Can we make a list of obscure military geniuses the mainstream fails to appreciate? I get tired of hearing "muh Caesar" and "muh Napoleon" 24/7. I want to hear about Tran Hung Dao and the 3rd Duke of Alba.
Fuck off Romanfags
Dominic Phillips
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David Wood
good idea of a thread. make more like this.
Justin Green
>Tran
Carson Williams
General Buttnaked. Operation No Living Thing.
Jonathan Taylor
most underapreciatted general imo
en.wikipedia.org
mostly because butthurt, but you gotta appreciate how he takes out two of the world large empires both at the same time
he even btfo big 'Mo once before he converted to islam.
Carson Reed
Pretty sure Ferdie's quite well known
Not really military geniuses but Kissinger and Zhou Enlai were geopolitical geniuses
Camden Miller
>Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov (Russian: Aлeкcáндp Bacи́льeвич Cyвópoв, r Aleksandr Vasil‘evich Suvorov; 24 November [O.S. 13 November] 1729 or 1730 – 18 May [O.S. 6 May] 1800) was a Russian military leader and national hero. He was the Count of Rymnik, Count of the Holy Roman Empire, Prince of Italy, and the last Generalissimo of the Russian Empire. Suvorov is one of the greatest generals in history and is one of the few who never lost a battle, being undefeated in over 60 large battles while frequently having the numerical disadvantage.[1][2]
>Suvorov was always located in the most exposed position on the battlefield, for he wanted to share the same risks and discomforts as his soldiers. He never wore warm clothing during cold winters and always slept on a simple bed of straw. Forming a paternal relationship with his soldiers, he appreciated their courage and endurance and in return Suvorov enjoyed the loyalty, respect and affection of his troops. Suvorov’s guiding principle was to detect the weakest point of an enemy and focus a devastating attack upon that area. He would send forth his units in small groups as they arrived on the battlefield in order to sustain momentum. Suvorov utilized aimed fire instead of repeated barrages from line infantry and applied light infantrymen as skirmishers and sharpshooters. He used a variety of army sizes and types of formations against different foes: squares against the Turks, lines against Poles, and columns against the French.[4]
Angel Fisher
>Suvorov considered Hannibal, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and Napoleon Bonaparte to be the greatest military commanders of all time. His high regard for Napoleon is interesting because he did not live to see the Napoleonic Wars. Suvorov is often compared to Napoleon, whom he was on opposing sides of during the late French Revolutionary Wars and desired to face in battle, but never did so because Napoleon was campaigning in Egypt while Suvorov was campaigning in Italy. Military historians often debate between Suvorov and Napoleon as to who was the more superior commander.[4]
Connor Sanders
His military genius is overshadowed by all the impaling and Dracula stories.
Andrew James
self-reply but we really shouldn't forget Jan Zizka for the Hussite Wars and perhaps Guy of Namur for the Battle of the Golden Spurs
Daniel Jones
Why is it Russians are so overshadowed in history in every art form
In literature, everyone knows about Melville, Carroll and Wilde but nobody knows about Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Pasternak
If you think classical music or 'romantic' classical music, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner, and Tchaikovsky at best for Russians, but not Rachmaninoff or Shostakovich
John Garcia
Two reasons:
>If you don't speak write/speak english, good luck getting your work widespread publication in 2016
>There is a lot of anti-Russian bias for political reasons. An infatuation with Russian artists might draw suspicion in a way that an infatuation with French artists would not
Lucas Watson
Underrated post
Colton Myers
>everyone knows about Melville, Carroll and Wilde but nobody knows about Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Pasternak
?????
russian novelists are widely read, worldwide probably moreso than the english language authors you listed
Aiden Wood
>Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Pasternak
This writers are all well known and very appreciated. It is not strange to find more people know and care about English language writers in an English speaking region
Andrew Bailey
Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich are my personal favorites.
Bentley Brooks
>Shostakovich
Love this guy. Personal favorite symphony: youtube.com
Caleb Foster
Yi Sun-sin was pretty fucking based.
Cooper Hill
>Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich
Christopher Baker
I live in a third world country and Dostoievsky, Tolstoy are extremely famous. Chejov, Pushkin, Navokov are famous too.
Russian writers are often used as an example of how translations arent inherently bad, since almost all westerners who think Crime and Punishment is a masterpiece did not actually read it in Russian.
Hunter James
Wallenstein. He wasn't exactly a tactical genius, but he was excellent on the strategic scale and swung the war heavily in his side's favor every time he took command.
Jordan Martin
Does Subotai count?
Ian Reyes
Absolute mad man, rivaled in his time only by Mansfeld for off the fucking chain antics
Henry Allen
Definitely underrated, people who label Genghis Khan as the ultimate conqueror rarely mention Subotai.
Jonathan Smith
John of Austria is best Spanish admiral
Thomas Young
Parma.
The way he conducted the intervention in France was a masterpiece. Invaded the North, liberated Paris from the heretics' siege, cucked Henri IV into renouncing heresy, and achieved all strategic goals without fighting a single pitched battle in the entire campaign. Simply through tactics, mobility and outmanouvering of enemy armies.
Noah Clark
Good idea, but how do we prove someone is a military genius if he's not well known?