The earth is approximately 6000 years old and God exists

>It would not make you float above your body and see everything that is happening in the room. Some could even accurately describe what was happening in the next room.
>It would not make someone who has never cared about Jesus, see Jesus in the afterlife

Why wouldn't it? Learn phenomenology first please.

> It would not make someone who has never heard about Jesus see Jesus in the afterlife

1. give an example of that, that can confirm that after it the man identified the figure immediately as jesus
2. it is most likely that the association with Jesus came after he heard of him after the incident, hence refer to 1

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At least you aren't shitting up /twg/

>There's a God, so you have to ignore my very own sacred text and listen to me.
>Yes the text that says most of the population of the world are sons of the devil
>Yes that one
>Have you noticed how most of the population not only aren't bothered but seem to believe themselves?
>I wonder if the lord is really the name of baal but just translated, because the bible says that this title is strangely a name, and truly "the lord" translated is the name of baal, yeah I wonder XD
>So quirky devil worship XD

>All races/ethnicities can be traced back to Noah's 3 sons
>chinese don't exist

>The Aryans first come into historical view about a thousand years before Christ, invading India and threatening Babylonia. Historians of old reference an Aryan chief called Cyaxeres, king of the Medes and Persians. The Medes and Persians seem to have been tribes of one nation, more or less united under the rule of Cyaxeres. Elam (son of Shem) is the ancient name for Persia. Elamites are synonymous with Persians. The Persians are thus descended from both Elam, the son of Shem, and from Madai, the son of Japheth. The Medes and Persians had settled in what is now modern Persia, the Medes in the north, the Persians in the south. The most notable Persians of today are the Iranians. Interestingly, the word Iran is a derivative of Aryan. The Medo-Persian people groups are divided into hundreds of clans, some sedentary and others nomadic. All speak Indo-European languages, and some groups have pronounced Mongoloid physical characteristics and cultural traits, derived from Mongolian invasions and subsequent cultural integration. An example today would be the Uzbeks of Uzbekistan, and remnant groups living in Afghanistan and parts of Central Asia.

How would the Indo-European migration work with biblical anthropology? So Noah's ship landed on top of mount Ararat in Turkey. Thence the sons of Shem went to the Middle East and Cam's to Africa. The Japhetic line would have gone to Europe while some remained in Asia to form the Aryans, further dividing into Medes, Persians, Indias.

Supposedly in a few generations they would have forgotten the religion of Noah (let's call it Noahidism), like the sons of Adam forgot the religion of Adam. They would have divided themselves in asura worshippers and deva worshippers, the former evolving into Zoroastrianism, the later, into Hinduism. Both Zoroastrianism and Hinduism have flood stories.

The Zoroastrian "flood" is actually a winter (Ice Age?), so it's not exactly the same, but the theme of saving two animals from each species is there too.

Zoroastrianism is closer to Noahdism, and has many prefigurations of Christ (perhaps secret teachings from Noah himself? Perhaps Zoroaster was a Noahite prophet, a bona fide God-sent man whose teachings got perverted?). Hinduism on the other hand is downright polytheism, although in the beginning they didn't worship idols. There is mention in the Vedas of a supreme God who resided on top of the waters ("and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters" Gen 1:2), which was later interpreted to be Vishnu/Narayana. In the Vedas, however, Vishnu was clearly one of the devas (or "angels") and not the supreme being.

im an atheist, debate me

Go away you dirty Jew, we all know you are a shill here to make Christianity look bad.

Reminder that Young Earth Creationism is anti-Christian and is an example of judaizing.

Bümp.

Japeth.

The ice caps are a result of the Flood, and do not precede it.

Hence mammoths with tropical fauna in their guts.

Literally believing the bible is Judaizing.

kek

>Asians = Europeans
Kay.

Japeth gave rise to the Asian and Caucasian races.
Ham to the African
Shem to the semites

The Truth is not metaphysically inconsistent.

>Christians believe this

Nevermind that semites are caucasians.

Actually the biblical "table of nations" only mentions the nations that someone living in the middle exist, say a Hebrew scribe exiled in Babylon, would be familiar with, hence why not Amerindians, East Asians.

This is inconsistent with a revelation by an omniscient God, but is perfectly consistent with the (fictitious) work of human hands, namely Hebrew scribes living in Babylon around 600 something BCE.

I'll expand on it for you.

Seven Sons of Japheth (see map below):
1. Javan (Greece, Romans, Romance -- French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese)
2. Magog (Scythians, Slavs, Russians, Bulgarians, Bohemians, Poles, Slovaks, Croatians)
3. Madai (Indians & Iranic: Medes, Persians, Afghans, Kurds)
4. Tubal (South of Black Sea)
5. Tiras (Thracians, Teutons, Germans, Scandinavian, Anglo-Saxon, Jutes)
6. Meshech (Russia)
7. Gomer (Celtic)

Five Sons of Shem
1. Elam (Arabia)
2. Asshur (Assyria)
3. Lud (Lydians)
4. Aram (Aramaic, Armenia, Mesopotamia, Syria)
5. Arphaxad (From which Abraham descended)

Four Sons of Ham
1. Mizraim (Egypt)
2. Cush (Sudan, Ethiopia)
3. Put (Lybia)
4. Canaan (Hivites, Jebusites, Arvadites, Girgashites, Amorites, Arkites, Sinites, Hittites,
Sidonians, Perizzites, Zemarites)

They're not, actually.

The bible contains prophecies about your future that are coming true right before your eyes.

God has already established His omniscience.

But you? Still a fool.

Still no Asians or Amerindians.

>Girgashites
I find this name funny.

Just like the last doomsday prediction that turned out wrong right? The bible prophecized the end of the world to happen withing the lifetime of the apostles. It failed, becoming obvious that it was a fallible work of human hands.

You are the reason Humanities needs to separate from this board

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Unless creationists actually start publishing scientific papers, presenting them to the scientific consensus and try to get somewhere instead of collecting tax money to build a gigantic wooden boat, I don't see a reason to take them serious.

People expanded since then. It's not an exhaustive list, but a list of where the sons of Noah set up camp. So to speak.

You're a fucking idiot, by the way, for not being able to figure that out.

The false predictions of the real events have no effect on the real events.

You know that's literally impossible, yes? That anything that even hints of ID is denied publication and peer review?

Anyone with an organ analogous to a resemblance of a brain sees that the biblical cosmology is a complete fabrication.

Catholics who have learned cunning and deceit (specially self-deceit) at least try to take the metaphoric tangent, but young earth creationists are monkey tier.

>You're a fucking idiot, by the way, for not being able to figure that out.
The irony has not escaped one.

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Figure out that protestant fundamentalists can expand their fanfic universe to somewhat resemble the real world, putting mongoloid and caucasoid in the same group and separating two caucasoid groups in a completely arbitrary fashion? Gee who would have figured that out?

Why does Christianity seem to only appeal to idiot rednecks and recovering meth-addicts?

You have no basis for comparing how God created this universe, and the creation of any other universe.

You have nothing.

Hide and report

Semites are not Caucasians.

Because arrogant idiots like you think you've got life all worked out.

>God exists

I think living with dinosaurs would have a far greater effect on human culture and biology than a couple of dragon myths

Well-adjusted successful people DO have their lives "worked out", as opposed to superstitious yokels and demented cultists.

>not looking up the kalam cosmoloical argument and being a pleb neck beard

Allahu Akbar!
Islam is only religion!
Die, damned atheists!

Why? Living with saber-toothed tigers and mammoths didn't affect much if anything.

Report the stupid thread, do not post in the thread without sage in the options/email field.

Plenty of christians aren't creationists, they're still stupid mind you, but cretinous morons like OP are not the majority.

Yeah, because ID stuff can't stand up to peer review.

Why? Because actual biologists/cosmologists/geologists tear cretinist "arguments" apart quickly and easily.

I'm not sure what the creationist timeline for Dinosaurs is, but you just made me think of something. Where are the cave paintings depicting dinosaurs being hunted?
Anyway, there are massive differences between even a velociraptor and a wolf, let alone a mammoth and a diplodocus. Think about human euphemisms like 'strong as an ox' and 'fierce as a lion'. Shouldn't dinosaurs be the subject of these, rather than the weaker mammals? This isn't even going into ecological and biological issues either. Part of the reason such massive animals could exist was because of the higher oxygen content in the air, and the higher amount of plant life around. How is a sauropod going to find enough food in Mesopotamia, where some biblical scholar can find it and say it has a tail akin to a cedar?

Then who did the Native Americans in North/Central/South America descend from?

The Kalam Cosmological Argument is a good example of terrible apologetics.
Step 1: Make unwarranted assumption that has no evidence for it.
Step 2: Make a claim that has no scientific evidence for it.
Step 3: Say that God did it, because it's not like some non-sentient supernatural entity could not have created the universe.

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I recall an experiment done regarding near death experiences. They found some people who claimed they could do it, had them do it and while the person was 'out', brought a sign into the room and upon the person coming out of the state, asked them what the sign had said, since they claimed to have their consciousness floating above them seeing the room. Not a single one answered correctly.

I'm not going to provide a source because I don't care enough to do so.

There's a Persian mosaic of a dragonish thing that gets pointed to a lot because it's presented alongside a lion and a wolf or something in a similar style, which hopefuls point out as meaning said dragonthing was as normal to them as a lion and a wolf.

are you telling me that a god exists or that your specific view of the christian god exists

carbon dating, the half life of unstable elements, and cosmic background radiation would all like to have a word with you

Your first assumption was that uniformitarianism is correct, second assumption was that those methods actually work.

Protip: Literally everything you said is blatant bullshit with no basis on reality whatsoever.

Die in fire.

There are Persian depctions of griffons.

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That sure doesn't look like an eagle lion.

Why do they not work? It's really basic (relatively) concepts after all.

Something I discovered recently related to evolution: The main story people want us to believe is that 4-6 million years ago, humans didn't exist, and that we had a common ancestor with a chimpanzee. They say that this "wan't a chimp" but that it also "wasn't a human." So that means it would have to have features of both. The problem is, chimpanzees don't have features of both, and humans don't have features of both. If humans and chimps don't have features of both, then how could the common ancestor have features of both? That means either humans evoluved from chimps, or chimps evolved from humans. Obviously since humans are more advanced than chimps, the humans must have "evolved" from chimps. However, if chimps evolted into humans, then how are there still chimps? According to evolution, birds evolved from dinosaurs, therefore there are no dinosaurs left. If humans evolved from chimps, then IT MAKES NOT SENSE FOR THERE TO BE ANY CHIMPS

You are a faggot