UofT "smash capitalism" "free tuition" protest

youtube.com/watch?v=E0NmHBBODyQ

What did they mean by this?

>It should be free
>Rich people don't do anything, they got rich somehow but they don't do anything
>I think capitalism is rotten

Where did it all go so wrong?

They view education as a citizen's right rather than an (individual's) investment in human capital.

LOL

Skip to 3:05.

This is what Too much socialism does to you.

I love how when he asks for a newspaper she says "$2" then explains it isn't free because she can't afford to get it away for free.

Too classic.

I'm ashamed these people exist in my country though. Worthless parasites that need to be rounded up and shot

This fat pig is disgusting to watch.

Marxism and BLM aside, they have a point - the fees are rising too quickly. In 2007 one year of UoT cost 11k for an engineering program, now its like 15k for the same (or worse) shit.

If you want a country that can compete on world stage, you better be able to give opportunity to bright people from the lower classes to make something out of themselves. And I don't mean those three scholarships/year.
Otherwise we'll be selling oil like Russia, worse actually - they got military, space and nuclear as well.

2c from someone who had a huge loan on an engineering degree, paid it off, has a full time job and a successful side business.

>This fat pig is disgusting to watch.

Dude it's horrifying.

Her speech, her """Logic""", her blatant disregard for her look. Astonishing.

My only though was "This is what happens when you read too much Marx, kids".

>If you want a country that can compete on world stage, you better be able to give opportunity to bright people from the lower classes to make something out of themselves

As for the rest:

I truly do not believe this to be the case, my man. Tuition fees are very reasonable relative to income in Canada, OSAP isn't bad and with all the grants and scholarships you get it's VERY reasonable. It's not "outrageous" at all. As long as you don't major in Black Women's Studies or something I truly don't believe it to be a problem.

On a related note, we're expected to have Free tuition for people whose household income is below $50k/yr in Ontario. How on earth will that work? Is it truly a feasible idea? any thoughts?

What do you expect from univeristy students? This is where they foster and peddle far left ideologies. I can't tell you how many essays I wrote about Marxism and muh exploitation, muh labour theory of value, and muh socially necessary labour time. Of course I don't give a shit about that stuff, but I do it for the grades. The funny thing is I got a degree in economics, where despite socialism being an economic system, you'll be hard pressed to find an economics professor openly advocating socialism. Marxist economists are openly derided as heterodoxtards by the department of economics. Yet in the humanities, philosophy, and sociology departments you'll find self-proclaimed Marxists in abundance. In those courses, which I had to take as electives, you constantly learn and write about Marxism, yet in economics, unless you take an optional history of economics course, you wont spend a single minute on Marx. Unless you go into university already being aware of, and against the far left, you're going to eat that shit up, especially if you're in the humanities, sociology, etc. This is made worse by the fact that many students have to take such courses as electives where they're also exposed to such thought against their will.

>Where did it all go so wrong?

Children rebel. That is a natural thing.

All we need to do is generally ignore them and let them grow older, time will solve their stupidity.

Problems come when malevolent adults exploit their stupidity and use them to make idiotic changes.

>All we need to do is generally ignore them and let them grow older, time will solve their stupidity.

There seems to be a lot of them

What's your jerb?

This is my campus. We have a protest nearly every day, the liberal arts majors have a lot of time on their hands. Just a month ago there was a big shit about free speech and some trannies assaulted people who advocated for it

Anyway I can cash in on this? Like the guy selling the trump t shirts

>There seems to be a lot of them

And there will be more after them who take up the charge of whatever happens to be trendy at the time.

Leave them long enough and they turn into pic related unless their absolute hopeless idiots.

I'm talking about literally kids from towns who have the ability and drive but are stuck there cause the few grand they saved won'd do shit in waterloo/toronto/mcgill. Kids with parents who are working poor. Kids with parents who are poor immigrants. And there are A LOT of those kids. Education, especially for STEM should never be based on ability to pay a shitload of money. And even 10k/year on tuition alone is a shitload. If we don't get the best people in these uni spots, long term - we're fucked.

Not a bad idea, if they made the grades and can't afford to pay - let them go. In four years they'll be paying taxes as workers, in a few more as business owners. Its a positive feedback loop for the economy.

I'm a software engineer. My side business helps people sell their products online.

Sell rape whistles

>I'm talking about literally kids from towns who have the ability and drive but are stuck there cause the few grand they saved won'd do shit in waterloo/toronto/mcgill

Does that truly occur though?

I'd imagine OSAP/scholarships/grants/working whenever possible would afford this...

Nonethless i do agree. I believe we should subsidize things NEEDED for our society.

For example, I think every ~5 years or something we can have analysis of what fields have major gaps in our country, and partially (or on a sliding scale) subsidize those majors for high-achieving students.

Ideas? That sounds like something good in my opinion.

So if in a given time we need more in a certain field we can push them into it by incentivizing it strongly

The people in this vid are retarded.
"Free" education comes at a price and nine times out of ten, that price will be paid by higher income brackets. The problem with this is that, why shouldn't the rich also be eligible for free education? It's essentially a double tax on the rich.

I'm all for affordable higher education, but not before it's reformed first. The cost of actually educating the masses hasn't really gone up since the 60's where someone was able to pay for their schooling by working in the summer months. The price hikes come with increasing administrative costs (which is insane if you honestly believe that the technologies of the 21st century has made it more difficult on university presidents) as well as frankly gambling on sporting teams.\

Reform the process to make it more affordable to all and this would easily get my vote.

Reminder that tuition fees are rising so quickly because of federal """assistance"""

>Nonethless i do agree. I believe we should subsidize things NEEDED for our society.

Why not just leave that to the market? High demand shit = high pay = more people wanting to do it.

Central planning does not work well and it's expensive, also who's going to decide what's needed? You could easily wind up with subsidies of gender studies because they are needed to address the patriarchy if after you set up this system of high idealsit is hijacked by SJW's.

>also who's going to decide what's needed?

The same people who project the job shortages over the next x amount of years?

>You could easily wind up with subsidies of gender studies because they are needed to address the patriarchy if after you set up this system of high idealsit is hijacked by SJW's.

True I suppose, but I'm not very concrete on it the idea would obviously be worked on signficiantly

I'm thinking something like "We need certain engineers because of a significant shortage projected in x amount of years"???
And it would be ONLY for people who excel in their studies and take it seriously. No niggers studying some bs

>The same people who project the job shortages over the next x amount of years?

So this idea hinges on "someone" being able to accurately predict the future?

>And it would be ONLY for people who excel in their studies and take it seriously. No niggers studying some bs

History is awash with commissions and regulatory bodies which were formed with great intentions then turned counter productive once crusaders of change quit bothering to worry about them and the people who had something to gain by controlling them took over and perverted their original intentions.


The simplest solution here is to do nothing and let the market sort it out. Yes in theory your system should create more overall wealth by producing what we need when we need it but I would bet you it would actually do far more harm than good if implemented.

Yeah I guess you're right actually lol

Maybe I'm being too idealistic.

It seemed like a better idea on paper than actually written out

>It seemed like a better idea on paper than actually written out

Like most government programs/subsidies

please stop embarrassing yourself

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I'm a little uninformed on this subject. Are you talking about equalization payments?

There are paths for them. They are just too chickenshit to join the military and too stupid to realize the peace corps would pay their loans back if they volunteered.

>they turn into peter hitchens
He IS a hopeless idiot. He recognises problems but decides he wants to just wait to die while doing nothing but being a defeatist.