Sanders
Mongols are a great example of the principal. They were at their most violent when it came to the Khitai, their traditional rivals. Also much of their other violence came from a desire to scare other enemies into surrendering.
eat a 3 year in this town so the next town surrenders and you don't get killed.
Nicholas Williams
Not that user, but people who have that "thirst for adventure" but aren't smart or sane enough to lead or harness it for a greater purpose seem like the ones most likely to indulge in extreme violence or cheap power games like rape. The worst of them are the ones that still go out and engage in war crimes and acts of terror. I imagine that there are plenty of people on Veeky Forums or other places that would actually commit atrocities if given the chance. In western societies they are made complacent and have to get out whatever is left of those urges on Kazakh beastfucking boards like this one
Aiden Hughes
Nice meme.
Ian Torres
People are not born evil, rather it is society that corrupts.
T.locke
Zachary Wilson
Nice meme.
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Angel Brown
That shit happened in Yugoslavia, it's happening in Iraq & Syria, and it's happened in modern Africa too many times to list.
Isaiah Nelson
This right here.
Out on the sharp end of things, it's not civilized at all. What people enjoy in the western world is an artificial bubble created by our willingness to do terrible violence to those who would invade and disrupt that artificial peace.
Aaron Miller
No. There is nothing to indicate that people are any less barbaric. Furnished with the circumstances human barbarity manifests itself.
Our complex social ordering and technology is just a gloss.
The danger comes when we kid ourselves that the external manifestations of progress are reflective of more civilized beings within.
Ethan Murphy
In Europe? Definitely
For most of human history, enforcing laws among the "rabble" was not much of a concern for the ruling class, and even when it was, they didn't have the method of detection that we do now.
If someone murdered someone else, either nothing would be done, or they'd simply grab whoever they saw at the scene and blame him.
Nowadays criminals are more likely to be caught and jailed (or executed), thus removing whatever genes are responsible for their barbarity and/or acting as a deterrent for other would-be criminals.
As for the "better educated" theory, i believe this is false. People in the past were simply less intelligent down to a genetic level, not to mention the lack of health care and the rampant FAS.
Again this is purely aimed towards Europe, since a lot of Africa, The ME, Asia and SA are still infested with barbaric behaviour
Austin Wood
Its pure fallacy to think we cant revert back to barbarism. In fact its impressed on the young now so much not to be aggresive (in the west) that it proves its still with us, if only in an embered state,
Watch thisd space though. You better hope theres no serious collapse in your lifetime because If there was we'd probably see the A to Z of most deplorable atrocities simply because of the fact you mentioned:better educated. In other words, all the shit created in fantasy and reality that we consume will be used by these new barbarians.
Good example is ISIS. there a prime example of being creative with your monstrous behaviour.
You can bet one of those fuckers studied history to make mass exections that we've seen them do. There doing it for publicity too. Imagine if you got a modern leader who just liked going it and with large funds availble.
Theres always an evolution of violence but sometimes 'the oldies are still the best' as they say.
Ethan Stewart
BRUTALITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN PREVALENT ALL OVER THE WORLD, IN ALL ERAS; WHAT CHANGES IS THE HONESTY OF THE BARBARIANS REGARDING THEIR BRUTALITY.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS MORE BRUTALITY, AND LESS HONESTY REGARDING IT, THAN EVER BEFORE.
Lucas Wilson
Indus valley civilization was possibly the earliest urbanized culture with little or no evidence of violence.
Historians speculated that they followed some form of Jainism. In fact a sort of proto-hindu shiva worship is speculated to have arisen from the dravidians rather than the Indus valley region of India.
And other than city walls which may have just been to keep out wild animals / flood water, little evidence of weaponry or armor was found across hundreds of sites.
it stayed that way until some Northerners decided to start some shit
Aaron Stewart
Leave the entire planet without electricity for just a few hours and watch it being instantly plunged in flames.
People today are more barbaric than you think, they're just distracted by stupid shit.
Christopher Perry
>Imagine if you got a modern leader who just liked going it and with large funds availble.
heh... who w..would do such a thing
Cameron Jones
"Barbarism" is just what self important people want to deride survival as. Take away supermarkets and make people have to grow or barter for their own food from people who grew it, and you'll see a lot more "barbaric" acts happening all over. We're "civilized" because you can press 10 buttons and have an extra large triple meat lovers pizza delivered to your door in 30 minutes or less, now would you like extra cheese with that you fat fucking animal?
Joseph Torres
The Nazis were actully systamatic and organized to give credit where its due.
Now if yu mean near the end of the war/the eastern front id agree with you more. In my mind barbarism requires orgies of unabashed violence, open for all the world to see as you raze a town, rape the women and children and slaughter the men of fighting age.
This type of thing was more common with the soviets when they were taking back the lands.
The Nazis were less...emotional? that seems the right word for it. still massacres obviously but diffrent style from pure massacres of old.
Hell, the americans did better capturing the old-timey sort of massacre when they were in vietnam. Mass medias shown you that aspect i bet.
Also OP, heres a simpler answer to your question from these kind anons.
Jacob Davis
People are removed from violence today.
Case in point: people who are fine eating meat have a panic attack when they see livestock getting slaughtered.
Jayden Reed
>Were people more barbaric in earlier times than now?
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Anthony Ross
I know methheads and alcoholics who commit violence for basically this reason. Boredom isn't just boredom, it makes you reflect on how shit your life is. Escapism nulls it.
Jonathan Stewart
I dont think methheads or alcholics reflect on how shit their life is in boredom.
Andrew Rogers
>IISIS
You fucked up
Gabriel Hall
>Were people more barbaric in earlier times than now?
more of them were manlets so yes
NEVER trust a manlet
Gavin Rodriguez
the barbarians were the tall lanky mother-fuckers...
Owen Thompson
Drowning and burning people alive pales to shit like scaphism and death of a thousand cuts
Adrian Jones
What font is that?
Jace Cruz
Georgia I think...
Jeremiah Allen
A crossing point between abstract description and real world description for a general advice to mitigate this dynamic seems to be:
-liberation of one group would ideally happen only with minimal antiliberation of other groups
-antiliberation of others would ideally be compensated.
As far as this is rejected or ignored, mutually ignorant liberation will likely lead again to the recurring usual mutual antiliberation, up to a global scale.
related thread: >
Levi Wood
In our day, some primitive savages (A.K.A. nignogs, see the link) hold a very interesting belief. The belief is that one has to be sacrificed in order for the tribe to be freed of whatever problem it has. René Girard has branded this belief as ''scapegoat culture'', and chances are that people sincerly believed this throughout history. What's left are legal instances and war culture. In the end, people are not really different today than they were thousands of years ago.