The Fiata handles better than the Miata

If you beat the Miata you lose

Single cam
Fiata fags BTFO

so the miata's problem is the same every single outlet said when it came out? it body rolls way too fucking much
Gee no wonder Fiat with a stiffer suspension tune and less body roll managed to beat it

>Gay joke in modern media

Why is that so refreshing?

Still waiting for a 2L turbo with 250ish horse

You mean Fiat's innovative and groundbreaking MultiAir™ electro-hydraulic valve actuation, that completely excludes a cam belt/chain and manages the air intake electronically?

Just get one and swap its engine with something bigger and with a turbo

Ill stop fucking around for this one. Uh, yeah the fiata was a hundredth faster, big deal. Thats nothing. One test the fiata could run the hundredth faster, the other the Miata. Id rather have the Miata for the exhaust note and more playful qualities while loosing virtually nothing in lap time.
>Lets actually try and talk about this like people

Move away cucks, its my time to benchrace now

>let put the same shitty tires in the miata as we have in the fiata

this comparison literally goes into the trash, its not the Miata fault Fiatcucks are too busy prepping a bull instead of fitting good tires

also

>22psi
>less than 200 hp

fucking kek 22 fucking pounds per square inch and less than 200 horses, fiat engines are literal fucking garbage

How much are they paying to shill out for them? Enough to buy that Yaris you've been dreaming of?

>Abarth

literally fucking garbage tier compared to the cup miata

>Buy a brand new car
>Swap the engine

Im not rich user

>Thats nothing. One test the fiata could run the hundredth faster, the other the Miata.
lol, that's quite obvious, isn't it?
Thing is, they compared the top of the line MX-5 to the regular 124. When it should be the Abarth 124 vs the 2L MX-5.
That would be a fair comparison.

>what are emissions
At least think a bit before shitposting.

>Yaris
ew, why would you say such a thing?

>cup miata
Literally garbage tier compared to the Rally 124.
>300hp

several modern cars do not run fucking 22 psi just to make cuck-tier power

so much for muh multi-ari faggotry

>rally
rally cars are actually slower than track cars

also

>fiat literally so cucked they have to use a mazda platform

mazda wins no matter how hard you control the damage

>Buying the MX-5 for outright speed.

You have really missed the fucking point.

Because you're a closet homosexual

Yeah, that isnt what they matched up though. Id like to see that comparison, not big on euro cars in general, dont know what the 124 abarth is about, or what its capable of.

>Because you're a closet homosexual

But user, i'm openly gay and got married recently. I not a crazy person though and understand what is being said when someone calls things gay.

>choosing the car with trans issues

Holy shit I haven't seen you in a while. Time to leave this board again

>>>/autoib/
triggered gm fangirls go back to your safe space

>chosing the car with all the issues

>several modern cars do not run fucking 22 psi just to make cuck-tier power
It's called emissions, you dip.
People run 250hp maps on that same 1.4 block with upgraded headers and fmic.

>rally cars are actually slower than track cars
It's called gear ratios, silly.

>fiat literally so cucked they have to use a mazda platform
Why wouldn't they? It's cheaper that way and why not use a good platform and actually design it properly and get an engine that doesn't knock if you look at it wrong?
lmao

>dont know what the 124 abarth is about, or what its capable of
30hp more (euro version) and more torks, plus better suspension.
But then again, the american version of the regular 124 has 165hp which is only 5hp more than the 2L MX-5.
But again, I believe the better suspension on the Abarth would make quite a difference in that comparison.

I never left, dumbass. The name "Alphonse" was just banned. I've been shitposting non stop for literally a year now.
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>Mazda is less reliable than Chebby
lmao

>can't even read
I never said you left, I said I haven't seen you in awhile.

posted the wrong image actually

>have to tune it to get power
lol, literally not even an argument, fact is its a shit-tier engine because it needs 22psi to make power

>It's called gear ratios, silly.
nope, try again

>get an engine that doesn't knock if you look at it wrong?
its a fucking Fiat

>Fiat less reliable than mazda and chebby

I really don't understand this list and really want to see the numbers used to generate it. Like how is Caddy and Buick that much higher than Chevy? Same engines and window regulators throughout GMs line. I wonder if it has to do with clientele. The top 5 brands on this list are old peoples cars, maybe they just don't rack up the milage as younger people.

>unironically this retarded
The last time I posted under this name was less than an hour ago.

You're retarded, kys.
my sides

>Fix It Again Tony

>>lol, literally not even an argument, fact is its a shit-tier engine because it needs 22psi to make power
>he doesn't understand the principles of how an engine is tuned
Pls stop posting. It's embarrassing.

>>nope, try again
>being this retarded

>>its a fucking Fiat
>no arguments
knock knock knock
lmao

>>Fiat less reliable than mazda and chebby
>american dependability "studies"
>where a broken cup holder is considered an issue as big as a piston being ejected out of your engine
tiptop geg

Trips speak. Yeah better suspension generally translates to better times, but people will say that oh, the Miata is about the FUN, therefore exempt from loosing this against the fiat. Be prepped for that. And on emissions, yeah it may run decent numbers for emissions and power, but the 124's engine has a good bit of turbo lag and an odd power curve. Im sorta the type who wants an engine with a smooth curve with no real surprises

LMFAO

>proven wrong
>no! it's not true!
rotflmao

You gotta remap it to get that turbo lag out. It's the same with diesels nowadays.
Unfortunately you can't manage to get through emissions without that lag pit.

>b-but the transmission
as opposed to literally ALL the issues? kek

>being this retarded
I can see you are faggot

>no arguments
>american dependability "studies"
stay mad at facts cuckhold

Fiat is literally fucking shit-tier in reliability, you csn ACTUALLY say Fiat is fucking shit and you are NOT lying

there is SHIT more reliable than Fiat and I am NOT making this shit up

...

>b-b-b-but muh abarth
>can't beat a fiesta
Rotflmao

>even the fucking cuck owners know it is fucking garbage
fiat500owners.com/forum/50-mechanical-issues-owner-questions/9785-fiat-reliable-car.html

>No

>It's not reliable or well built (particularly the interior) but God is it good fun!

KEK

BTFO

Ford saves the day again

BTFOOO

You can't win Alphonse. Just deal with it.
No matter how many stale maymays you post.

>from the same people that consider Mercs and BMWs unreliable
Weak bait.

>you can't win
Just like fiat, kek btfo

how is it that they don't look nearly as gay as the miata?

Yeah. Sucks. Idk what the consensus is on Veeky Forums - this is the first thread ive posted in, and havent lurked much - on standards for emissions and safety on cars, too strict or not strict enough?

time.com/money/4103450/new-car-reliability-consumer-reports/

>“Had to be towed five times,” said another frustrated Fiat owner.

KEKKKKKK

FUCKING BTFO!!!!

Is fiat even trying?

Way too strict, I think.
That's why some manufacturers have been caught cheating their way in order to pass emissions.

Safety is always welcome (except some Veeky Forumstists that cry about muh thick A pillars).

>cuck isn't even attempting to defend the abysmal performance of fiat
That's it, I broke mjet again.

Speaking of broke it had to be towed 5 times

Rotflmao

No recovery possible

>Fiat has LITERALLY never beaten Ford at LeMans or Formula 1

lmao

fucking BTFO

>top of the line MX-5
it still has an open diff
it was the GT not the Club

Absolutely BTFO

Looks like mjet stopped posting due to anger and is busy prepping the bull

>more stale bait
zzzz

>open diff
So? Same with the 124.

>can't refute my point
>calls it bait
I win again

Why are all these namefaggots and tripfaggots flinging shit at each other? The whole point of anonymous imageboard is so that I dont have to recognize you autistic fucks

I can definitely agree on emissions, even safety. Kinda miss sketchy light cars like the festiva, mr2, and the older Hyundais. Apparently alot of design is also dictated by safety standards too. DD a 02 accent. I dont expect to live if im in a crash, and you know what? Im ok with that.

Assmad gm fangirl spotted

>Fiat does not offer a closed diff or sporty tires unless you get an overpriced abarth

full keke'd

cnet.com/roadshow/news/2017-fiat-124-does-the-world-need-a-miata-in-drag-cnet-on-cars-ep-97/

>Fiat 124: miata on a drag
>on a drag

KEKKKKK Fiatcucks confirmed for crossdressers

Yeah, it is.
I miss driving in a low as fuck position. All modern cars seem to have really tall driving positions compared to older beginning of the century cars.
That kinda sucks.

>all these shit tier bants
no wonder you're stuck with shitposting on Veeky Forums

im accualy subie fanboi *hits dank vape*

Rotflmao
t. GM fangirl

t. banter""""""""pro""""""""

Here's a deal, subie boy... Deal with Alphonse and that faggot boyfriend of his and I swear I'll get a GC8 GT to have fun in the hills and share ebin stories with you.
:)

Definitely, the Hyundai is actually kinda low, mainly due to these fucking dangerously thin tyres, but low is low. Also, there is barley any car around you, so it feels pretty open to the road, and gives a good sensation of speed despite it being a sluggish car

y-you mean it?

Yes. I can get a 60k kms spotless one for about 6k or thereabouts.
Been thinking about it, actually. Gas prices will rape my ass tho.

>boyfriend
Corey is busy doing school. How are you going to get rid of him anyways?

The fiata is heavier, they try to make it longer and gave it ugly over hang at the front and back, why the fuck did they give an sohc engine with one of the worst sounding exhaust and to top it off it looks lile shit rather get the miata

Who cares about you and your boyfriend?
I was just making conversation with subie friend about a car I'm interested.
Stop being autistic, ffs.

read the text review on their site, the Miata is SLIGHTLY better in "professional" testing (Likely Randy)

>brings something up
>no! don't talk about
You sure are stupid

damn son, n i c e. are you ausfriend?

fuck off cunt

>stop bullying me

Ausfriend? You mean strayan? No.
I'm portuguese.
Looking at this one rn. The one I was looking at before was probably sold.

Interior is really really clean, too.

I did. Randy Pobst agreed in the ND Miata vs Toyobaru comparison that the Miata suffers from severe body roll. The Fiata fixes that with superior suspension tuning that makes the car more predictable and more confidence inspiring to drive.

>Looks pigfat
>10 MPG worse
>Massive lag
>Best aftermarket tune to date makes 10 less horsepower than the best SkyActiv 2.0 tune to date
>Already has a turbo so you can't even turbocharge it to get the power up to something reasonable
Wow, why would anyone ever buy this piece of shit?

>he fears falling over in a miata
Don't ever drive a 2CV

It's been established time and again that the Miata is faster around the track than the Toyobaru despite the ostensibly inferior suspension, because while sway bars increase driver confidence, they reduce ultimate grip. So adding stiff sway bars to make it corner flat like the Toyobaru or Fiata will make it less fun driving on the street where its composure is always calling you a pussy and telling you to go faster, and slower on the track to boot.

>Miata fags mad as shit someone improved the Miata

Lmao enjoy your noodle chassis and absolutely shit tier suspension

Also remind all Miata fans will die of AIDS within the next decade lmao BTFO.

>sway bars increase driver confidence, they reduce ultimate grip

Miata fags are this desperate to defend their shitty suspension LMAO

>Mitsubishi is more reliable than Fiat.
You can't fucking make this shit up.

look at this triggered slowbaru cuckhold top kek

sway bars help when used with other upgraded parts
the Toyobaru only was set up that way for DORIFTO

>F-f-f-f-fiat!

>Miata manufactures the 124 Spider

So you dumb AID carriers finally admit Mazda is shit LMAO

Will LBGT ever recover???

>22psi
gee I wonder why

>Toyobaru
L I T E R A L L Y slower than a Minivan

>doesnt own the car he shitposts about 24/7

Literal cuckold. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

Poorfags are so fucking dumb lmao.

Shilling isn't allowed

reminder Toyota can't win LeMans

can u not????

>LITERALLY a cuck with buyers remorse

HOLY KEKKKK

some KEK actually bought a scion and got LITERALLY triggered into full buyers remorse

top fucking kek

enjoy ur cuckbox that is slower than a miata