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>NEWS & STREAMS
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>tfw no Sheever GF

how did EG beat wings

is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.

>Fly: Yeah, ana said he wanted to cast so we came up here with him
He fucking knew. He knew ana was going to awkward-turtle it and say nothing for the entire series so they came to the house in the morning to save the guy.

Were DC at TI6 a fluke?

the summit 6 is a honeypot

DC haven't been any good since TI though

why is mike playing on peru server

honeypotted them on veno

she'll never even know you exist

No. They finally had a good thing going where their offlaner made stupid amounts of space on the heroes that he was really good at. Misery's drafting was great countering the Ti6 meta.
Then they threw it all away by kicking Moo who was average but had synergy with the team, with the meme-shitter who fitjew didn't want because he couldn't be depended upon.
DC better study NP drafts and playstyles like fucking fiends because they aren't going to be invited to shit after they lose 1st round at Boston, and there's no way people will invite NP over EG for honeypot lans.

exactly
DC isn't going to show their strategies at honeypot LANs

At least NA qualifiers might be entertaining now

>BSJ is the most fun to play with

- ixmike88

Define "fun". Is watching NP, a T2 team who will never win a lan stomping coL and DC over and over again fun?

every time I see one of these I miss LGD.int

why is drow the best waifu?
is it the blue skin?

LGD.int was garbage
the only made it to G-League finals because nobody knew how to deal with the only strategy they knew how to play, retard deathball with chen+luna or whatever. Once they got figured out, they were never remotely relevant again.

What are we watching?

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/our/ guy ixmike

is that drow's bare ass or luna's blue bodysuit
hmmmm...

its neither of those keep guessing

I mean, they made a good name for themselves, everyone mostly.

The only person on that team that is completely MIA when I checked the roster is Brax. Washed up, like the rest, probably.

So many old pros that just quietly retired or didn't make it big. I wonder if it is good for the scene to have only 90 people essentially compete in TI including wildcards when the scene can hold more people.

what mouse do you guys use

what the fuck is wrong with people. I fucking tried my best to explain to this jugg that that we need aegis to push, he ignores me and pushes. Dies and then respawns and does the same fucking thing. This time he gets the entire team killed. Finally he decides he needs aegis so we get it and I tell him we need to choke out the lanes. He ignores me and dives the T3 and gets both of his supports killed stopping our push.

And we just wasted 30mins because my team refused to see that we lost the game.

Blitz and Bulba killed the team with their amazing tactics and strategical insight.

>what mouse do you guys use

Logitech MX510.

The best mouse ever built in the entire world.

I need a cute Dota girlfriend.

i miss my gf d2g

>last gf was when I was 14
>I'm 21 now

me too

>someone says 'pick tank'

why are league players fucking stupid

>pick support
>ally also locks in supports
>now I won't have to solo support
>they hardly buy any wards anyways
>they all end up feeding
>we lose

This happened 4 times in a row. Just pick a fucking carry if you don't want to support.

How do I counter luna+SD anons? They just continue to shit all over me and my team

>yesterday i fapped like 10 times to interacial porn
>no idea why i just couldn't stop
i feel immense shame.

I never got this meme. Where does the idea of needing a 'tank' come from?

League. "Pick tank" is how you know 100% they're a shitter who cant fathom anything other than set roles and set item builds. same people that first pick am every game and then type support me bot

except every pro dota 2 draft involves at least 1 tank

>enemy has lots of damage
>team is squishy
>pick tanky hero that can absorb damage for team
>enemy players are forced to target tank for some reason
>squishy heroes get to live for more than 3 seconds in every fight

pretty simple really

No it doesn't, "tank" is an arbitrary classification in Dota 2, where characters can perform multiple roles a team may requires.

A good example would be someone like Pudge as a tank because he's naturally tanky, that doesn't make him a tank because people can obviously just not fucking target him. So he has his deadly aspect.

Then there's someone like Sven, who becomes incredibly tanky with +20 armor, building strength items which become more efficient with his ultimate while dealing crazy damage thanks to God's Strength.

A 'tank' is a disingenuous term, a hero can tank doesn't make them a tank. Nor does it mean you should pick tank. Yes there's a problem when your team consists of SWM, Lina, CM, Pugna and QoP but "pick tank" isn't the solution to better overall drafting.

>enemy players are forced to target tank for some reason
more like they just blow up the squishy heroes and kite the tank. this isnt league.

explain the popularity of centaur as a carry then

>but "pick tank" isn't the solution to better overall drafting

I disagree.

Tide hunter should be drafted in every game

>gets free tankyness
>free self purge for tanking spells and shit
>can remove enemy damage effectively making your entire team able to tank more hits
>can remove enemy armor making their team less tanky
>KUNNKKKKAAAAAAAAAAA
>great ult

Dota 2

The difference between LoL and Dota for the 'tank' dichotomy isn't even actually about "tanks"

LoL needs a tank because their carry is squishy as fuck and dies in 2 dies but he's built only damage items so okay he'll do that damage.

In Dota carries build items that make them tanky and provide damage or they offset them.

Sven, tanky and damage. Even Pudge has damage and is tanky. Shit like Morphling is really obvious where he can be tanky and deal damage. AGI carries can be tanky too with good armor, like Terrorblade or Slark with Skadi and PL with a Heart. Fucking Anti-Mage is tanky.

Which is also why League doesn't have melee carries because they're huge pussies. Meanwhile Dota 2 carries can BKB and YOLO into a 5-man and try to kill everyone.

cent is a prettty good/fun hero. my point wasn't that tanky heroes are bad, you just dont need a "tank" everygame. thats what bkbs and health/armor items are for.

no

in dota you always need a tank that'll lead the way, get initiated on, take the nukes, etc

because he just runs into towers and most teams cant fight him when he hits that power spike

lol or you just position your team and supports behind him so he doesnt get raped? or you just take rosh and give him aegis? hello?

>tryndamere
>a pussy

nigger please.

HERRO?
always need tank
look at the offlaners people pick
they are tank

wasn't even picked in their worlds or competitive scene in like forever

dark seer
slardar
sk
nyx
beast
bat
void
nightstalker
es
all of these are some of the most played offlaners
they are not tanks
hello?

what is aui doing in that clip on reddit? he's auto'ing an illusion a whole fight?

warlock

which one you dumbass

the one on reddit

buy 2 arcanas this coming December goy!
Merry Christmas!

where do you see two arcanas

you heard it here first
shadowblade echosabre atos juggernaught

What's the 2nd one? That only lists the Monkey King crown shit variations.

JUGGERNAUT!!!!!!! you idiots

atos is baddiffusal

t.someone one builds atos a lot regardless

What if Rod of Atos gave you a targeted 1 second stun? Would it be viable then?

It's not coming this winter.
Valvo is going to delay that shit so that they can milk the profit later on with the chink near year bullshit again.

jugg immortal is next spring

3000 gold for a 1 sec stun is a lot

wait Lulba is DC coach now ?

It has good stats for it's price, the problem is justifying the active which has been shit since forever and is currently outclassed for the heroes it's designed for like OD, Silencer.

Why take a slow on OD when you can build Dragon Lance/Blink Dagger to close the distance? Why stack INT if you aren't OD/Silencer? Otherwise you'd build health and other items are better.

>They finally had a good thing going where their offlaner made stupid amounts of space

Are you retarded ?
They literally had to always give him the safelane or give him a support offlane in order to not feed.

Literally whenever he was solo offlane he feeded firstblood and died at least 5 times until the 10 minute mark.Thats why they were forced to give him more space then w33 or resolution.

please buff
>Visage
>Brewmaster
>Viper


thank you icefrog

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had a game where my highest mmr teammate randomed visage and didnt reroll, then begged someone to swap. he watned rubcik and went 0-12.

>Pushing and Drow is hyper meta.
>Viper is unpicked.
>Visage is unpicked.

These two heroes at least need some buffs or reworks. Both used to be gigastable Drow and/or push dota picks

Fourth level on the orb or Aghaanim for Viper should make his orb into a "spit"

2014 ti ends on july 21
arcana released on november 20

122 days

2015 ti ends august 8
arcana released December 16

130 days

2016 ti ends august 13
if arcana released on fall patch December 12

121 days

nope won't happen. arcana will be released 142-167 days after ti ended

when does our guy start stream?

Aghs Viper - now gives him unobstructed movement and vision.

>Fourth level on the orb or Aghaanim for Viper should make his orb into a "spit"

what did he mean by this?

>Takes 150 days to come up with Arcana that will look like shit anyways.

:thinking:

>wake up
>no BannanaSlammaJamma stream

whats the point of living ?

>feeding first blood in the offlane
Every offlaner feeds fb, shit-for-brains

>They literally had to always give him the safelane or give him a support offlane in order to not feed.
Safelane, yes. But support offlane, no. That's where wings figured out that if they just give shadow or faith_bian a 1v1 lane vs Moo's Timbersaw, they can win the other lanes since Moo always broke even or fell behind in these 1v1 match-ups

The reality is that Moo plays a top-tier Timbersaw but plays at 5k on other offlaners, just like how EE plays a great Mirana but his Invoker/DK/Razor loses games. But that Timbersaw or Beastmaster played to DC's strengths really well, way better than this meme-meander cw or ds which just doesn't fit the draft

it takes less than that

just valve has a month long vacation in between that

His orb is now AoE cone.

why cant visage recall his birds? fucking LD can recall spirit bear but visage cant recall his birds? wtf ?

>Every offlaner feeds fb, shit-for-brains
Tier 1 offlaners don't feed, i don't think i have seen Universe EVER feed firstblood.

Anyways Moo was dogshit who required a lot of space to be useful, but i agree that Moon is worse because of many reasons...

moo was fine...

>Tickets home for christmas are 700$+
Do i sell my boipucci?

I feel like Visage should get a lot more stacks on Gravekeeper's Cloak

His Grave Chill needs scaling attack speed to be cancer. Soul Assumption needs a tiny mana reduction, 170 at level 1 is insane. 150 sure.

Familiars should also be more tanky and reliable, they're way too weak for something that accounts for 50% of the hero like LD. That or give him like a dozen of them and make them weaker so losing one isn't so serious.

>Tier 1 offlaners don't feed, i don't think i have seen Universe EVER feed firstblood.
That's because Universe tends to iron talon until lvl 3 while people like Forev/eleven/ice3/pasha/MC/Bulldog will always try to contest

Reminder that this game is still a mess of code hammered into itself and build upon a complete mesh of instable versions. Every patch that comes out breaks more shit than actually fixes it and every time now since 2014 there has been a 3-4 Hero FOTM trend that keeps cycling to make the game more casual friendly.

Valvo knows for a fact that they can leave the game for broken and dead for months on in that despite all crying, it will still be steam's #1 most played game, since the community is filled with literally shit eater shitlords.

They give zero response, they give zero shits about balance, zero shits about support, zero shits about actual improvement, zero shits about new content and zero shits about anything that isn't jewing kids out of their parent's credit cards.

This is why they can push eccentric and useless, despite really "cool", stuff into the market like the Steam VR, that probably costed both an unimaginable amount of money to produce that still even raw content, and the resources that a company like Valvo would probably never have unless they hadn't jewed over 60 million big ones with DOTA 2 tournaments.

Now just think if all the money that went into the whole VR shit had went allocated into fixing and improving DOTA 2. What kind of game would we have right now?

But instead, we have this, broken, mashed, hammered piece of shit, because yeah, no matter what, YOU SHITSTAINS WILL KEEP EATING VALVO'S SHIT BY THE SPOON AND LOVE IT.

Fucking end your existence, seriously.

beyondthesummit.tv/bts-spanish/
¿¿¿uuhhh dotardss????

valvebro here, just a heads up. We think that you guys should really consider suicide.

We are currently experimenting with new ways to make you spend more money on our game but things aren't really going smoothly as they could be.

A certain someone keeps pushing the motion that we shouldn't delay Sun Wukong and that we should focus our resources on fixing the FPS issues that have been getting worse throughout each patch instead of just putting more Battle Pass Chests for you guys to spend money on.

More Infused Hero sets with excessive particles and incomplete game-breaking cosmetics for the Fall Battle Pass are what's on the table for discussion right now.

What do you guys think?

visage familiars should be orbs that spawn every couple of seconds. when you attack a familiar is created and attacks as well then drops a stun

>Valvo knows for a fact that they can leave the game for broken and dead for months on in that despite all crying,

And they don't, your point?

>allocated into fixing and improving
Valve isn't just for Dota 2 and you're assuming Dota pays for it all, most of their revenue is Steam sales.

>YOU SHITSTAINS WILL KEEP EATING VALVO'S SHIT BY THE SPOON AND LOVE IT.

It's a free game though.

Even then you're not even naming any 'mess of code's. Gamebreaking shit is fixed within 24 hours anything not fixed is extremely rare. If you wanted actual shitty code you could just play League of Legends.

>Gamebreaking shit is fixed within 24 hours anything not fixed is extremely rare
Like orb effects being visible in fog @ Roshan since source 1
Or that auto-d/c bug if you pick your hero in the last 3 seconds as people load their heroes into the game which has been persistent since TI

Unishit is a jungler that goes to defend tower after 5 minutes

He isn't offlaner. He is a betafaggot

you know the game is good when the biggest criticism is the cosmetics are too expensive desu