Do you beleive empathy is a valuable trait for an individual?

Do you beleive empathy is a valuable trait for an individual?
Or is it evolutionary baggage, a leftover from the communal lifestyle of our ancestors, and any self-respecting individualist should consciously do away with it?

We would need to do away with all emotions not just empathy. Otherwise we'd be on a fast track to self-extinction. Empathy is pretty much the one emotion we have that ensures we remain cooperative and cohesive.

>We
>we'd
>We Have
>We Remain
Who the fuck is this "We" you're talking about? Cause I'm not a part of it

You're not a human? You need to be to post here. Mods!

Fucking empathy.
Im now feeling sorry for you.

Empathy keeps us from falling into complete anarchy. If nobody cares what's the point? Also without empathy there wouldn't be many mothers putting up with infants

I'm speaking purely on an indivdual level. I'm not suggesting the whole species forget empayhy, only I personally

Well from my perspective, the less psychopaths there are the better off I am.

So if we're going down that route, the answer is still 'no'. Now go be a faggot somewhere else.

An individual without empathy within a group of people with empathy has an advantage.

A group without empathy is fucked.

Basically people without empathy prey on a social behavior that's beneficial for the group, and use it to further their personal goals. It falls apart when everyone else abandons the group as well.

>evolutionary baggage

Evolutionary theory around social animals is a lot more complicated than survival of the fittest. Read up on the kin selection / group selection debate. Humans as self interest maximizers is a joke of a theory in politics, a stale and beaten theory in economics, and no theory at all in biology.

>He posts on Veeky Forums the way he wants other people to act for his benefit
The only anythingpath here is (you)

I think it has some value to individuals that possess it. Forming emotional bonds with others has practical applications like allowing you to attain social rank and solicit free assistance from others. Though I hear sociopaths are good at faking bonds to get that stuff.

They can't get the satisfaction that comes with genuine emotional connections with other people, though, being able to actually care about other people and feel camaraderie and whatnot.
It's debatable whether that's worth the hassle that comes with caring about others though, the mental pain it can cause, the way it makes you unable to fuck them over for personal gain without feeling like a massive prick about it, and so on.

I'd say empathy is definitely worth having if you can't fake having it, at least.

Empathy isn't a single concept, there are several kinds.

Do you mean lack empathy as in can't understand what people are feeling? Because obviously that's a disadvantage.

Lack empathy as in not caring? There's a reason most people with ASPD end up being in and out of prison their whole lives, because they end up with terrible impulse control as a result.

You're not going to end up some super successful CEO if your empathy all disappeared, you'd just end up like almost everyone else with no empathy, on drugs and in government housing.

If you had a chance of ending up a CEO, you'd already be a successful businessman.

>being this edgy
Die

the question itself is proof how todays society is falling apart

>im le individuuuaaaaaal

but when you do something stupid you expect it little shitter
it is not a belief, it is proven and tested it works and its a beneficial thing for survival

Sure is if you want to reproduce.

there are a lot of psychopaths out there to the extent where its normal. Most of them aren't CEO's or prisoners, just typical normies

Then do it and STFU. Starting a thread about it only shows how weak you are.

it is very necessary to maintain a nation. without a sense of belonging, no human feels motivated to work harder than necessary, to care for a child, to have a sense of belonging, to sacrifice, to join his military, etc etc

>Sure is if you want to reproduce.

Meanwhile psychopathy still exists in humans and has a genetic basis, which means there are women who are attracted to and procreate with psychopaths.

We are all one, so yeah empathy is a core value for me, it's a pity that in this individualistic society of our we only se me me me and don't care for eachother if it isn't convenient.

women are psychopaths themselfs so go figure

There is, but people with ASPD can't function normally, they have massive issues forming meaningful relationships. They're more usually drug addicts or dealers, or petty criminals.

Yes, it is a valuable trait.

Next.

Absolutely this. Based user

I don't know, let's find out. How long can you last without anyone's empathy?

No, empathy is the reason we don't need socialism. Ironically, the harder we try to implement socialism the less empathy people have for each other. This is because mandatory altruism leaves little room for genuine (voluntary) altruism.

Real empathy is the way we feel about someone who obviously needs help, yet doesn't ask for it. Neil Peart was right:

>Begging hands and bleeding hearts will
>Only cry out for more

To be clear, what actually leads people like you to question the necessity of empathy in the first place is the very fact that we all live in collectivist societies which are constantly trying to convince us that we "owe them".

We've all been lied to, and led to believe that empathy is feeling sorry for beggars and professional victims.

>Ironically, the harder we try to implement socialism the less empathy people have for each other.
you literally pulled this from your ass. I'm not even a socialist but there's not way you're speaking from a position of knowledge there. Show me a study.

Wait, you want me to show you a "study" that proves the moral foundations of our entire civilization are completely fallacious?

LOL. You sir, are no Tom Sawyer.

Empathy is more self reflection than it is reconciling with the feelings and values of others. It's relative to you first before anyone else. I think you mean sympathy.

Objectivity and compassion are the basis of my morality.

Empathy is a symptom. It is good to understand perspective, and it allows you to know who is being irrational and who isn't.

I'm a pretty emphatic individual. I can emphathize from the most racist neonazi to the craziest SJW.

That doesn't mean I care though.

EMPATHY IS CONTINGENT ON CONSCIOUSNESS, AND IT IS A FEATURE OF IT.

EMPATHY IS NOT ATAVISTIC, BUT NEOTISTIC; THE ACTUAL ATAVISM IS A LACK OF EMPATHY WHICH WAS PREVALENT IN UNCONSCIOUS HUMANS —VIDELICET: NEANDERTHALIDS, AND CROMAGNIDS.

IT IS WITH LATTER HUMANS WHO DEVELOPED CONSCIOUSNESS THAT EMPATHY CAME TO BE A FUNCTION OF THE PSYKHE —ID EST: WITH ARYANS.