How would you define genius? Is a genius simply someone who has a very high I.Q? Would a person who has an average I...

How would you define genius? Is a genius simply someone who has a very high I.Q? Would a person who has an average I.Q but has breathtakingly original thoughts be considered a genius? Is a genius someone who revolutionises our way of thinking?

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I guess I would define it as having an extremely high IQ. However, that does not mean "geniuses" are intelligent in every day matters or are well-informed in every area. Albert Einstein for example considered himself a socialist while the average 100 IQ redneck would be able to refute every one of his economic/political arguments

>he correct scale for adjusting the hierarchy of intelligences is furnished by the degree in which the mind takes merely individual or approaches universal views of things. The brute recognizes only the individual as such: its comprehension does not extend beyond the limits of the individual. But man reduces the individual to the general; herein lies the exercise of his reason; and the higher his intelligence reaches, the nearer do his general ideas approach the point at which they become universal.

-Arty Schopenhauer

>For him who can understand aright ...the relation between the genius and the normal man may, perhaps, be best expressed as follows: A genius has a double intellect, one for himself and the service of his will; the other for the world, of which he becomes the mirror, in virtue of his purely objective attitude towards it. The work of art or poetry or philosophy produced by the genius is simply the result, or quintessence, of this contemplative attitude, elaborated according to certain technical rules.
The normal man, on the other hand, has only a single intellect, which may be called subjective by contrast with the objective intellect of genius. However acute this subjective intellect may be — and it exists in very various degrees of perfection — it is never on the same level with the double intellect of genius; just as the open chest notes of the human voice, however high, are essentially different from the falsetto notes. These, like the two upper octaves of the flute and the harmonics of the violin, are produced by the column of air dividing itself into two vibrating halves, with a node between them; while the open chest notes of the human voice and the lower octave of the flute are produced by the undivided column of air vibrating as a whole. This illustration may help the reader to understand that specific peculiarity of genius which is unmistakably stamped on the works, and even on the physiognomy, of him who is gifted with it.

I wrote this:
On Earth, strands of protein give rise to living organisms, and on Jupiter, anticyclonic storms give rise to giant red spots. Life is simply a phenomenon like weather; there is no abstract reason for it. Like local weather is shaped by complex weather systems out emotions and thoughts are just as mechanical.

Am I a genius?

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depends, would you also say you are nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor?

The word genius is incredibly abstract and if you really think about it then it's also arbitrary.

What about artistic and sportive genius? Do they have really high IQ or is it something else? How would Mozart fare in mathematics? and Messi in physics?

i would define genius as someone who is able to usher forth a novel concept. Einstein gave us relativity; Kant, the categories. All 'geniuses', by my view (which is pretty blatantly Hegelian tbch) have been people who've offered up new ways to conceive of what were then the pressing intellectual problems of their period in history. With these new concepts, previous dilemmas were dissolved, and thus overcome, propelling philosophy and the sciences forward. Genius is perspective

Wow, such profound and original thoughts. You must be one yourself.

Definitely. I believe Fight Club should be on every philosophy curriculum.

>usher forth a novel concept
That can't be it because in humanities literally every new author is full of such novelties and yet their written works are worth less than toilet paper because toilet paper is actually useful.

For context I'm from Ireland. We did the PSAT when we were in fourth year of secondary school. The counsellor said my results were "borderline genius". I am quite the retard when it comes to social skills and I mispell simple words often(today I spelt surprise as suprise). But god knows I can pick out a store front with the best of them.

usher forth a new concept, the use of which allows for the collapse of theoretical difficulties present within the previous conceptual model*

this obviously pertains to the sciences, though. artistic genius would have to be described in a different way. a definition for genius, generally, is def a hard thing to denote

I have to conclude from the posts so far that genius is a misleading (equivocal if you will) word because we say that Einstein, Mozart and Messi are geniuses, and yet we obviously don't mean the same thing.

I have reasoned that Solipsism is the only rational philosophical position. I am a genius. Nobody will recognise this in my lifetime. In the future, when science has become more precise, beings descended from humanity will be able to view the minds of every living being, past or present. They will conclude that I am the being that has come closest to absolute truth. I will be venerated as a God. If solipsism is true, how then can beings beyond my death exist you may ask. This is a problem I am still working on. I will probably have an answer shortly.

This could literally be from A Confederacy of Dunces.

Hehe, mad because of my superior intellect wagie?

A genius is someone who has achieved great things because of their mighty intellect. If someone were extremely intelligent but achieved nothing of worth history wouldn't remember them as a genius. History probably wouldn't remember them at all.

Think of a list of people you define as geniuses off the top of your head. They've all likely accomplished something great in their life.

A genuis is someone who takes something nobody ever knew and makes it common.

There are special schools for gifted children. Every year tons of high IQ kids go to the university and the market place and what are their names? Meanwhile a drunkard writes a music tune and leaves his mark in history.

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The way I think Michio Kaku described it once:

It a person isolated on an island with his brain manages to simulate most scenarios and survives better - then that's a sign of intelligence.

Same case for a criminal that compared to another person manages to simulate more scenarios in his brain and see how to escape or trick cops.

Society sometimes labels these criminals as low IQ.

yet they excel in some situations.

>even on the physiognomy, of him who is gifted with it

I was curious and looked this up and it's actually true to some extent. People can mostly accurately judge a person's IQ just by their face.

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Think about it. Einstein is a universally accepted genius. He grew a moustache, presumably out of vanity. Geniuses are more similar to the average man than our worldview dictates.

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>capitalism isn't the system elite jews benefit the most from
/pol/ ideology is the most deluded I've yet to see