Why do recent generation not care about cars anymore?

Not to mention
>CARS ARE EVIL
>CARS ARE BAD
>CARS ARE OPPRESSIVE
It's a really shit time to be a poor young adult that's into cars.

I'm glad I took those classes in High School a few years back, some kid in those classes exposed me to Roadkill. I learned to rebuild an engine and a rear diff. I remember the autobody class had a stripped Porsche 914 shell, wonder if it was ever put back together.
The shitty part was most of the cars in the shop were FWD.

I think my old high school brought back auto shop recently. My mom said she was able to take drivers ed, drivers training, and get her license for free at the school.

Since car manufacturers seem so confused as why more kids aren't buying cars they should lobby for a small tax on new cars to specifically fund drivers ed in schools.

The problem with that is most people who work vocational jobs are gonna have a hard time affording a really quick car without making some sort of sacrifice somewhere else in the budget. I understand this isn't true all the time, but I think we can agree that if we compare MBA degrees to ac repairmen, the MBA degrees will much more often be driving what they want.

I would've loved to take autobody. Class of 13 here and it wasnt offered. Im pretty salty because I dont have an uncle or a dad or a friend to do car stuff with and learning is tougher because of it.

My parents actually paid an independent firm for me to take drivers ed because we didn't have that either. I think it was good parenting on their part.

>this nigga was in high school during the time of roadkill
fuck I feel old

>roadkill was almost 4 years ago

meanwhile more people than ever are working two jobs and still going to college full time. thanks for fucking the economy, dumb fuck

There's little concept of ownership anymore.

Everything is seen as a disposable appliance. Especially cars. Actual car ownership is getting so rare these days, everyone is leasing, and that's the people who actually drive. You don't know how few young people even get their license anymore, mainly in the coastal cities.

Back to leasing, it's bad. People see it as something they'll be rid of in two or three years, so it'll be warranted the whole time. They don't care about knowledge. By the time their neglect starts to take it's toll on the vehicle, it'll be time to trade it in for a newer lease.

It really is alarming, how people don't expect to own things anymore, and thus lack the drive or knowledge to care for it. Planned obsolescence is also largely ignored by the same group thanks to it.

Thank companies like Ford who move production out of country and leave only minimum wage and highly skilled jobs in house.

There are no more "everyman" jobs anymore thanks to this.

Fuck off, don't tar everyone with the same brush.

t. Studying a STEM subject and doing 10-hour shifts in a car factory

protip

previous generations didnt give much a fuck about them either

its pretty stupid to care about them anyway

t. libcuck

Keep raising taxes on corporations and they'll move to low tax countries. That's why JCI merged with Tyco (in Ireland, in "socialist" Europe).

give 1 reason why you should care about a car

you fucking cant

(You)

and of course

generic meme response since you cant think of a single good reason

because without a car in the majority of america you are unemployable, so it is good idea to care about your car otherwise you will be a nocar nojob neet.

(You)(2)

you expose why America is a fail of a country

reliance on owning a car that you cant get without a job that you cant get without a car is grade a retarded even though thats only a fact in the rural shitholes

even then there are much cheaper alternatives like mopeds motorcycles and bikes

and no its stupid to care about its a disposable appliance you use up and throw away when its served its purpose

People are just dumber in general. It still baffles me how I know people who live on their fucking computers 24/7 and still don't know to use their computer for anything other than Facebook and video games.

>america is a failed country
sure. theres a million metrics that show america as a success, and a million that show it as a fuckup.

at the end of the day, a fact is a fact. you can ride the bus some places, but generally it takes 2 hours to get places that it would take 10 minutes by car to get to.

and discounting rural america is stupid, that's where the raw materials and agriculture that our society depends on comes from, as well as lots of technical innovation.

and drag cars.

>retarded even though thats only a fact in the rural shitholes

Live in a US city of just under 700,000 people
Live 4 blocks from the downtown square
Impossible to get to work without a car
Impossible to get groceries without a car

>cheaper alternatives like mopeds motorcycles and bikes
Said the idiot that's never seen a city get dumped with 4 FEET of snow
So, there's several feet of snow on the ground and GIANT HUGE plow trucks are everywhere... and you're alternative is a MOPED?
That's suicidal, man.

Because caring about shitboxes takes time away from vidya and shitposting

>cheaper alternatives like mopeds motorcycles and bikes

Right, because I'm totally going to ride a moped 25 miles one way to work at 6 in the morning in 0 degree weather. Totally. And I'm absolutely thrilled at the idea of riding a motorcycle home through 8 inches of snow. Nothing could possibly go wrong. Ever.

My auto class was so fucked that my two years of experience lurking Veeky Forums led me to teaching the fucking class myself because the teacher was genuinely mentally disabled. Everyone took the class just to learn how to change oil and the teacher attempted to teach us how to blue print a 5.3 LS and got pissed off when no one knew what we were doing because all the book work was based off of a Gen II smallblock and he offered zero help. We finally drove the guy to retirement after he started multiple fires, started to lower a car on a 2 post while there were students under it, and hundreds of other things.

>tfw dealing with pic related

Trades are shilled really hard at my school, and I can already see the Electrician field being over saturated with apprentices, with Welding being the next trade that everyone want's to get into, myself included after I realized /g/ lied to me about being a Sys Admin.

Last year in the student parking lot there was a Z32 300ZX, a Sentra SE-R Spec V, two SRT-4's, a FJ62 Landcruiser, and a WRX Hatch, this year the most interesting thing is a teachers 2002 Firebird Formula 4AT, and a different teachers Ducati Scrambler. There's a lot of students in my year that are interested in motorcycles, half of them dirt bikes and half street bikes and I see a shitload of car related t-shirts(freshman's with Hoonigan shirts who don't know who Ken Block is, some autstic kid with a fucking Chevy Volt shirt, some other autist with a "Still plays with cars" shirt) and know of probably 20 different people that are into cars. However I almost exclusively take shop classes and don't really talk to anyone who doesn't do the same. I even know a girl who despite never going outside thinks cars are cool and doesn't hate her dad. The biggest problem is that owning a car is simply too much money, and no one want's to hire someone still in Highschool around here.

This is all in Southern Ontario east of Toronto.

yeah

getting cucked by the auto industry is a huge fail

simple

dont live in horribly designed cites

its your own fault

t. nu-male

I still havent got a single reason to care about cars

Shit ain't made like it used to be. Less soul, more performance, harder to work on, too many electronics.

Cars are more and more limiting in terms of home maintenance. I'm 38 now, and I've lived through a massive evolution in automotive technology.

You also haven't given a single reason to reply to you seriously

because you cant defend cars

thats the only reason you havent replied seriously

I live in a great city with decent public transport, and I would have to leave at 5AM just to get to my job by 7, yet if I leave in my car/unreliable truck I can leave at 6:40. that is why I and most normies care about their cars, because it matters about being able to get places.

they dont care about their cars

its just an appliance

the only time they care is when it isnt working properly after years of neglect

there is literally no reason to care about cars so most people dont

and wow an extra hour and some minutes so much worth the effort into a car

Taxes don't mean shit for production, it's the labor price. Pay an american man $25/hr or a mexican $4/hr? They aren't paying less taxes on their profits by PRODUCING out of country

>you expose why America is a fail of a country
>DURRRRRRRRRR HURRRRRRRRHURHRUHRURUHRURHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>U DONT LIV IN BIG SHITTY LIKE ME U FAIL

I don't know about the rest of the country, but auto shop class is still alive and well in most Massachusetts high schools. I just disassembled a Mazda B6 engine and I'm in the process of rebuilding it. The only negative experience I had was when some stoner nearly killed me when he let go of the jack while I was putting jackstands under a Chevy Beretta.

I have my licence and can drive stick but I can't afford a car because of the insurance cost. The few people that are into cars in my school are the "JDM tyte" kind or are into muscle cars. Most kids drive 90s/00s sedans or SUVs but there are ricers and BMW/Mustang owners.

There are probably around fourty kids who value car ownership in my school of two-thousand. Car enthusiasts are a dying breed. Most of the new generation still wants to be spoon-fed.

t. junior in high school

>so much worth the effort of a car
at my local honda dealership they have a lease deal that is 89$ a month for a bargain basement model civic.

to ride public transport in my area, a day pass costs 5.20 per day and a month pass is $99 per month.

say a person makes $10 an hour, and by riding the bus they spend an extra 2 hours and 40 minutes a day, or 2.66 hours, every day the economic cost of riding the bus $26.60. Multiply that by the 20 days you /have/ to ride the bus for work, that is $532 worth of lost time.

in what way is public transport a more viable option?

and you need to stop hanging out with people that don't take care of their things. none of my friends or coworkers except one or two are car people, yet all of them maintain their vehicle because it is a very important part of life.

>dont live in horribly designed cites

Is this meant to mean "places where it gets below freezing"?

I mean, I could totally bike the 3 miles to the bus stop for 5 A.M. so I could get to the stop that's only 2 miles away from work in time to be just marginally late for work every day, but I'm having trouble figuring out how I'd carry my hand tools, tool belt, drill, impact, saw and lunch with me there....

I had an excellent auto shop experience in california, but then again I lived in a more well off suburb.

ok the car is still more expensive since you still have to add insurance and shit not to mention maintenance and the like

youre not losing time when youre not on the clock either

so wow
you spend more money for no reason

perhaps look into a 21st century job Cletus

so still

there hasnt been a single reason itt to why people should care about cars past being appliances

Buying a new car is fucking expensive to the point that 72 month financing is becoming the norm.

Don't even get me started on the cost of new trucks and SUVs

I'll give you a reason: because I fucking like them. I'm interested in how they work, what they can and can't do. You may not care, but that doesn't mean no one cares.

Just let people be into what they're into, is that so fucking hard?

>maintenance
>a lease
learn some things about the world. also clearly you have no idea what opportunity costs are.

we get it, you don't like cars. that's ok. but to think that the whole world views them as commodity items is absurd. the car is the second most expensive, and occasionally the most expensive thing most people will ever own. For that reason, all but the lowest percentile takes care of the vehicle because it is one of the most important parts of most people's lives.

>I can already see the Electrician field being over saturated with apprentices, with Welding being the next trade that everyone want's to get into

I don't know what it's like across the border, but in my state, it takes 4 years to get a Journeyman's license for electrical (means you can work on outlets and other simple stuff without supervision) and 6 years to get a Masters license (means you can do everything without supervision). I've met a lot of apprentices (I'm an apprentice myself), but there really aren't many master electricians around. If you can stick it out for that long and don't mind lifting heavy things, and getting electrocuted every so often, you can make pretty good money in the electrical field.

On the up side, it'd be pretty difficult to build a robot that can wire up a ware house, so you'd probably never get replaced by automation as an electrician. Also, don't know if it's the same over the border, but if you have a license here and get laid off, the state department of labor will just give you a new job if you try to apply for unemployment. There's always work for licensed electricians somewhere.

A friend of mine is actually a welder as it happens. He took a 6 month course that cost $20k, worked for a bridge building company in a neighboring state for almost a year, couldn't stand the night shift, now he's back in state and making something like $17/hour as a TIG welder building ovens in a factory. His job is probably easier than mine, and pays better at the moment, but if they ever get an engineer and a loan at that factory, he could be out on his ass once the robots come in.

you people care much more that others dont share your interest than I care about what you like

so cucked it hurts

you project youre own views on the world and thats just not how it is

You came to a car-centric board to shitpost about how there's no logical reason to care about cars, clearly you care enough.

I would be more impressed if you made an explicit argument against my statement than just
>so cucked it hurts

>perhaps look into a 21st century job Cletus

I'll get an office job once you get off the grid. How's that for a deal?

while I don't want a manual labor job, and he probably doesn't want a manual labor job, if we have no one to do them, then how will we have new buildings and people to fix our sinks and shit.

Veeky Forums is my home board dipshit

there isnt a logical reason so I asked a question that gets nothing but hostility

anything I say is going to be a variation of whats already been said

no one cares about cars outside of them being an appliance that does what its supposed to do

its like a phone a pc or anything just about

the average person isnt interested past that point

op seems to think everyone was building hot rods and shit back in the day

Why are you people replying to this autist

>blue printing a LS
What the fuck it's not a draftsman class. Also that assfuck should've gave you guys ziplocks and tape to label shit. My shop teacher would flip his shit if he saw something like that.

Similar, if you were here in Alberta you'd expect some RHD's and cunts wearing takata backpacks at the technical college

That RX300 looks almost brand new, did a Toyota dealer donate cars to your class? Our cars were always donated by teachers after they used them for 15-20 years. The newest car we have is fourteen years old unless you count the cars teachers bring in for us to fix. I live in a lower-income city but I still enjoy auto shop.

no that was my car. we had a bunch of random old beaters donated to the class that kids bought and the teacher sold to everyone or we scrapped them. it was a fun time.

and I beg to differ. even if they don't care to know about the head CFM flow, they care about badge and whether it is comfy or not. that's good enough.

also it looked better when I replaced the headlights with some new ones with new lenses. hard to believe it had 170k on it at the time.

>lol muh generations
>muh ageism
>hurrr im a piece of shit better just keep going with the age meme
boomers are the only ones who take classics that they slaved for years to get and they end up as worthless lawn ornaments because no "true car enthusiast" (read: not an old fuck like them) was interested in buying it

This is the real reason

That's the magic of non-salted roads. Any car here with 170k has rusted rocker panels and peeling clearcoat. I'll have to fly over to he west coast and bring back a car some time.

*the

if you buy a car that has not passed smog, and you don't have smog testing in your state you can buy shit stupid cheap.

Cars have been traditionally a man thing.

Most kids nowadays grow up without fathers, and thus have no one to teach them about cars. Anything seen as manly is demonized in todays world, test levels are at record lows and when you combine that with the fact that kids today are often bought cars instead of working for them, they lack a love of cars.

It's simple, women ruined everything.

Cars are expensive. It's a simple matter of economy. A smartphone does not cost nearly as much as a car. Kids nowadays want something economic, safe, and reliable that will take them to work/class/home without too much fuss. There is not nearly as much money to go around (especially when it's all hoarded by a class that refuses to participate in the economy, but let's leave the 1% ranting for some other time) so a dollar has to be stretched.

Additionally, the people who are into cars tend to be more conservative types.

The people you see lifting old trucks, building mustangs, restoring old Datsuns and Corvettes are seen as "redneck hicks" by the standards of the majority.

>Don't live in horribly designed cities
this post is so Californian it hurts, fuck off millennial.

Anyone blue collar is seen as a bad thing.

Working with your hands is looked down on. As our country starves for tradesmen and various blue collar work, the young generation is told to go to college, get a desk job or be seen as a failure. Why build a car yourself when you hate the people who change your oil?

Feels good to be a young dude going into trades, so many fucking jobs out there

you should, I went to law school and ended up getting a decent job but sometimes I hate what I do. People with degrees in art history or women's studies have no right to look down on others that actually do work for a living.

I make decent money (20/hr) doing IT work. Never went to college. I want to pick up welding once I get some spare time though.

>welding
Good job, awful career
unless you want to be crippled and die early

I'm informed that it's harder to work on modern cars because of all the hi-tech computerization. So the days of fixing one's own car are gone, never to return.

Agree with the other comments about mechanical work being looked down on, though many not agreeing with the reasoning.

>The people you see lifting old trucks, building mustangs, restoring old Datsuns and Corvettes are seen as "redneck hicks" by the standards of the majority.
well some of us are; my 240Z is sitting on my driveway getting prepped for paint: that's pretty redneck if you ask me.

Cant afford anything but 20yo rusted shitbox with 60hp at the price of PS4 and then I wont have cash for repairs.
Where I live, average Joe just cant afford anything that isnt basic expenses.
Unless I become really successful I will never be able to afford a good car.

At this point every car reveal I see is pretty abstract, its one of those things that exist outside my reach and as such there is no even point in looking in its direction.
Those things do not exist in my world, you know, console at launch for full price, good tv that isnt native 50hz pixelated mess, any kind of audio equipment or good clothes.
Everything I will ever be able to afford is noname things or console at the end of its lifecycle, cant even afford ps4 because it wont work with my 21' crt.
Good car is one of those things that just dont exist for me and most likely never will and my PC is 8 years old bottom level box where low energy requirements is the only reason why it lived for so long probably.

you sound salty as fuck mate.

>new law
>iq needs to be verified average or above in order to get a full license
>if iq is below average then you get a special sticker on the back of your car to let other people know you're a retard
someone get trump on the phone we need this one

Factor in the cost of shipping and it's no different. It's all taxes. Do you think hedge funds are moving to Puerto Rico so they can pay spics $2/hour to do financial analysis for them? No they are moving for 0% capital gains tax.

So basically its the jew's fault.

Found the salty europoor that cant afford a .9L diesel shitbox.

>last winter
>buy 80s stationwagon
>normie friend of mine berates me for it
>"it's so old and looks like crap, it's missing paint. You're stupid"
>car only had 43K on it
>I paid $1,200 for it
>Was mechanically flawless
>she proceeds to drive off in her financed Spark that cost $10,000 and had 58K on it
>mfw

>all those unlabelled, unsorted bolts
fucking triggered

As a disgusting millenial I regret to inform Veeky Forums that 99.5% of our generation does NOT give a single fuck about cars, trucks, jeeps, etc. etc.

There's still hope. I managed to talk about cars around one of my normie friends to get him interested. Now his dream car is an FC and desperately wants a manual. His fiancee isn't too happy with me

this
>currently less than a year away from finishing my auto mechanician apprenticeship
>really fucking good at both the mechanical and electrical aspects
>made a bunch of connections in work placements internally and externally over the past 3 years
>already been told by a senior manager at Williams F1 that I should get in touch with him once I'm finished here
There are so many jobs available in manufacturing and associated supply chains here in th UK right now that it's hard to believe people aren't falling over themselves to get in on it. I read in the news every day about people struggling for work, and my friends are just about finishing uni with nowhere to go and tens of thousands of pounds in debt. Meanwhile, I love my job, work with cars all day, have no debts at all and will move into a £31k (plus 11-23% extra in shift allowances) minimum job next September, and have opportunities everywhere.

I mean, I understand that not everybody wants to enter the manufacturing industry, and it must suck if the job market you're actually passionate about is already saturated, but if it's obvious that there are jobs available somewhere else, you suck it up and take what you get until something better comes along.

How young is that iPhone owner?
I'm only 19 but the first car I can remember my parents having was a Ford Mondeo and it had a tape player.

Even in 2003 when my parents sold their Mondeo and both got brand new cars, one of them still had a tape player

I'm in the UK and they were apparently going to bring something like that to my school and it would be the first school in the county to have it

But like usual, they didn't have the money to do it and what money they did have was just used on another computer lab

You guys are missing the point. Leasing, considering cars disposable, ignorance and stupidity are creating a huge pool of quality used cars while at the same time reducing competition among enthusiasts. You're living in a golden age where the things you value are treated as disposable and useless. Where there are as many sheep driven leased cars as flogged ones, where something like a water pump us seen as a catastrophic failure and yet everything is more reliable than ever.

Don't be mad people don't get it, be happy they're fueling a gigantic pool of used cars and parts for you, the only ones who cares.

>boomer, the thread

>get a 21st century job Cletus

>horribly designed cities (because it snows)

I mean the bait isn't good but they are taking it I guess 6/10.

Also cars are fun. Don't be an idiot.

Don't you have a housing market to ruin, grampa?