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Anti-Uchiha Edition

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Good edition, the Uchiha are scum.

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> TLAnon is getting $474/month
What a guy. I'm glad people have gotten behind him.

>page 9

But also cute

hina ded.

ded cute

I love Tenten.

Too bad she can only love her weapons

Who?

>draw a girl
>call it a boy

Bravo Kishimoto

cant wait for her appeareance on novel adaptations

Itachi never looked much like a girl aside from the nail polish

I like how the opening shows they still have a rivalry

why so mad ten?

tfw i do this to my wifey sometimes

Is there a hidden trick to using Edo Minato's awakening?

Ree Tbh

>Adventure mode in UNS4 is just 2 hours of characters dick sucking Naruto

Fucking hell, that was painful.

Kind of like the manga

The other images associated with this artist are very disturbing.

>Saved Konoha
>United the five great nations
>Appeased the tailed beasts
>Defeated the greatest evils to ever threaten the world
>Handsome
>Tall
>Muscular
>Charming
>Cute

He kinda does deserve it.

I mean, Naruto does save everyone's asses. Repeatedly.

hinata pls

>Defeated the greatest evils to ever threaten the world

But Madara wasn't evil. If Naruto wasn't such a selfish cunt he'd probably understand that not everyone agreed with his stance on 'moving forwards' it was easy for him because he was the chosen one. Normal people probably wouldn't mind the idea of living inside a perfect world.

Not to mention its just awful writing to have everyone constantly say how amazing someone is in literally every conversation.

Narutojesus is literally textbook Gary Stu.

Madara is Chaotic Good because Perfect World is ultimately altruistic as fuck, he didn't need to save anyone if he just wantd world domination and just nuked everything.

Then surely Naruto is Lawful Evil?

>Madara wasn't evil
Please, this is shounen. Madara was as evil as you could get.

Taking away free will is evil according to the established morality of the manga.

But that's only provided people didn't want that. Naruto hated the idea because he was Jesus and was reaching his goal. Normal people, or other ninja might not hate the idea of living in a perfect world.
Naruto is happy because he's basically a God.

And even after everything happens, Naruto is still happy to continue the ninja tradition despite it being responsible for the deaths of millions and the cause of his "Best Friends" downfall. Madara, Obito and Sasuke had a better idea of what 'right' actually was. Naruto would sacrifice anything for his personal dream.

He isn't tho

>But that's only provided people didn't want that.
They didn't.

>Naruto would sacrifice anything for his personal dream.
You mean like his arm?

We have no idea what people wanted. No one knew what Madara's plan actually was until the end. Naruto just had a massive hate boner for anything that stood in his way. Obito and Madara knew that there could only be one solution to years of failure under the current system. Sasuke also understood this. Naruto just wanted to carry on the tradition because it suited him.

He literally is not. A perfect LEM doesn't take away free will, it simply adjusts the deterministic 'seed' so things go right. If you wanted to stay in this world that is exactly what you would see. Those who don't want it lose nothing, those who do gain something.

>they didn't
>they
You interviewed everyone in world to come to this conclusion? Anyone who doesn't want it loses nothing, not even their free will - at moment of actuvation they'd be flung into a LEM that duplicates what they'd want using their own free will. If they wanted to continue fighting and stop madara that is what would happen, if they'd have preferred anything else that is what would happen. IT has no losers.

>but it's not real
It is to them, just as it's real to them ehen they're literally a manga and that's all that matters.
>white zetsu
Is like tearing up the tankoban.

>Madara actually won and everyone is still inside the infinite tsukuyomi. we're just seeing Naruto's dream.

I could believe that seeing as everyone all but literally linked hands and sang Kuyamba

Lawful Neutral

How?

The manga showed people happy to be released from Infinite Tsukuyomi. Sorry. Canon's canon.

as per easydamus.com/lawfulneutral.html ignore the feminine pronouns
A lawful neutral character acts as law, tradition, or a personal code directs her. Order and organization are paramount to her. She may believe in personal order and live by a code or standard, or she may believe in order for all and favor a strong, organized government.

Lawful Good:

A lawful good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act. He combines a commitment to oppose evil with the discipline to fight relentlessly. He tells the truth, keeps his word, helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice. A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished.
>A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished

Not him but the fact that his Lawful personal morality includes saving 'us' (as in, comrades) makes it pretty hard to slot into Evil when he's not willing to sacrifice his comrades for his own interest
Really he's more Stupid Good - he actually, sincerely thinks he's doing the right thing and 'guiding' them onto the right path, he's just retarded in how he does it.
He might even qualify as Lawful Good, because remember that if Hitler geniunely thought he was doing everyone a favor by removing the jews, that makes him Good (esp since the jews are the minority, so in his eyes it'd have been sacrificing the few for thr good of the many)

Wew

It was like that in the manga. The game is just keeping true to the source material.

If Madara wanted to live in a dream world so much why didn't he just go in himself? Same goes for Obito. Why did everyone else have to go with?

The last bit doesn't work.
The DnD alignment chart has quite a few issues. One of the biggest is that it's from the perspective of the character in question and the motives for action. Someone who kills everyone because he geniunely thinks he's helping out by freeing them is STILL good. In this way, Good isn't actually the same as Ethical, nor is LG the Hero archetype, although Lawful is Moral and Chaotic is Amoral.
This applies to that statement too: what exactly constitutes being guilty, and what counts as repentance, what is enough of a punishment?

Because he is Chaotic Good or he'd just have Obito rez Shisui and make himself happy.

because he was manipulated

I couldn't given how bullshit things were even in part 1.

>People are drawn to Naruto

Do they ever fucking explain this? All he does is say that people should never give up. It's hardly the most amazing philosophy in the ninja world. Also it isn't exactly a really respect worthy dream to want to be one of the most powerful people on the planet. The way people react when he says he wants to be Hokage is hilarious. Almost like he's the first kid they've ever met who wants to be the fucking leader.

God I wish they didn't portray him like he shits rainbows and cures cancer.

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Pay attention to the manga. It's not what he says, it's what he does. He doesn't give up even after all the bullshit. He doesn't put himself before others. He always tries to understand people. People are drawn to that sort of person.

But he's just talking bullshit 99% of the time. Nagato and Obito are perfect examples of this.

Things work out for Naruto because he's the chosen one. His life lessons are pure bullshit outside of himself because he's the exception and not the rule.

You're cherrypicking, although Nagato was poorly done. Obito was fine. Naruto just reminded him of his true self.

>Things work out for Naruto because he's the chosen one.

That's wrong though.

> His life lessons are pure bullshit outside of himself because he's the exception and not the rule.

Also wrong.

Not him but Nardo's actions are literally textbook superhero so that is why. His only life lesson is persistance but that's not really, as you said, a big deal and sometimes it just doesn't work no matter how hard you try - see Madara.

Madara didn't cooperate with others; he just used them for his own ends. Surprise surprise, he lost everything when someone showed up who could do it better.

No one can train to become as strong as Naruto

No one born without a unique power will ever achieve one (Outside of pure plot convenience)

No one can actually fulfill any dream at the disadvantage of Naruto because he's basically a God

Naruto's view on life is simply taken for granted and never criticized by anyone other then the generic evil characters (who basically agree with Naruto by the end anyway)

Also yeah, shit only works out for him because of being the chosen one. Neji was correct all along.

Naruto could only do those things because he turned severe disadvantages into strengths.

No, he is right. Obito being reminded of his true self doesn't make sense, there is no such thing as a true self at most what you used to be, and he's been broken - unlike Archer, who is simply bitter about his dream not being what he thought and thusly getting over it because 'it was beautiful even if it was stupid', Obito being reminded of his original dream has nothing to do with turning him because EVERYTHING we've seen out of him points to him geniunely not giving a shit about his dream until the flashbacks, making it come off as an asspull.

>also wrong
It is not; Work Harder doesn't always work. Obviously giving up guarentees failure, but that's obvious - the only reason Naruto not giving up leads him to great success unlike Madara, Rikudo, Lee and Neji is because he is the main character, while his drivel about friendship is senseless in light of Rikudo proving that men don't connect, they sever, and ESPECIALLY in context of the retcons that show naruto was never truly alone.

What disadvantages?

The fact no one liked him for like 9 years?

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YEAH BECAUSE BEING ASHURA IS A DISADVANTAGE

Kisame should have talked less at the hotel in Part One. Naruto would be legless and waiting in Akatsuki HQ to die.

Not relevant because he only lost due to Kaguya, he was WINNING against Sasuke and Naruto, and cooperation means shit when you realize the only people relevant against Madara was Gai, Kakshi, and the two saints.

>Obito being reminded of his original dream has nothing to do with turning him because EVERYTHING we've seen out of him points to him geniunely not giving a shit about his dream until the flashbacks

Says you. Obito clearly was still angry about Rin. He just wanted things to be like how they were when he was a kid wanting to be Hokage and get the girl. Everything else was just putting on a mask.

>It is not; Work Harder doesn't always work.
So you should just give up when things get hard?

I'm not even going to get into this if you can't see what disadvantages he had. This is clearly bad faith participation.

>Nine tailed fox power
>Friends all his life
>Every 'legendary' ninja knows and loves him
>Talknojutsu from like day 1
>Masters 'impossible' Jutsu's in literal hours
>People are "Just naturally drawn" to helping him
>Legions of dick suckers everywhere he goes

It literally is. The spirit of Ashura is of the no good failure who had to rely on others for strength.

Try again, speedreader.

It's entirely relevant. Madara had no one to rely on. Naruto and Sasuke were also beating his ass before Zetsu backstabbed him.

Except not literally. Only thing missing what all the sex he should have been having since he was like fifteen,

Read the manga again as you clearly don't understand it.

Those are?
The fact of the matter is that he doesn't work as hard as neji or lee or even sasuke while in academy, he was a retarded prankster who didn't channel his frustration like neji, and he turned out to be genius tier with Rasengan.

He was angry about Rin but not once was it ever implied he wanted to go back to his dream, on the contrary no Rin meant the dream was worthless to him from what we saw.
>you should just give up
No, but it's an extremely common life lesson and not at all profound. Naruto was heroic and a hero thus he is liked. That's it.

I'm pretty sure Iruka says it should've been impossible for Naruto to learn the clone jutsu to that level in the time her had (which was hours).

>So you should just give up when things get hard?
That isn't the same thing. Working harder won't always show results.
A ninja could train his entire life at peak efficiency and not hit Naruto/Sasuke levels of power because he simply wasn't born with an innate ability to be strong.

Naruto is strong because of WHO he is rather than WHAT he did. Neji was correct.

Ashura? A no good failure? And he fought Indra cleanly? And Rikudo chose him over Indra said to be superior in every way? How does this add up?
Ashura is the spirit of a chosen one.

>no one to rely on
Madara was winning the fight, Zetsu's backstab makes no sense either.

He did work hard. This has been debunked a billion times in this general.

>He was angry about Rin but not once was it ever implied he wanted to go back to his dream, on the contrary no Rin meant the dream was worthless to him from what we saw.

But it's still what he wanted and that was very evident.

>No, but it's an extremely common life lesson and not at all profound. Naruto was heroic and a hero thus he is liked. That's it.

Moving the goalposts, eh? No one was talking about profundity. Naruto is liked because he is likable because he does things that make him likable.

Naruto was unconsciously using the shadow clone trick ever since he made the first clone.

>He subconsciously mastered a jutsu that students struggled with during their exams and not only mastered it but took it to levels beyond normal comprehension.

>I'm pretty sure Iruka says it should've been impossible for Naruto to learn the clone jutsu to that level in the time her had (which was hours).

Find the page. Let's see it.

>A ninja could train his entire life at peak efficiency and not hit Naruto/Sasuke levels of power because he simply wasn't born with an innate ability to be strong.

Reverse causality. Naruto didn't get to be strong because he was always going to be strong. He made himself strong when he was thought to be weak.

>Naruto is strong because of WHO he is rather than WHAT he did. Neji was correct.

Neji's point was that you could easily tell someone's fate. He couldn't. He was wrong, as are you.

Read the manga. Ashura was the failure who only relied on others. Hagoromo picked him not because he was strong, but because he believed in cooperation and love.

>he did work hard
Less so than Lee or Neji, didn't even listen in class, is a fucking genius who could learn SC jutsu when it's a jounin rank and figured out Rasengan in a week, is better than Jiraiya at Sage. Are you telling me this is the born loser?

>still what he wanted
Show me where you see ANYTHING but disdain for his dream. Not the good old days with Rin, the dream - losing Rin was supposed to have wounded him to the point he cared about nothing else but Rin and her death.

>who only relied on others
He canonically fought with Indra evenly or with a slight edge. Hashirama was a failure too you think with his godgenes and wood relesse?

Hagaromo picked a literal failure. Ashura is hence a chosen one.

>reverse casuality
It is valid because he's not trying to prove Naruto isn't strong, he's saying that Naruto has far greater growth than others WHETHER OR NOT they work hard.

Neji's point isn't that it's easy to tell fate, but that there are born winners and born losers. Hyuuga losers are easily spotted because of the seal and family system.

Nah it's my bad, Iruka just says some shit about him creating 1000 perfect clones. Still...basically makes the same point.

>someone is actually arguing Naruto is the hardworking loser
This can't be fucking real

>Less so than Lee or Neji
It is impossible to quantify this.

>Are you telling me this is the born loser?

Yep.

>Show me where you see ANYTHING but disdain for his dream. Not the good old days with Rin, the dream - losing Rin was supposed to have wounded him to the point he cared about nothing else but Rin and her death.

You entirely miss the point. It was supposed to have wounded him to the point where he lost himself, but it didn't. He just put on a mask. He still felt attachment to the world. He still felt himself as Obito, not Tobi or Madara.

>He canonically fought with Indra evenly or with a slight edge. Hashirama was a failure too you think with his godgenes and wood relesse?

Again, you're missing the point. Ashura was weak. Indra was better than him in every way and didn't need anyone else to be strong. Ashura had to rely on others and used cooperation to develop his own strength. He wasn't strong because he was the chosen one. He was the chosen one because he became strong.

>It is valid because he's not trying to prove Naruto isn't strong, he's saying that Naruto has far greater growth than others WHETHER OR NOT they work hard.

See above. It's reverse causality.

Every Hyuuga is a loser desu

Why didn't Konoha take sperm samples from Sasuke the moment he became viable?

>Neji's point isn't that it's easy to tell fate
Yes it was. Naruto's bone to pick when Neji is belittling Hinata is that Neji was just deciding others' fate for them. Neji decided Naruto was a failure and he wasn't because you can't just decide someone's fate from their circumstances.

Not an argument.

Give it a little longer and we'll find out that Madara's sperm was partially infused with Minato's. This will then give the writers an excuse to give Naruto Uchiha powers.

Not an argument.

Boruto's already getting one magic eye with some bullshit tattoo powers thrown in.

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Are you honestly saying that any other ninja could reach Naruto level with just simple hard work?

>Who is that Byakugan from?
He clearly lost his right eye because he has a scar, eyes have been transplanted without scarring in the past, literally just pop them in.

>Is Naruto really dead?
I'm stopping watching if he is.

I'll take this time to remind you that Ashura had no tailed beast or special eyes and was explicitly stated to have not been born with any of the talent that Hagoromo had.

>it is impossible to quantify this
Lee trained until his entire body bled, DAILY. Naruto pulled pranks and slept in class.

>you entirely miss the point
So you can't show where it's implied? That's why it's an asspull, it WASN'T foreshadowed and all signs pointed to Obito geniunely not caring about Hokage anymore, just Rin and the absurdity of her death.

>yep
Explain him being a genius in multiple ways?

>missing the point
He was the chosen one nonetheless and canon shows Ashura was not weaker than Indra.

>reverse casuality
If he is Chosen because he will become strong, that implies that he will become strong by virtue of being chosen, even if being chosen didn't directly cause it.
Being Chosen implies you will become strong by your own words.

Sorry, but this standpoint has been retconned because kishi is a fucking hack

For that matter, why not Naruto too? Konoha could have had Uchiha and Uzumaki babies of doom.

Naruto's BONE, yes, but Neji's overall view was that there are born winners, born losers. Neji couldn't actually tell which was which correctly, but oh man did they exist. Hell, HE FUCKING DIED WHILE HINATA LIVED
MAIN HOUSE FTW

>explicitly
NOPE
He was said to have inherited the sage's body or whatnot as opposed to Indra who got eyes and super chakra.

Nacho is retarded, but it's not like the other characters are really written to be any smarter.
>Learn sealing jutsu and sage mode like Minato
>Sage up, now SC training is available
>After enough training find a tailed beast
>Put in in your gut

Alternatively
>Beborn Uchiha
Kill your loved one
>Replace eyes with some other MS user
>Find Hashi's jizz

EZ PZ

You didn't answer the question.
Could this guy right here beat Naruto in a fight given he's clearly got years of experience under his belt.

How many years should we give him to prepare?

Naruto outstripped Kakashi and Gai and Jiraiya despite all of them being older and actively working for improvement in less than 8 years.

>Lee trained until his entire body bled, DAILY. Naruto pulled pranks and slept in class.

Lee's explicitly a genius of hard work. Looks like he was born in better circumstances than Naruto. :^)

>So you can't show where it's implied? That's why it's an asspull, it WASN'T foreshadowed and all signs pointed to Obito geniunely not caring about Hokage anymore, just Rin and the absurdity of her death.

Reread Chapter 607. Obito still cared, even if he said he didn't.

>Explain him being a genius in multiple ways?

He wasn't a genius. He was just unconventional and worked hard.

>He was the chosen one nonetheless and canon shows Ashura was not weaker than Indra.

Ashura was not weaker, but he was less naturally talented. That's explicitly canon.

>Being Chosen implies you will become strong by your own words.

Wrong. Naruto could only be the chosen one because he lifted himself out of his disadvantages. It's not that the Hokage is acknowledged by everyone, but that the one who is acknowledged by everyone becomes Hokage.

>Naruto's BONE, yes, but Neji's overall view was that there are born winners, born losers
But you're leaving out that Neji's specific point was that you could easily tell who the winners and losers were just by looking at them. He was wrong.

>He was said to have inherited the sage's body
This was said after the fact because Ashura became strong in spite of his lack of talent.

You are explicitly wrong. You lose.