Why your country isn't here, user?

all the things I listed have some degree of relevance, because you can't have a country with so many millionaires if you don't have a strong economy, military, educational and diplomatic system (just look at the countries that top the list)

the more attractive and powerful a country is, the bigger the proportion of millionaires will be because of the business opportunities and the stability of said country

china's millionaires/billionaires can literally lose all their shit in 1 phone call from a well connected individual because of how rampant corruption is and how broken the system is

if you rent an apartment in London that you spend several months of the year in but are a qatari/emirati national with no uk passport or uk nationality then I don't know why you'd be counted as a british millionaire.

Hmm thats weird, the Netherlands has probably has above 100k dollar millionaires. I'm not sure why it isn't on the list.
I also expected a lot more northern europian countries on that list.
Can someone explain.

Canada, because those stats are nominal, not per capita. What a stupid thread.

>income per capita=millionaires per capita

source here

time.com/money/4078544/countries-with-most-millionaires/

It's time, but at least it's sourced

Northern european countries have extremely high standard of living because of high wages, but as a result the middle class is much larger and "outliers" (millionaires/billionaires AND extremely poor people) are a minority

also the population is much smaller (less than 10m for each of those countries, while UK FR is over 60m , usa 350m )

it should be changed by a purchasing power parity , otherwise it isnt legitimate

How come Switzerland is not on this shit with 10% of adults being millionaires

>Europe's 2nd largest economy
3rd
>World's fifth super power
Back in 1900s
>One of the oldest countries in Europe and in the world
I'll give you that
>#1 Tourism destination
Might be relevant?
>Leading country in Nuclear and transportation technology
Nuclear sure, transport fuck no, all your logistics are done by either Poles or Lithuanians
>Best military record in Humanity's history
I keked, especially how you handled Rhineland
>Probably the 2nd country with the most old money families
That might be important but is highly questionable
>Had one of the leading colonial empires during the 20th century
Had is the key word here
>Permanent seat at the security council
Jacks shit to business owners
>One of the best militaries in the world, everyone is buying our planes, boats and helicopters
That doesnt make more more people rich, only some richer
>2nd largest diplomatic network in the world after the USA
God no c'mon man.
>2nd largest school system in the world after the USA
There is literally nothing expect a few business schools in Paris that are good
>One of the best healthcare systems in the world
Its okay at best
>third most "fertile" country in Europe after Iceland and Ireland
This is true
>one of the most elitist school systems in the world = the elite is continually renewed (look up ENA, Prépas, Grandes écoles)
I am sorry this elitist school system produces retard after retard.

Yes i am surprised

you clearly have no Idea what you're talking about.

Please educate yourself with a 3s google search about France's military record, ALSTOM, the AEFE and the number of countries around the world that host French schools (protip : it's almost all the countries on Earth, save a few shitholes like NK and Somalia)

also
>healthcare is "okay" at best
pretty funny coming from an american
99% of the world would kill to have an healthcare system as good as ours. The only countries that come ahead are scandinavian/northern europe countries

be honest, have you ever visited France or left the USA at all ?

Well, then why is Mexico on top of Russia and China?

>some degree of relevance
Flimsy Argument: Terrain, Climate, and presence of a diversified media could all be argued to be contributory factors, in fact anything could... you've just scattershotted a bunch of information in the hope that I can't see the forest for the trees.
> if you don't have a strong economy, military, educational and diplomatic system (just look at the countries that top the list)
Taiwan, Singapore, and Hong Kong don't fulfill a lot of those criteria.
>the more attractive and powerful a country is, the bigger the proportion of millionaires will be because of the business opportunities and the stability of said country
Not an explanation. Attractive to whom? China is arguably the second most powerful country on earth and yet only ranks 6th. Russia even lower. Yes they are former Communist Countries and thus don't have a ingrained capitalist culture but that invalidates "power" as being correlative to millionaires per capita.
As I understand it there are two factors that are particularly conducive to a high density of millionaires.
>A massive megalopolis (Paris is one of the world's largest cities) -- there is something about super cities that attracts millionaires, I suppose it's the networking effect
>Social Mobility: this works in two opposing ways, either you have a society with great wealth distribution inequality, meaning that the bell curve is shallower in the middle and fatter at the top and bottom than average; or conversely you have a society with ease of social mobility which allows people from poorer backgrounds to make their own fortunes without "taking away" the net-worth of the established elites. Instead their disruptive enterprising grows the economy in general

I can't comment on the second factor. I don't know.
Long dead colonial empires, military might, and presence of nuclear weapons etc. are all state attributes anyway

Good comment, I appreciate you taking the time to answer

I have difficulty properly explaining my ideas in english as it is not my first language. I have no doubt that the asian countries you mentioned will, in the future, catch up and maybe surpass "Old" powers like France and UK. My point was that at the moment, France is one of the most attractive countries on earth for foreign investments, and that can be explained by a multiple of factors like the one I've mentioned. They might not all be relevent to the presence of millionaires, but they surely explain why every relevant country on earth is massively investing in France : China has bought a shit ton of our real estate and vineyards, Gulf oil monarchies and asian emerging powers have bought real estate, hotels, luxury chains, sport clubs, etc. all over the country, and our technology field is being fueled by a ton of foreign investments which might explain the constant flow of new millionaires in the tech and finance sector. Now that UK is leaving EU, some experts argue that Paris might become the next go to place for foreign financial firms and BB banks that want an anchor in the EU (especially since the PS is 100% not winning the next presidential election, and the next president will almost surely put in place more flexible and favorable regulations for the financial sector)

>I don't know shit but I still post

I'm going to bed, may reply to this thoughtfully tomorrow but you make a good point about foreign investment.

Because it's not per capita

which one is it anyways then?

>Canada
>Money
Pick one

You can add top 5 cities with the most desirable real estate in the world.

Having a parisian flat with hausmannian architecture, moulures, old school hardwood floors is kind of a status symbol amongst the global elite.

There's this thing called hotel particulier and it's basically a separate house built in the 1870s with the classiest old school architecture you can think of and an interior patio. Only nobles associated with Napoleon or extremely wealthy people lived in them
You can only find similar architecture and private hotels in the italian palazzos of florence for example.
And it's not like london or NYC where it's full of brownstones and victorian flats. Hotels particulier are really rare and even though they are less expensive than the best real estate in other cities, not everyone can buy them. There is a tight cartel of a few real estate agencies that will easily refuse to sell one to you if you're not famous enough or whatever.

London and NYC are business cities but central paris is pure playground. Architecturally gorgeous, full of art parties, exclusive fashion designer events, art auctions

bellesdemeures.com/annonces/achat-de-prestige/hotel-particulier/paris-4eme-75/arsenal/113685533.htm?ci=750056&idqfix=1&idtt=8&idtypebien=14&tri=d_dt_crea&bd=li_LienAnn_Bouton

Hahaha tout se fout de la gueule de votre pays de merde en europe, des quon traverse la frontière chez vous on se croirait dans le tier monde, et j'en parle même pas des centaines de milliers de français qui traversent la frontière tous les jours pour brosser nos chiottes, et pourtant gagner plus que des diplômés des meilleurs "grandes écoles" gagneraient en france et vous osez croire qu'en 2016 la france est encore une grande nation...

hey, english

A "millionaire" is literally just above middle class in the bay area nowadays.

You need $800k just to own a fucking house. Most families with 2 working adults here are gonna be north of a million Net.

c'est quoi ce post de frustré ?

Si t'es un trimmard de merde tu le seras partout dans le monde. J'expliquais simplement au gars la raison derrière le haut nombre de millionaires en France. La conjoncture économique et sociale s'y prête parfaitement. Si t'étais un minimum éduqué tu comprendrais que logiquement, plus la fracture riche pauvre est grande et significative plus les inégalités seront marquées et visibles entre la classe ouvrière, la classe moyenne et les riches

Nothing important to see there, just someone wondering why chauvinism still exists in 2016. But he does it very poorly by bickering instead of pointing out facts.

Still, the state of France post-2007 is quite compelling. everything went down the shitter after "super menteur" and the identity crisis of the French citizen.

15.7 million Americans are millionaires? That's a lot. Makes me think I'm gonna make it.

I understand what you're saying about foreign investment, but as we can see from the Nordic Model: strong economies don't necessarily make millionaires.
Because it's about the personal accumulation of wealth.

It's literally like a 1/50,000 chance

And like says it's middle class. My parents could liquidate their assets and be worth well over a million dollars, and let me tell you, I grew up working class as fuck.

>Why your country isn't here, user?

We tax the fuck out of them in Canuckistan so they move to the US or UK.

I'm surprised by France specifically because their high taxes take over half away from you how is it even possible to get ahead?

equality

> 99% of the world would kill to have an healthcare system as good as ours. The only countries that come ahead are scandinavian/northern europe countries

You say this because you're probably young and healthy. Wait until you get older you'll probably end up dying due to your "free" healthcare.

The only reason our healthcare system isn't better is because we have moronic socialists influenced by communists loser like you, who have regulated the economy. We have the AAMA which is run by doctors and lobbies to put restrictions on who can qualify as a doctor and what requirements are needed for healthcare. Pretty much stifles supply so it can raise prices.

If our healthcare market was further deregulated we would see even lower costs. I mean a lot of Canadians and Europeans come here for medical healthcare.

I guess my country's financially illiterate or something, because for millionaires/c we're not on the list (or perhaps it's the currently weak currency). For billionaires/cap we're #11, but that's probably because all of them change citizenship to not get raped by tax.

The US also has the largest population of temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

Source: Veeky Forums

>You say this because you're probably young and healthy. Wait until you get older you'll probably end up dying due to your "free" healthcare.
My grandparents are doing fine, thank you

China ahead of Taiwan and way ahead of HK
India ahead of Brazil
Indonesia ahead of Russia
How the mighty have fallen.

So does Germany.

Real wealth has nothing to do with wage work anyway.

> Wait until you get older you'll probably end up dying due to your "free" healthcare.

My great grandmother is 105 yo and still in very good age for her age. She went into a care home at 98yo because she fell in her house and had to be taken care off, otherwise she would have lived alone for longer

the oldest woman (and human) to have lived was a french lady (Jeanne Calment)

I think our healtchare is doing fine

The big difference is that we don't need to see the doctor as much as americans do, because the average European is much healthier than the average american

You realise that Taiwan and Hong Kong have very small population in comparison to China

In saying that I would be very interested to see millionaires per capita or something similar

I feel like Singapore or Taiwan or Hong Kong would certainly top that list

Honestly I would rather have more well maintained roads and social services which make my country safer and cleaner. I'd rather not have to worry about accidentally walking into some ghetto and getting fucking knifed or shot or robbed increasing the need for militarized police services. Obviously this also requires some regulation and control of immigration which can cause issues in healthy functional societies with good infrastructure.

Tfw my city has the highest
Earning per person i germany because of
This man sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/heilbronn-dieser-mann-ist-so-reich-dass-statistiken-seines-wohnorts-wertlos-sind-1.2705044

What are normal wages in France?
I've heard about nurses working for as little as 1400€ a month.

Here is some copypasta someone wrong during Sanders campaign, you can just substitute "Sanders" with whatever socialist candidates.
>The more I think about it, the more terrifying the Sanders phenomenon becomes. Sanders is running on an unabashedly socialist platform: he is promising the most massive tax raises in the history of the United States.
>He's not talking about taxing the "rich", rather, his tax plan revolves around utterly destroying W2 wages. He is completely blatant about it, to the point of bragging. If you make 100k, Sanders is going to increase the federal taxes you pay by 50%. If you make 200k, you will give more than 50c of every additional dollar you make to the federal government.
>In other words, Sanders' tax plan is a government enforced caste system: either you are already rich today, or you will never make anything of yourself because the government is going to take any money you try to earn above what is "proper" for you to have.

this part again
>In other words, Sanders' tax plan is a government enforced caste system: either you are already rich today, or you will never make anything of yourself because the government is going to take any money you try to earn above what is "proper" for you to have.

Social mobility is far higher in Scandinavia than it is in the USA.

this only accounts for the lucky and/or hardworking ones , the rest might earn around 1000€/m

Europe is a fucking joke ughh wanna move

>China with massive inequality
>1.4 billion people
>only 1.3 millionaires
Chart is wrong

Is this chart from like 2005?

October 2015 apparently.
Can't find the infographic itself, but it seems to of come from this batch of reports:
credit-suisse.com/us/en/about-us/research/research-institute/news-and-videos/articles/news-and-expertise/2015/10/en/global-wealth-in-2015-underlying-trends-remain-positive.html

Your statistic is actually from June 2014
time.com/2852740/china-millionaires/
>Trusting first served Google infobox factoid

In fact you quoted a TIME link, but the page from the chart is also TIME. And there are sources there.
Remember its nominal, and that was on 2014, in one year a lot of millonaries can also move out.
Besides the fact that it is from $1M dollars, could change some things

Owning a house in London makes you a millionaire basically. Often people are asset rich but cash poor. I was the opposite. My old landlord had loads of outgoings and kept complaining to me about cash (I spoke to them about investing a lot) but a £3million house.

>best military record in Humanity's history
conquered in 6 weeks. Kek. fuck off you vichy fuckboi. the only reason you still speak french are because real men landed on the beaches you so easily lost. MURICA

Greedy African warlords and monopoly on oil.

Because wealth is spread better in my country.

>Implying the Soviet Union did not play a major role during WW2 in Europe...

>Tfw when 3rd world mexican
>Tfw when trump just got elected
Ayy Lmao please end my fucking life.